Grinding for all the guardian tech should I not bother with the GPP, GPD and GHRP?

[Kenpachi85]

Finally gotten around to the guardian tech grind about to get the 3rd vessel blueprint then head off to the data farming site. Looks like a long grind ahead as I plan on getting all weapons and most the modules but was wondering if there's any reason to get some of them. From what I understand human g5 engineered power plants, power disributors and hull reinforcements are far superior to the guardian ones. Is that correct or can they be useful in any way considering that I have g5 alternatives? If not and they suck I can shave a little off of the grind here at least.

 

[shadowwar]

You are quite correct about G5 Engineered modules like PP and PDU. So save your materials for something else CMDR.

 

[Kenpachi85]

You are quite correct about G5 Engineered modules like PP and PDU. So save your materials for something else CMDR.

Awesome that's what I figured thanks CMDR. I just got my 8 weapon fragments and filled completely up on all the mats just need to go grab 2 module fragments and I'm good. I still need 60 more units of pattern epsilon data but I'll swing by synuefe xr-h d11-102 on the way back and farm that last bit and I'm all set. o7

 

[Prasinus]

One thing to consider if you might go to Colonia: Guardian PP and PD are available there, A-rated PP and PD modules > class 3 are not.

 

[Jmanis]

FWIW... G5 may be overall better... but the guardian variants are

A. Still entirely passable compared to most no/low/mid engineered variants,
B. Require a single set of materials to unlock the items forever, compared to G5 where each item needs to be engineered every time with it's own set of mats, C. Are always available from relevant stations. If you only use a single blueprint from an engineer, you're fine, but if you use multiple, you need to repeatedly go back to the engineer (also for any modifications which can't be done remotely).
D. Specific to GHRP (or MAHRP)... you can't get corrosive resistance anywhere else with engineered or vanilla. Insert an argument about overall performance here... but it's a difference nonetheless.

So are they better than G5? No. Are they a perfectly adequate replacement which require less long term effort to fit out over multiple ships? Yes.

tldr of you're trying to shave off grind... for a once off fit engineering may be easier. For longer term fitting of multiple ships, guardian tech is far less grind.

 

[Deleted member 182079]

FWIW... G5 may be overall better... but the guardian variants are

A. Still entirely passable compared to most no/low/mid engineered variants,
B. Require a single set of materials to unlock the items forever, compared to G5 where each item needs to be engineered every time with it's own set of mats, C. Are always available from relevant stations. If you only use a single blueprint from an engineer, you're fine, but if you use multiple, you need to repeatedly go back to the engineer (also for any modifications which can't be done remotely).
D. Specific to GHRP (or MAHRP)... you can't get corrosive resistance anywhere else with engineered or vanilla. Insert an argument about overall performance here... but it's a difference nonetheless.

So are they better than G5? No. Are they a perfectly adequate replacement which require less long term effort to fit out over multiple ships? Yes.

tldr of you're trying to shave off grind... for a once off fit engineering may be easier. For longer term fitting of multiple ships, guardian tech is far less grind.

All very good points.

Also, the corrosive resistance stacks and makes quite the difference in AX CZ's and the like - I don't carry decontamination limpets (rather use the slots for hull/module reinforcements) and try to avoid cooking my ship to get rid of it for obvious reasons, with the Guardian stuff you can pretty much ignore corrosion damage as it counts down much slower than without it.

 

[TheOverWolf]

While I realize this is late in coming, there is another thing to consider regarding the Guardian PP and PD's. While it's true that the Guardian PP gives less total power output than an A rated grade 5 overcharged PP, it does have significantly more integrity (resistance to having your PP beign sniped). Also, while it doesn't have as much integrity as an A rated grade 5 engineered armoured PP (nor as much heat efficiency), it offers significantly more power at a much lower weight. So it serves as a middle ground between the two. Also, the side benefit of the Guardian PD is the 3% bonus power output that it gives to any power plant it is used with. In the case of the Guardian PP, this puts the power output within 1% of that of an A rated grade 5 overcharged plant.

 

[Dr. Nagi]

Saving on mats and thus the grind for builds that don't depend on those having G5 Engineering really is a good argument. Gotta get back to the sites after DW2