Shame on you fdev

[GreyAreaUK]

My criticism is very constructive.

That's one opinion, yes.

 

[Guest 161958]

So once again you're back to telling people what they should or should not buy.

My advice would be to stop doing that.

Noted. I won't, because it is not telling people what to do. I simply share my opinion that doing otherwise will cause more half baked content in the years to come.

 

[Guest 161958]

That's one opinion, yes.

Depends on how the devs take it, IF they read it. Which I doubt after seeing how they handle ship kits.

 

[thistle]

no hyperbole, no accusations. ... My criticism is very constructive.

uhuh.
"Shame on you fdev"

 

[Guest 161958]

You are conflating 2 different things, and it's hilarious.

1) a developer seeing falling sales of a line of products, then potentially changing their output after investigation

2) a random throwing insults in a thread that the devs won't read

If the devs do not read it, then it means they cannot take criticism.

 

[thistle]

If the devs do not read it, then it means they cannot take criticism.

If they dont read it, how do you know what they can and cant take?

 

[Guest 161958]

uhuh.
"Shame on you fdev"

not an hyperbole to me. To me, 8 pounds for a bunch of triangles not connected to the main mesh and with shaders problem is something to be ashamed of. Accusation is a big word, I am criticizing their work.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Noted. I won't, because it is not telling people what to do. I simply share my opinion that doing otherwise will cause more half baked content in the years to come.

Oh, so you're not telling, you're just suggesting?

 

[Guest 161958]

If they dont read it, how do you know what they can and cant take?

I meant, if they refuse to read it, then it means they cannot take criticism.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

If the devs do not read it, then it means they cannot take criticism.

I sincerely hope the devs don't read the forums. I'd like the information to be filtered to them in a more constructive way than via forum tantrums.

 

[Guest 161958]

Oh, so you're not telling, you're just suggesting?

Suggesting that if you do not show the company you are not ok with the way they handle things, we all get worse content.

Did you notice the improvements in 3.3? That was because people complained and criticized.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Suggesting that if you do not show the company you are not ok with the way they handle things, we all get worse content.

Yeah, you can colour it any way you want but you're telling people not to buy ship kits in order to back up your little crusade.

 

[StuartGT]

no hyperbole, no accusations. You really are jumpy. I simply speak my mind. My criticism is very constructive.

 

[Enderby]

Some of the kit stuff does look a bit ropey. Nothing wrong with hoping that FD would sometimes put a bit more effort into them.

 

[S3B4ST13N]

As an aside, if you had perhaps gone with this:

Title: No happy with my cosmetic purchase
Body:
Hi Frontier,

I am not happy with my cosmetic purchases, in particular the ship kits.
I feel that the product provided is below the quality expected of Frontier Developments.
Unfortunately I cannot get a refund, so I have instead decided to let you know I'm not happy.

A number of things bother me with the kits, namely:

1. Ship kits aren't consistent (in both shader and geometry) with paintjobs.
2. Ship pieces are badly aligned, and are seemingly thrown in without any real attention to detail.
3. Compared to the rest of the ship, the quality of the pieces are far below the same level of quality and detail.

I ask that Frontier revisit existing ship kits or going forward make the necessary improvements to bring these cosmetics up to
the standard I, and probably many others, expect.

Regards,
Lex Fernetti

P.S: If any Cmdr would like to discuss this, please feel free to do so in a polite manner. Thanks

Instead of what you posted, people would be more sympathetic, understanding, or less inclined to climb on your back about it.

 

[thistle]

not an hyperbole to me. To me, 8 pounds for a bunch of triangles not connected to the main mesh and with shaders problem is something to be ashamed of. Accusation is a big word, I am criticizing their work.

You ARE saying they should be "ashamed", you DON'T think this is an "accusation", but you ARE "criticising"?

I don't think you've had much experience with shame, if you think fdev's ship kits are shameful.

 

[Guest 161958]

Yeah, you can colour it any way you want but you're telling people not to buy ship kits in order to back up your little crusade.

Colour? Crusade? You really are a white knight then!

 

[thistle]

Some of the kit stuff does look a bit ropey. Nothing wrong with hoping that FD would sometimes put a bit more effort into them.

And that's how someone might comment on the perceived problem reasonably.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Some of the kit stuff does look a bit ropey. Nothing wrong with hoping that FD would sometimes put a bit more effort into them.

And literally no-one is suggesting otherwise. Some of them do need fixing. It's just not a massive priority (although it could do with being bumped up the list a bit, given that they want people to buy them)

 

[Guest 161958]

As an aside, if you had perhaps gone with this:

Instead of what you posted, people would be more sympathetic, understanding, or less inclined to climb on your back about it.

You see, I do not care about people being sympathetic or understanding. I do not seek to change people's mind. I simply speak my mind. If you think about the issues I am trying to highlight and think again about it, then I am more than happy. Because accepting anything is taking its toll on the overall quality of this game.