Launched coaster
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I'm glad someone else noticed this. Intamin don't make this clear on their website, however. They all come under the same accelerator label.
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Not everybody really cares. I would argue a vast majority of users just want to have fun, and build a reasonable facsimile of their favorite, or dream coasters.
It's a minority of you that will argue about the manufacturer of the bolts used to hold the track together.
In general, you will find people enjoy small details very much, but dislike restrictions. Very few people will argue for more restrictions.
My new mantra is: If you can build a floating island, you've tossed all regard for realism out the window.
To say "that track manufacturer doesn't do vertical track" is just silly when you can point to all the unrealistic things you CAN do.
But not that. You can't make Top Thrill Dragster yet. [downcast]
It's a minority of you that will argue about the manufacturer of the bolts used to hold the track together.
In general, you will find people enjoy small details very much, but dislike restrictions. Very few people will argue for more restrictions.
My new mantra is: If you can build a floating island, you've tossed all regard for realism out the window.
To say "that track manufacturer doesn't do vertical track" is just silly when you can point to all the unrealistic things you CAN do.
But not that. You can't make Top Thrill Dragster yet. [downcast]
The whole point of the coaster designer this time has been realism, so you're argument goes against the designers intention. You also are arguing a red-herring over the terrain editor.
The same company, Intamin, makes both types of acceleration coaster that share similar components, which I have no doubt will be included eventually into the build. After watching the videos, I can tell how anxious Sam is to ensure these models are accurate. The strata coasters that people are inevitibly wishing to build require quite a few components and a new type of box track that has not been included at-all yet. It is the likely case that Sam and his team are currently modelling the box track, which will also lead to giga-coasters.
Also, yes, I and others do care about realism. I have no idea how numerous we are, but we are an important demographic none-the-less and have been with these games since RCT1. I belive we are just as valuable to the PC team as those who just wish to play. I might add that people will care about realism when the wooden coasters are revealed. When done poorley, they just don't feel right. The PC team has done an amazing job so far.
Again, I shall repeat that this is likey a track design issue. Box track is very different and much more intricate than any other steel track type. It is likely that is proving just as tough as the wooden.
Regards,
R.
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I have to agree with this, one of the reasons people found Planet Coaster so good in alpha 1 was the lack of restrictions on buildings and scenery and in building coasters. I do think that coasters should be realistic, and they can be... If you make them realistic. I think that is the key, there are people who want to make realistic coasters, and they have the tools to do so (albeit not the easiest to use at the moment), and there are people who want to have fun and make coasters that only be dreamed of, and I think the tools should allow that too.
You are entirely missing the point. The 500 coaster is not a strata coaster; furthermore, it requires an entirely different type of track. Even if you could do vertical with the 500, you would still have a flat ladder track supported by a triagular joint. They are not the same.
By your reasoning the Junior coaster should have vertical drops and loops. These models that have been put together by Sam and his team are stunning and, for what this game is, getting eerily close to a real simulation. People will get the strata launched coaster, but it will require new cars and new track, which no-doubt is being worked on.
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Where did I say anything about it being a strata coaster? I know it's not a strata coaster. What I'm saying is, if someone wants to make the 500 look like that, then I think (just my opinion) that they should be able to.
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But the cars cannot handle verticle track; in fact, very few roller coaster designs can. It is why we have a vertical drop coaster by B&M. Vertical track is highly advanced stuff and it messes with the inbuilt physics engine that the developers have made for the game. You don't just put it onto coaster designs that don't have them in real life.
Okay, well like I said, it's my opinion that they should deviate a bit from complete realism, and that's all it is. An opinion. I'm not arguing about whether or not it would work in real life.
I'm aware. I have made my argument rather clear. I think that releasing the 500 was a mistake, however. I knew this would happen, with numerous people complaining. They should have waited for the box track and just given people a stata coaster so thousands of people could make a bigger Kindra Ka clone. Oh well, we will get it eventually.
Something I have noticed about these forums is how full of ideas and, in some cases, demands everyone has. I do hope the developers are getting enough rest. The fact that a patch came out in less than 24 hours excites and bothers me. As someone who has experianced the academic crunch, I worry. I also worry about the incessent noise of fans, pulling them in directions that cannot work together. From what I can tell, they have and continue to stick with their original ideas.
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This thread is not going well guys, lets just enjoy the game!
Some people want realism: they can make realistic parks
Others enjoy fantasy: we have that too
Lets all get along [big grin]
@Bitter jeweler: great pic!
Some people want realism: they can make realistic parks
Others enjoy fantasy: we have that too
Lets all get along [big grin]
@Bitter jeweler: great pic!
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An excellent demonstration of how the 500 is a different form, without vertical track. Notice none of the track is true vertical, but instead curves into close vertical? It also brilliantly demonstrates how unsuitable the track is to replicate the impressive boxed strata coasters of Kindra Ka and Top Thrill Dragster (and the smaller variants like Stealth, which are not technically strata because they are under 400ft).
Thank you for the picture.
No, it's a demonstration that I could do it anyway, so why don't they remove the restriction.
But you didn't do it, did you? You did a close to vertical hill, followed by another. You did not do a strata vertical hill. There is no restriction by the way, it has not been coded in. There is nothing to restrict.
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Bah....Don't worry, Creaper. It's just a fun battle between an Academic and a Creative. Happens all the time.
It's all good. [yesnod]
Quite. You should see academic debates, far more brutal. Haha.