What does Frontier have against new plants?

The game's barely gotten any plants since it came out, and it still doesn't even have proper basic flower beds [weird]

Worlds Fair was an awesome time to add new plants...new American Southwest plants for the Mexican stuff, Cherry Trees and some Japanese Maples for the asian stuff, Stone Pines and more variety of Cypress shapes/sizes/stoutness for Italy...the list could go on.

I can't believe there's no cherry blossom trees with the japanese stuff! [cry]
 
The update before this one had planters and quite a large addition of new plants? I can’t recall if it was in the free update or not.

But I do agree that they missed a trick by not adding country specific natural scenery to the World’s Fair update
 
The new plants from that update were still paltry compared to what we should have by now. Go in-game and look in the plants menu, not trees, plants- flowers and such. There's basically nothing. And that ONE red flower bush that we STILL can't recolor!

Have you got the Vintage DLC pack?


The vintage pack appears to have the least value so it's the only one I didn't shell out for. Why, did they lock basic flower beds behind a paywall? I can't believe some of this stuff they lock behind a paywall. It's bad enough I had to pay for waterfalls and cars.
 
Unfortunately it costs money to keep developing a game. I’d be thankful that there are free updates alongside the paid DLCs. Back in my early days of gaming, once a game was released then that was it. You’d never expect new content, just a full priced sequel some years later.

I’m quite happy to have the best items behind a paywall. I pay the money, so do others, keeps the developers in a job and the fresh content rolling.

And my plant menu looks pretty decent so I’m assuming it is paid content.

Although again I agree with you on the red bush. I wish the thing could be changed colour! :)
 
Unfortunately it costs money to keep developing a game. I’d be thankful that there are free updates alongside the paid DLCs. Back in my early days of gaming, once a game was released then that was it. You’d never expect new content, just a full priced sequel some years later.

I’m quite happy to have the best items behind a paywall. I pay the money, so do others, keeps the developers in a job and the fresh content rolling.

And my plant menu looks pretty decent so I’m assuming it is paid content.

Although again I agree with you on the red bush. I wish the thing could be changed colour! :)

Don't be mistaken, games were being updated in 90s and sometimes expanded with some new content. It was hard to get the updates sometimes, but some developers tried. That being said, games usually felt more complete than what we get nowadays. Not saying it's bad, but a lot changed, but it wasn't bad back then. If PC released in 90s with this content, I think it wouldn't be well accepted.

Even after several updates and dlcs, people still (and to me it seems it's more and more people) ask for more content and pointing out spheres where it lacks the most - flat rides and nature scenery. And while I see a lot of missed opportunities with every update and DLC, this one is the biggest yet. And I also think steam reviews also confirm that.

Please please devs, add some more plants :)
 
Back in my early days of gaming, once a game was released then that was it. You’d never expect new content, just a full priced sequel some years later.

Expansion Packs have existed since 1981.

I’m quite happy to have the best items behind a paywall.

When those items are only the best because the base game is severely lacking them, that's not a good thing. :\
 
Expansion Packs have existed since 1981.



When those items are only the best because the base game is severely lacking them, that's not a good thing. :\

Very good point. I tend to agree with that too.

I realize developers had to create HUNDREDS of objects for this and any other DLC, but on the other hand, I care about what value it has. I must say, that especialy this DLC left me very dissapointed. There is indeed hundreds of object, but lots of them with almost zero value for me.

Now I mean mainly maybe too many signts for new shop brands.
 
The new plants from that update were still paltry compared to what we should have by now. Go in-game and look in the plants menu, not trees, plants- flowers and such. There's basically nothing. And that ONE red flower bush that we STILL can't recolor!

The vintage pack appears to have the least value so it's the only one I didn't shell out for. Why, did they lock basic flower beds behind a paywall? I can't believe some of this stuff they lock behind a paywall. It's bad enough I had to pay for waterfalls and cars.

Which flowers are you referring to? Here's the scenery I have showing for the Vintage Pack,

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I was under the assumption that those flowers were part of a free update, they're tagged as "main game". Did they mis-tag them and they just don't show up under vintage? I do think the vintage pack is worth it though if you want the bobsled coaster and 4 new flats (5th flat hurricane is a just a smaller version of sizzor). But other than that, yeah I was bummed with the scenery/animatronics/building content for Vintage.

I will also add that I was extremely bummed to see that World's Fair had zero trees/shrubs/flowers from around the world, especially asia.
 
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I think the confusion is the new plants were added to the regular game, not as part of the DLC, but they were added as part of the free update that went out the same time as the Vintage Pack.
There may be some new trees and other stuff as well, but here were the new plants and flowers that were added at that time.
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Weeping willow trees.. Hedges that aren't perfectly square. Cherry blossom trees. Those are a few examples I've seen mentioned by people. I personally would love to see some of the trees recolorable that way you could have different shades of green so all the trees don't look identical. You could also color them for different seasons... Or... For different planets.
 
After reading this thread, it got me wondering... What flora is lacking/missing from Planet Coaster? Do post examples! :)

May be unpopular choice given that the common complaint is that stuff in Planco is usually too big... but larger scale bushes, shrubs and ferns to be able to create forest landscapes with... Means that we won't need to sink trees into the ground...

But also maybe textures that add things like daisies, dandelions and English grass..
 
After reading this thread, it got me wondering... What flora is lacking/missing from Planet Coaster? Do post examples! :)

Simply put, variety. Lack of content is bscly in every possible category of Flora. Whatever we speak of trees, bushes, flowers.l and others. At this point, I would be happy with any additions.
 
The vintage pack appears to have the least value so it's the only one I didn't shell out for. Why, did they lock basic flower beds behind a paywall? I can't believe some of this stuff they lock behind a paywall. It's bad enough I had to pay for waterfalls and cars.

I'm not sure but I do know at least 2 of the flower beds require the Vintage pack as I've been caught out at least once with that.

Shane
 
While I 100% agree that I'd love to see more flora in the game (especially things like woodland ferns, and an expansion to the snow covered items), I do think that one of the early things to come out when the Toolkit becomes available is a wide range of foliage, if for no other reason that that there's a huge number of models out there ready to be brought into the game...
 
What i'd really like to see are Mourning Willows... don't know the exact english name, the latin one is Salix babylonica. These trees are often seen at lake and river sides, easing up the tree line. What's also missing are smaller varieties between bushes and trees. These plants do not have prominent tree trunks, but are up to 3 metres high, like elderberry bushes or lilacs. If you try to create a forest, you need to look at the forest line and how the plants look like there. If not, it'll look goofy... like sticks in the earthen surface. The plants at the forest frontier, neighboring a field for example are at first simple, small bushes, which grow up to a height of 1.2 to 1.5 metres. We already have those in the game already. But the next ones are plants/bushes growing as high as 2 to 3.5 metres, depending on the region you look at. For example brambles, raspberry or the above mentioned elderberries/lilacs. Regardless if you create a river or a field, you can't put just some trees neighbouring a flat surface. A forest doesn't start out of nowhere with 200 years old oaktrees ;) That happens only if some humans have cut away all the other things in the way. like in parks. But this looks artificial.

What's missing is not the general variety of plants even if i mentioned some, but the limited size an form. It'd be a great help if there would be an opportunity to grow or shrink objects like trees/plants. It's maybe the easier way to add some more freedom. A simplet black pine model can fill a whole forest, if it's not always the same height ;) I've done this before in Skyrim modding, and they do not have more tree models. They just use different sizes and rotate them. Did you know that the whole Rifton area has roughly only 5-6 tree models? And these are birches, not the more simple conifer like trees.

edit: A nice addition would be also a colorable climbing plant ;)
 
Corn stalks both growing and bundled after harvest. (Would be nice to have "Corn walls" too so we could make a Corn maze of sorts...
Cat-tails and some actual reeds to flesh out our aquatic shorelines...
Some medium and tall grasses to help make things look overgrown...
Wheat grasses
Rice plants
Some large stumps...
Banana trees with actual bananas on them
Do we have apple trees both with and without apples? What about other fruit trees?
Fruit trees in full bloom even...
random weeds.... (Dandylions, milkweed, daisy patches, ect....)
Berry bushes (Blackberry, Raspberry, Blueberry all bearing fruit and possibly also recolor-able if you want to make fantasy fruits)
 
Great suggestions - I think Boabs/Boabab (Adansonia sp.) Trees and Bottle Trees Brachychiton sp. (their trucks could be a common colour, so we could make brilliant additions/other canopies with other game trees foliage),
Fat trunk trees look amazing in coaster games - especially with the new World's Fair Pack.
Trees and branches with no foliage for greater option, to add our own foliage type to go with country and theme of the area we are building. And with a common/uniform colour . . .

Strangler Figs (ficus sp.) with uniform coloured trunks to go/add to other trees foliage in game. Where I live there are world heritage Strangler Figs that are amazing. Google - Curtain Fig Tree - Cairns
Grasses, weeds and Reeds for neglected/wasteland areas - for theming,
and Cordylines
would be great too!

Swamp Cyprus buttresses and roots that are of a uniform colour, (at present, there seems to be to many variable un-colourable trunks - that do not go together) so we can add foliage and shape and the look that we want.
Fallen, rotting and broken logs - for aquatic rides - they just look great,

And some sculptural topiaries for the Japanese areas - (like sculptured Buxus sempervirens[/U] (English Box) like at the Hong Kong Disneyland Autopia - or similar to Disneyland Paris - the plants going up the Castle Hill - to force the perspective of the mountain - with more options to make - add on - crazy and more sculptural type bits. would be versatile . . .
I studied Landscaping, Botany and horticulture and have a pretty broad knowledge of plants - would love to help design stuff - regards G - BEST GAME EVER!
 
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