The issue with the 970 is not that big of a deal, however I'm not saying it's not an issue.
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What computer should I buy?
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Not really true, even though i hate how Nvidia keeps a lot of its technology to itself while AMD opens up to the public with it, they still crunch out more performance in cards within the same range. A bit like Intel VS AMD, AMD uses more cores while Intel focuses on clock frequency.
That graph doesn't have the AMD R9 390 on it which is the card the 970 is competing against price wise.
[video=youtube;cMUbHdQBSiQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMUbHdQBSiQ[/video]
[video=youtube;vSDQzlKDYq4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSDQzlKDYq4[/video]
[video=youtube;-gkOUgKiOAc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gkOUgKiOAc[/video]
Edit: Although this is a moot point as it really is worth seeing what the next gen cards bring to the table!
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I'm really not going to continue this discussion because we are going way to offtopic but if you even watch the videos you see that both the cards gain and drop frames at different moments in the games, AMD is fine but its a fact that it has somewhat terrible drivers and it takes way too long for AMD to catch on to the latest technology which is why in AC for example it has significant framedrop in water scenes since the simulation on GTX cards are done better but on the other hand GTX cards fail with hair physics (Tomb Raider) and so the circle goes on and on and on.
Also try not to post 3 videos but rather dumb it down to text or a image, looks you are really trying to defend AMD over there.
Yeah, I'm really just trying to defend AMD, despite not owning any of their products and actually owning the nvidia card in question. Also try to post graphs with relevant cards, looks like you're really trying to defend nvidia over there.
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Go on there, read through some topics as a million people have asked the same question and you will get feedback from some smart cookies.
To anyone else, sign up, ask the question, watch the magic happen.
Enjoy
This. Remember, features like water have yet to be added so it's anyone’s guess what impact water will have on performance for example. The guest AI isn't fully implemented yet either along with all of the scenery, rides and what have you. Unless you're planning on playing the alpha, save and wait! New hardware is coming from both AMD and NVIDIA!
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Wow! Have been out all day but thank you to everyone for all the valuable opinions and tips. One of the reasons I was leaning towards the Nvidia GPU was I read that they work very well with the Intel processors. A few times I have heard that the 970 works very well with the i7 6700k. I agree with the idea of waiting to see what the next gen brings but realistically the game looks awesome and I know I will be getting it, so I may just as well get it bought sooner rather than later. I love the fact that the developers are taking this so seriously, I'm a big fan of the original SIM city from back in the day and it was so sad to see how the reboot of that turned out. I would be more than happy to be involved in the alpha as it appears that a lot of the fan feedback is being considered. RCTW has its heart in the right place but it is looking very unlikely to work out at this point. I really hope the developers take the time to get this release absolutely right. It's looking great so far. Very excited at this point
I am thinking the time to build this is going to be half term at the end of May or Summer Holidays as I don't work during school holidays so I have much more free time.
Is there a potential for brand new graphics cards to have unidentifiable flaws when they are newly released? Or is it a case of feedback coming within a few days of release?
Have plenty of experience tinkering with PC's updating RAM or switching out hard drives etc but am a little worried about starting from scratch. Is it really as easy as people say? I'm fairly logical when it comes to instructions. I rewired my attic without electrocuting myself!
Is there a potential for brand new graphics cards to have unidentifiable flaws when they are newly released? Or is it a case of feedback coming within a few days of release?
Have plenty of experience tinkering with PC's updating RAM or switching out hard drives etc but am a little worried about starting from scratch. Is it really as easy as people say? I'm fairly logical when it comes to instructions. I rewired my attic without electrocuting myself!
Building PC's these days is like assembling a lego model! Only traps you need to look out for is memory compatibility for your motherboard (these days this is far less of an issue than it once was) , checking the power supply you want to buy has the appropriate connectors for your graphics card and making sure its rated power is enough for your system. Really any supply 500w+ from the decent brands will have all you'll need. Nothing a quick google won't sort out. if you go down the self build route there are hundreds of guides available online that show the process step by step.
As for flaws with new cards, I'd been building machines since the days of having to solder the processor on to the motherboard and have never encountered issues that weren’t fixed with a driver update. Not to say it never happens, just not something you need to worry about.
Fantastic, I'm going to go for it. Thanks to everyone for the advice and I will come back with some more questions when I'm closer to purchasing.
Intel HAD, people should stop thinking AMD is a chipset company that doesn't know how to make good cpu's. They have improved their cpu's very well since the 00's. I'm running one myself and i can run it all smoothly. So for a budget pc, an AMD cpu would do great and saves you money..
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For outright performance intel has the lead at the moment and like MrCow says, this game is CPU intensive in it's current state.
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even if you dont like the amount of money needed for the next gen, current gen will be alot cheaper when nextgen comes out so just wait it out
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intel HAS the edge on this. dont trust me? look up any benchmark. intel is alot smoother on cpu intensive games. look at arma3 for example. cpu intensive game, difference between amd and intel, same price range, is about 20!!!! fps!!!
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yes it is really easy. i never did anything except the things you did, switching ram and harddisks and i built my pc a couple of weeks ago. as long as you have the parts that match eachother(can be found within 1minute with a google search
) its just a lego/ikea buildpackage. everything goes on 1 place and wont fit anywhere else BTW for some techtips, check linustechtips on youtube, he made alot of things clearer for me when i ran into issues. KEEP IN MIND if you install windows on your pc, make sure that in the BIOS you set your drive with the boot as 1st boot this is the only issue i ran into because i forgot it and i suddenly saw that i forgot to do it, runs smooth ever since - - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -
midtower usually fits everything
For a nice well built case that is pretty looking, i have this one:
http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/define-series/define-r4-arctic-white
(I think it is older model but there's newer)
White and stylish and it is nice built as said, nice padding inside, nice places for fans.
This is from me who hate the usual "gamer" design cases that looks like black spaceships. I like white and minimalism, so this is lovely. (which is funny because I "should" be using Mac because of my design preference, but I can't change, I am too used to Windows plus I use some software in my work that aren't available on other OS, mostly notable being machine embroidery digitizing software, but also CorelDraw)
http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/define-series/define-r4-arctic-white
(I think it is older model but there's newer)
White and stylish and it is nice built as said, nice padding inside, nice places for fans.
This is from me who hate the usual "gamer" design cases that looks like black spaceships. I like white and minimalism, so this is lovely. (which is funny because I "should" be using Mac because of my design preference, but I can't change, I am too used to Windows plus I use some software in my work that aren't available on other OS, mostly notable being machine embroidery digitizing software, but also CorelDraw)
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Wow! Thanks again for the really helpful information to everyone who has contributed.
I have had problems in the past with AMD performance- usually not initially but a few years down the line. Hence my choice to lean towards Intel.
Does anyone know when the 6700k is likely to be upgraded? I realise Intel are working on new chips but I wasn't sure if it was summer 2016 or fall before they hit the market.
Does anyone have any more thoughts on graphics cards? I have read a fair bit on the Nvidia GeForce GTX 970. I think anything more would be overkill at this point, but I realise Nvidia are about to release new products in the next few weeks, so happy to wait for any price drops.
I am hoping to put together a machine which is somewhat future proofed so that I can switch out components as they become obsolete.
Thanks again for all the help and advice.
I have had problems in the past with AMD performance- usually not initially but a few years down the line. Hence my choice to lean towards Intel.
Does anyone know when the 6700k is likely to be upgraded? I realise Intel are working on new chips but I wasn't sure if it was summer 2016 or fall before they hit the market.
Does anyone have any more thoughts on graphics cards? I have read a fair bit on the Nvidia GeForce GTX 970. I think anything more would be overkill at this point, but I realise Nvidia are about to release new products in the next few weeks, so happy to wait for any price drops.
I am hoping to put together a machine which is somewhat future proofed so that I can switch out components as they become obsolete.
Thanks again for all the help and advice.
The next release from Intel is Kaby Lake scheduled for release in late 2016, however the i7 6700k will be good for years, it's an excellent processor that performs really well! As for video cards, really worth waiting there I think. Even if you don't buy into the new stuff, the older gen (or our current gen) cards will start hitting the second hand market as people upgrade and will go down in price in general.
It's hard to future proof a system really as non of us know what the future holds! The main component that will hold you back in the future is likely to be the video card though, processor wise things are much more steady for the time being. If you're considering a move to a 4k or even 1440p display as an example you might want to step up a tier in GPU's. For 1080p the 970 will be ok for a while.