What does Frontier have against new plants?

MateriaGirl

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wowman said:
I think the confusion is the new plants were added to the regular game, not as part of the DLC, but they were added as part of the free update that went out the same time as the Vintage Pack.
There may be some new trees and other stuff as well, but here were the new plants and flowers that were added at that time.
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Silly me, I was looking for those flowers on the left in the FLOWERS section. They're in the "Wall Climbers" section.

Regardless- the flowers on the right are pathetic. There's no basic flowerbeds still besides one single set of tulips! Your choices are:

A. Random smattering of plants like someone tossed a bunch of seeds at random and only half germinated (those "wall climbing" roses)

B. Lumpy bushes that are 2-5 feet tall and can't be placed in groups because then it looks more like bubble wrap than a flowerbed

There's no flat, basic, squared off flowers. I want what The Sims has- square, triangle/angled, and curved edge flower beds. The tulip patch is the ONLY flower in the game that is a squared off, small, properly sized flowerbed.
 

LN

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MateriaGirl said:
Silly me, I was looking for those flowers on the left in the FLOWERS section. They're in the "Wall Climbers" section.

Regardless- the flowers on the right are pathetic. There's no basic flowerbeds still besides one single set of tulips! Your choices are:

A. Random smattering of plants like someone tossed a bunch of seeds at random and only half germinated (those "wall climbing" roses)

B. Lumpy bushes that are 2-5 feet tall and can't be placed in groups because then it looks more like bubble wrap than a flowerbed

There's no flat, basic, squared off flowers. I want what The Sims has- square, triangle/angled, and curved edge flower beds. The tulip patch is the ONLY flower in the game that is a squared off, small, properly sized flowerbed.
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A. Nonsense, you can make your own flowerbeds with combinations of the available flowers/bushes/trees (which I feel can use some updates yes, but that's where the Thememaker Toolkit will be for.) and various colors.

You can save those flowerbeds as scenery groups or blueprints and copy/paste them as much as you want so you don't need to place anything randomly.

B. Use your imagination and you can make more than something that looks like bubble wrap.
 

Aaronroberts12567

Aaronroberts12567
Its most likely that (and I've said this, and so has one of the brocoaster guys) that the pack is themed around the new shops, rather than the "theme" itself.

Hence why there are only 3 japanese scenery items, and they're all shop pieces.
 

MateriaGirl

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Luuknoord said:
A. Nonsense, you can make your own flowerbeds with combinations of the available flowers/bushes/trees (which I feel can use some updates yes, but that's where the Thememaker Toolkit will be for.) and various colors.

You can save those flowerbeds as scenery groups or blueprints and copy/paste them as much as you want so you don't need to place anything randomly.

B. Use your imagination and you can make more than something that looks like bubble wrap.
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I think you misunderstood A. I'm not talkinga bout placing flowers. I mean each individual piece is just a random smattering of flowers. Nothing clean, nothing curated, nothing that looks like a gardener tends to it outside of spraying water on it sometimes. Each individual object is spread out and goofy looking.

As for B. I'd love to see your examples of flower beds that are low and flat to the ground with no rolling "hills" of flowers. If the bushes are all rounded and lumpy, there's no way to make them not appear that way.
 

MateriaGirl

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Here are examples of basic flowerbeds.

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I like the messy foliage we have. It's fun to use. But in more curated areas, you don't have 6 foot wide branching madness of roses or nothing but big bulbous rounded half-sphere bushes. You have flat, low to the ground flowers like these. Plenty of flowers can be grown like this. So far, Tulips are the only example we have in Planet Coaster of a simple, small, modular set of flowers that can be used to make small flower beds.
 

wowman

wowman
So many flowers grow in a bunch, or a globe type configuration naturally, so when grouped together you can get this rolling hill effect, even in real mother nature. A perfect example of this would be mums (see the picture below). You could never get a flat flower bed look with this type of flower. In game, you can arrange the flowers by sinking and turning them to hide this effect for the ones that are a globe like format. See below for some beds I made with both more level flowers, and globe flowers (circled in blue). With a little work you can manipulate the positioning as you wish. Honestly, on this sample below, I didn't even really rotate or change them that much other than just sinking them in the ground a bit. Took about 2 minutes to make all these. Spend a little time, get the look you want, then save them as blueprints to use again in the future. Hope this helps.
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Zandy

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I totally agree with Materiagirl. There are still a big lack of floral. How about some daffodils, more tulpis and cherry blossom for spring. Rhododendron, lilac, rosos, lilis and gladiolus. All in different sizes and the option to recolor them all.
 

LN

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MateriaGirl said:
I think you misunderstood A. I'm not talkinga bout placing flowers. I mean each individual piece is just a random smattering of flowers. Nothing clean, nothing curated, nothing that looks like a gardener tends to it outside of spraying water on it sometimes. Each individual object is spread out and goofy looking.

As for B. I'd love to see your examples of flower beds that are low and flat to the ground with no rolling "hills" of flowers. If the bushes are all rounded and lumpy, there's no way to make them not appear that way.
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Don't get me wrong, I agree the choices of flora are a bit low, but with the coloring options and the stuff that is available. You can do a lot.

And I think the examples wowman supplied are well enough, and very basic. Imagine what you can do with even more flora added to that "mounds". Which I feel they are not.
 

cerealfruitcakes

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I need those Asian themed trees STAT. [big grin] I want to make a Japanese themed area so bad but without the appropriate flora I'm just not interested. I'm EAGERLY awaiting Asian themed flora.
 

MateriaGirl

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I'm building Hanamura Point A from Overwatch right now and having to use a freaking maple tree instead of cherry trees is killing me. It's not even close, it's just one of very few non-green trees. :\
 
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