Vive 'Pro' Users
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Same for me, just clear vision... There is slight loss of fov due to the adaptor, but the trade off is worth it.. I used the Etsy adapter and Lens which come fully assembled and do not require any software Distortion profile edits, just literally take them out of the box and put them into the Pro..
https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/618...-and-adapter-mod?show_sold_out_detail=1&bes=1
i have three separate vive systems at my house. to regular and one pro. three weeks ago i bought two lens mod full kits but one mainly for vive pro.
i decided to try it on one of my older vives first and im glad i did. for me the lenses popped out easy and the new ones fit perfect but good luck getting all the dust and other particles off the screen even with airduster can it was a pain in the for me and theres still a piece or two in there that when you notice it you allways see it in certain lighted scenes. also fov is noticeability smaller and objects seem to be out of proportion but the lenses are clearer and god rays are way less in the black scenes . i had horrible fishbowl when i first tried and i tried using undistort app but its a to sit and tweak for hours so im on my vive pro for now.Is there an easier way to put in the right distortion file for the lense upgrade?
i decided to try it on one of my older vives first and im glad i did. for me the lenses popped out easy and the new ones fit perfect but good luck getting all the dust and other particles off the screen even with airduster can it was a pain in the for me and theres still a piece or two in there that when you notice it you allways see it in certain lighted scenes. also fov is noticeability smaller and objects seem to be out of proportion but the lenses are clearer and god rays are way less in the black scenes . i had horrible fishbowl when i first tried and i tried using undistort app but its a to sit and tweak for hours so im on my vive pro for now.Is there an easier way to put in the right distortion file for the lense upgrade?
Yes this is what i am hoping will happen with my Lens change.
My main aim for now until the Lens arrive from the states is to sort out the Audio which sucks like a thing that sucks really bad! This was first reported back last year when the pro hit the market, and Vive owned up to a 'Issue', and lots of post about a incoming fix. But did it fix it? have i got a faulty set, as mine clearly has the latest firmware on it and my audio still sucks. It literally has no Bass at all. Not going to get one of those clips that forces my phones onto my ear, that sounds way to painful.
So what have you pro owners done to get round this?
I have ordered this to see it this works.. (https://www.mytrendyphone.co.uk/sho...k_google.uk&refHost=https://www.google.co.uk/).
I'll update, but would welcome other pro users input to see if i am missing anything.
Don't get me wrong it's super cool that this very cheap mod dramatically improves the image quality so much but I do still find it hard to believe that the lenses that HTC engineers spent so long developing can simply be swapped out for other completely different (non frenzel) lenses from another company (oculus) with zero repercussions.
I would be very wary personally.
Eyes are a very sensitive thing
I would be very wary personally.
Eyes are a very sensitive thing
Look see here, one of a few YT vids showing this mod! Like you i am perturbed that HTC let this £1100 item leave their workshop with these appalling lenses, but hey maybe they will get better ones on the next gen Vive if one ever materialises.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPO0Dh7CMg4&t=10s
I am happy that this change will give me what i want out of this, for £50 it is not too much of a risk to not warrant me trying it out. I can always reverse back if it does not work and ebay my lens mod purchase. So for me it is a no brainer, but after paying out £1110, one i would rather not take, but the benefits far outweigh the cons.
I'll let this thread know the outcome on this and the audio mod.
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Oh it's available, you just have to pay to get it shipped here. Still works out less then half the cost of the Pro though.
And you don't have to take it apart to get decent picture
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Oh it's available, you just have to pay to get it shipped here. Still works out less then half the cost of the Pro though.
And you don't have to take it apart to get decent picture
Yep, i know that as i have looked into this, but my experience of buying a Canon Camera from a US of A company a year or so back has soured my experince of buying from the States again. First off UK customs stung me heavily for Tax, Then i had an issue and had to send it back to the states, with Insurance postage and then explaining to Her Majesty's customs again that it was not a new buy but a repair when it came back into the country meant more tme and more cost.
The Hassle & Hidden extra cost experienced there had me saying Never again. I worked it out after all these cost it would have been cheaper for me to fly over, stay a few days for the repair and fly back!
NEVER AGAIN! I'll leave that for others to try. For me the Pro Vive from a UK Seller (eBuyer.com) means i am covered by UK Trading Standards and a full UK warranty and 2 years from Vive!
That sucks but yes you will have to pay import charges as that's uk VAT! you will have paid that on your pro anyway.
As for warranty, I would agree with you but as you are modding the headset you will lose your warranty anyway doing that.
Not true, as the Mod is reversible. I just simply put the original Fresenal lens back. If you watch the video you'll see how easy the lens pop out. There is no retaining glue or tabs to remove to get them out. The audio Mod is a just adding 3rd party headphones, a mod Vive Support actually recommend and have a sequence in their own manual and online on how ro remove original headphones and plug in 3rd party phones. I am merely using a small DAC amp inline to boost the lack of bass.
UK Vat is not hidden, it is a tax we all have to pay, but the price is upfront not hidden, also customs can and do often charge other import duties on sales from the states and other overseas countries, we the UK buying public are at the behest of the Customs and Excise people and how they feel. Sending a valuable item back to America is a pure nightmare (It was for me, and enough to say never again).
I have the money, and i am an impatient guy, got sick of Pimax not answering me (Read the pimax forums for my trial of post on 'When will i get a Pimax if ordered now'. I pay the money and expect a good service. Yes by wheeling and dealing i could have got a cheaper headset, but it's my choice, i don't expect others to agree, it's just from my experiences that have led me to make the decisions i make.
I don't back kickstarter projects, but applaud others that do. I prefer to buy from a reputable UK dealer. I know sooner or later Pimax will sell on Amazon maybe even Amazon UK, but .............!
It absolutely will void warranty and even if you can't tell that when it's been reversed, you can bet HTC are well aware of the mod and will use it as a means to deny warranty replacements. It's a risk I personally wouldn't take on a piece of tech that's costs that much. HTC support is bad enough as it is
OK, you have your opinion and i have mine and quite a few other owners who have done this swap and sent headset for warranty repair, after reversing the lens change.
You say and i quote' even if you can't tell when its been reversed' well if you can't tell how will they know? Refuse every return to them by saying i have no proof, but you may have done the mod so we believe you have voided your warranty'? Even if you are ultra careless in removing the lens and scratch the lens in taking them out, the onus is on them to prove the scratch was a result of an unauthorised upgrade.
If i send the unit back with the Gear VR lenses in, then i would expect them to void any warranty, but..... hey ho. Lets just leave it here as you have your opinion, and i have mine. I really don't want 'My' Thread to get sidelined by a discussion which is not relevant to the reason why i started it. I have had numerous helpful suggestions and advice, i don't want those helpful people to be put of this thread as it has been taken over by a petty squabble about whether or whether not Vive will spot i may have done a lens change or not.
Fly safe Cmdt Benji85
***Update***
Still waiting for the Lens mod to fly over from Sunny Florida, wish i paid for Expedited delivery, but at £37 extra for this service, i'll hang on.
Bought this (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07MRJSJ6G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) took of the god awful Vive headphone, and fitted the USB-C to 3.5mm Converter, plugged in a pair of in ear Sennheiser and WOW, blown away again with deep Bass and great ED Sounds.
Headset is also considerably lighter with out the Baked Bean cans on, and easier to put on. As my ears are funny, any in-ear phones keep falling out so bought a set of these to keep them in.... (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00THKPMVQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1). These are GREAT and keep my in-ear phones firmly in and block out all outside noise.
Another update when Lens change mod happens.
Still waiting for the Lens mod to fly over from Sunny Florida, wish i paid for Expedited delivery, but at £37 extra for this service, i'll hang on.
Bought this (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07MRJSJ6G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) took of the god awful Vive headphone, and fitted the USB-C to 3.5mm Converter, plugged in a pair of in ear Sennheiser and WOW, blown away again with deep Bass and great ED Sounds.
Headset is also considerably lighter with out the Baked Bean cans on, and easier to put on. As my ears are funny, any in-ear phones keep falling out so bought a set of these to keep them in.... (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00THKPMVQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1). These are GREAT and keep my in-ear phones firmly in and block out all outside noise.
Another update when Lens change mod happens.
Awesome find mate, I have one on the way now as well, thanks !!
It's kind of strange that for all the time I've been using the Rift there doesn't seem to have been any improvement in the tech.
Pimax seems to have mixed reviews (as far as ED is concerned) and the Vive pro has it flaws too, with the lenses and the headphones.
All in am I right in thinking the Rift is still the best?
Pimax seems to have mixed reviews (as far as ED is concerned) and the Vive pro has it flaws too, with the lenses and the headphones.
All in am I right in thinking the Rift is still the best?
Price, Software and controller wise yes absolutely... But visually, I love my Vive pro and have put up with the poorer software and horrible controllers for the sake of the clarity also the tracking has been absolutely perfect, where as the Rift required more sensors and usb ports etc......
I have the Pimax, Vive Pro and Oculus, for me the vive pro is the best, especially for Elite, better colours and clarity especially with lens mod. The Pimax works for some, but is nowhere near ready for a retail sale as yet, too many issues, like crackinng cases, incorrect IPD and lack of blacks... That and the company is absolutely horrible to deal with.. As an example, they promised me a refund, but now will not respond to any forms of communications etc... I have been forced to put in a paypal claim etc...
The oculus is still the better all round package, but once you have seen the Vive Pro's visuals, it is hard to go back... If the Pimax could fix their issues, it would be a better headset and the FOV is really awesome, but with the current distortions, poor head strap, lack of colour/contrast, absolutely horrible IPD adjustment and dealing with a company that simply refuses to respond to you, it is just not worth the risk, you may be lucky and get a good one, but there is a greater chance that you won't and there will be no chance of a refund etc..
I predict that a lot of users Pimax headsets will not be working in 12 months.. Whereas the Oculus and Vive Pro will still be going strong.
Hi Mate,
Nice to hear from you. As you know i have the rift and now have invested in the Vive pro, as Pimax would/could not commit to a delivery date. I have yet to receive the Lens mod as i bought mine from Florida US and would not pay the £37 expedited UPS delivery so opted for the snail mail delivery. It has tracking on it and i see it has had a tour of the state of Florida (Lucky Lens Parcel). Anyhows it arrived at LHR on Sat so expecting it this week. Out of the box the Vive pro is superior Visual's but quite a small sweet spot and involves a lot of head turning to get thing in focus.
For example if i look straight ahead in the Cockpit of Elite, the fuel level on the right and system info on the left are way out of focus, however look at them and they are crystal clear. I am told and am hoping that the Lens mod rectifys this dramatically. I will let you know later on this week after the lens mod arrives.
The Audio is a JOKE, no not a JOKE, that make me laugh. This Audio is a disgrace and quite frankly HTC VIVE should be ashamed of themselves. Honestly hold 2 empty baked bean tins on your ears and connect with string is a better quality than the out of the box audio. NO HELP from the VivePro forums, and HTC seems to brush this under the carpet!
HOWEVER!! A simple buy from Amazon (See my link up a bit on this thread.) A decent pair of in-ear/on ear phones, and 2 mins to remove the disgraceful pro phones and beautiful sounds now, much better even than the Rift, which had a Great sound.
The Pro offers no nose gap and is great for Imurshun, but if you use keyboard keys or other device keys to operate ship things in game, then you have to remove the rubber nose flaps to bring back the nose gap. This does not bother me as i do have other keys i use to play the game.
The RIFT: It has an overall hugly bigger sweet 'AREA' (Bigger than a spot), but sharpness is not its forty. Colours are not as good as the Pro and Blacks lack blackness after having a Pro on your swede! I do miss Oculus dash and the ability to bring up my desktop so i could see third party Apps and use them in game.
Comfiness....Pro wins hands down, but not saying the Rift is uncomfortable, far from it, but the Pro headset once the annoying phones have been removed is better and feels more snuggly on the face/head.
Is the Pro worth it? I'll answer that after the Lens mod as for me VISUALS is everything in a VR. The vibrancy of the colours, the deeper blacks of the pro are to behold, but out of the box, default pro i would say .......errrr let me answer that after the Mod. Foe £1100 i should not have to be modding it, both Visual and Sound, and HTC have to seriously look at them selves and honestly ask themselves can we do better on the Audio, and why are we still using a god awful Lenses, especially when it is proven that a far cheaper VR lens works better? Can we not look at the Lens and Change?
I suppose that will be the HTC Vive Pro 2 for £1500+?? who knows
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