To paraphrase Abraham Lincoln, " You can please all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time."
Product Update - Planet Coaster is coming to Steam
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To paraphrase Abraham Lincoln, " You can please all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time."
On page 3 of this thread, Brett confirmed (twice) that alpha players will get the beta access as well.
So, no worries [happy]
Also check your spam folder. Something about this email flagged it as spam in my Comcast account, where previous emails from Frontier have landed in the inbox without problems.
Robert
Would you consider the Coney Island, NY Cyclone a true woodie or a hybrid since it has a wood track, but steel supports?
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Yes, it's a true wooden coaster. The fundamental difference in definition between wood and steel coaster lies not in the support structure but in the track itself. A ride is considered "steel" if it has exclusively steel track, generally tubular steel or (more recently) I-box track. It's considered "wood" if it has primarily wooden track, made up of several layers of 2x8 wooden planks typically lined with a runner rail of thin plate steel, or occassionally with a much thicker piece of 2x8 steel, in which case it is deemed a wood variant called "topper track".
The support structure ultimately makes no difference in the designation of the ride. There are plenty of steel coasters (especially Arrow Mine Trains) which ride on wooden trestle support structures like most iconic wooden coasters--one high profile example is Cedar Point's Gemini. The reason that most steel coasters DON'T use this technique is that it's less flexible--the wooden trestle isn't as adept at supporting inversions, steep drops and overbanked turns--and it's generally more expensive due to the increased amount of raw material being used. On the flipside some of the most popular wooden coasters ever built ride on steel supports; in particular, MY all-time favorite wooden coaster, The Voyage at Holiday World, has a steel trestle support structure, and it frankly needs to because it's so massive that wooden trestle supports wouldn't be able to hold the weight of the track, much less endure through hundreds of passes of multi-thousand-kilogram carriages steaming through at 135kph with 3.5+gs of positive acceleration bearing down.
A "Hybrid", strictly speaking, doesn't actually exist in coaster terminology, but is used to describe an event when a (typically aging) wooden ride has the wooden track removed and replaced by steel track; to this date this has only been done by the company Rocky Mountain Construction (RMC), who use steel "I-box" track. The result is, by definition, a steel ride, but often the term Hybrid is used to indicate that the ride was transformed from a previous wooden one. No one to my knowledge has ever accurately described a steel ride on wooden supports that was originally designed and built as such an attraction as a hybrid coaster.
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TL;DR the NY Cyclone is a true wooden coaster because it still uses wooden track. If it had wooden supports and a steel track insead, some would call it a "hybrid" since it once had a wooden track.
Also, on the actual topic of the thread: super happy to hear about the Steam functionality for two reasons--one, I'm glad to see that it'll be in a high-profile marketplace so that everyone who's heard of RCTW will now also almost definitely hear of PC; and two, if UGC is introduced someday, we can get Steam Workshop functionality! (though I think that's what you guys were already saying.) Thanks for giving us a definite date on when Alpha 3 is coming too. [squeeeeee] My calendar has been marked!
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Vampiro
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Good question... never tought of that.
I never imagined the game would go to Steam, so it was making sense the whole UGC would come later because a system had to be set up.
Now that we have Steam it may be a little faster because it's pretty much "in the box"...
Guess we will hear about this in the livestreams that will -probably- begin next week [shocked]
My biggest concern with steam workshop is how heavily moderated the UGC is. for fallout and skyrim for instance i use the nexus. I just hope we have the ability to manually edit our mod files. I want my strip club dark ride and noone can stop me.
hehe [big grin]
You can always just download it and mod it to whatever you like for your own park. [tongue]
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Thanks. After re-re-reading it, I can now see that it's obvious FD is just saying that you can't keep playing the alpha when the beta is released -- since the beta will replace A3 (like A3 replaced A2, etc.).
Robert
The more important question is, will there ever be a time before launch where the game is inaccessible? For example, say between Alpha 3 and the beta, where the Alpha 3 will close, will it directly replace the Alpha 3 immediately with an update similar to the previous Alphas? Or will there be, say, a week of downtime where no one will be able to play the game?
Edit: Also a random request for information on the VIP ticket? Thanks!
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when one phase ends, the start of another one would take it's place
. thought it was logical that alpha would end. and beta would start. and alpha and beta would be still "early" bird phases o: (as the early bird upgrade would mean everything before full consumer release)- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -
I don't think with steam that there will be a downtime. there would just be a big green go button to push the new build online. it should be a seamless process (which I've experienced with many early access games)
I don't want to use steam because I've lost my game collection once when something similar like steam pulled the plug. Ever since I only buy discs but I decided to buy PC anyways. I'm really not happy with this. Come on, first they aren't even sure if steam will be a thing and now you MUST have it? That doesn't even make sense. How were they planning to put the share function in without steam? Or did they know this was happening all along? I don't know if I would've bought it if I had known this earlier. Please don't do this
Steam is WAY more reliable than the Frontier Launcher. There possibility of Frontier going bankrupt (which means no more Frontier Launcher, no more Frontier servers) is higher than the possibility of Steam pulling the plug in the next 10 years.
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That's exactly the post I was thinking of! Thanks for posting it. I wonder if this still holds true considering the conversion to steam. Personally, I don't have a problem with it, but I just want to make sure I have enough popcorn when the forum bursts. [squeeeeee]
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I've bought the early bird in which they said you're able to share everything so there's no way I'm gonna spend another 5€ for something I already paid for when purchasing Planet Coaster..
its great news 90% of my games are on there including elite d. easier to make and hook up with friends make new friends with the same game ect
im sure the reason you have to buy a game for more then $5 is becuase of all the people who have pirited games and have to have a false steam account to run it so they do this to prove that but may be well wrong also same goes to people who buy russian keys of many games cheap and have to have different steam accounts again i could be wrong just my own guess....
ive added a cpl of you on here to steam that have put there steam add so feel free to add me too = jasonvoak
keep up the good work f.d and look forward to your next stream...
im sure the reason you have to buy a game for more then $5 is becuase of all the people who have pirited games and have to have a false steam account to run it so they do this to prove that but may be well wrong also same goes to people who buy russian keys of many games cheap and have to have different steam accounts again i could be wrong just my own guess....
ive added a cpl of you on here to steam that have put there steam add so feel free to add me too = jasonvoak
keep up the good work f.d and look forward to your next stream...
All this discussion about 5$ .. Seriously guys, quit it
Sure, if you have only 50€ a week to live from you just don't eat for a couple of days. no problem