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Dunno about the new flight model as i have yet to try it out but it LOOKS damn fun if they get some proper racing going.



Looked like a No Mans Sky video. Lots of overshooting, nearly hitting hills and a sense of enjoyment when the pilot managed to get close to something and not hit it
 
The first high end PC game to ever require A MIN 13.999 AKA FOURTEEN GIGABYTES OF RAM.:eek: From an INTERIOR LOCATION i.e. before experiencing the exterior known as the vacuum of space, any EVA-ship, PvP/FPS interactivity. With minimum player/NPC or other scripting processes running in the background. A min 14GB to run an unreliable DEMO. That is STILL IN PRE-ALPHA STAGE per Roberts decree.

The PC requirements and game play stats on this play through of 3.5 made me laucry


That's the bipolar emotional reaction one gets when their sense of sight is triggered by a visual stimulus. So profoundly visceral, that it involuntarily suspends rationale thought. And immediately induces a hysterical laughing spasm. Which soon begins to drown one in a flood tears, when the reality settles in on what it's going to take to make this game a reality on a PC platform.

At that average 25 fps, God Roberts should genuinely consider peddling his CI+/- G cyanide brand Kool Aide to the console market. Sell space jpgs to the tens of millions of console players. So he can make hundreds of millions in hedging against any losses/fallout from post 2020 SQ42 release delays. Especially given the reliability of the console platform which has a far SUPERIOR fps v. the high fidelity! groundbreaking, "never been done before" tech demo SC has now reinvented itself as to date.

Wonder if that youtuber got a free, high end, customized PC from Roberts just so they could promote the walkthrough? I still trying to find what upcoming/existing AAA or AA games on the PC market would run on high end specs like these. o_O

Some of the most devout SC fan bois are going to need some serious therapy once this Bernie Madoff Ponzi scheme finally runs out of new backers/investor money. And the Roberts brothers & their board of director crony friends will most likely end up on some anti-extradite, off shore tax shelter, private Banana Republic in the Caribbean thanks to backers pledge money. But hopefully by then, any such necessary fan boi therapy will be conducted on a shrink's couch, and not from a strait jacket in a Bellevue padded cell.

After 7 years, this is the return on investment backers get. An unfinished, unreliable, pre-alpha tech demo. Wow. Chris Roberts needing to be locked up for predatory marketing and embezzlement is a complete understatement.
 
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14 gigs useage is fairly tame compared to the 70+ gigs it gobbled back in - what was it - 2.2?

Mind you - even extreme RAM consumption wasn't nearly as funny as when it crashed and actually deleted itself. That was an absolute classic!
 
70 gigs. o_O Did the CPU try to overheat and kill itself, so it could put its motherboard out of the misery the end users were inflicting on their systems?

If that's the case, then this walk through is genuinely a technological break through. Seeing how it only crashed once with all that insane degree of background activity going on. Wonder what the average fps would drop to once a minimum of a dozen+ players all accessed the same station area. Especially seeing how the fps dropped by 4-6 fps every time the youtuber encountered/walked past another player.

Also why was there so few players in Area 18? Was this walk through on a private server? Or simply by default of other players being unable to fly to and access this new area? Because the latter appeared to be the case for several youtubers who live streamed multiple attempts to fly to Area 18. But kept crashing out of hyperspace for multiple reasons (unstable server/flight dynamics, an overheating feature that was recently added with this update etc).
 
I couldn't summon up the energy to fire up the PTU during all the 3.5 testing...I guess I'll find out in a week or so if there's any discernible difference between 3.4 and 3.5. From what I'm seeing elsewhere...everyone else playing in the PU will now be girls :whistle:
 
therapy will be conducted on a shrink's couch, and not from a strait jacket in a Bellevue padded cell.

After 7 years, this is the return on investment backers get. An unfinished, unreliable, pre-alpha tech demo. Wow. Chris Roberts needing to be locked up for predatory marketing and embezzlement is a complete understatement.

I remember when there were those early mentions of ED and SC both in a gaming article/video. At first I thought SC was actually going to be contender. Now it's been long realized much of those early detailed and impressive videos were done by Crytech for CIG where CR tried to imply were slice demo recordings. Now 7 or 8 years and $245+ million$ later, there are still those hapless backers who are either in the sunk cost fallacy pit and too late to get a refund, or still foolishly believe those past videos and demos were all real game developed slices. (remember the dune sandworm?) There's long been no more "vision", just borrowing or copping bits that other games are doing or have already done long ago and trying to pass them off as new, "never-before-seen" developments. i.e. CR&crew's "endgame" of trying to make their escape plans (over 10 shell companies and strange looking financials) of hoarding off and securing their siphoned off stashes on clawback dodging havens.
 
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I remember when there were those early mentions of ED and SC both in a gaming article/video. At first I thought SC was actually going to be contender.

Hah, me too.

I thought SC stood a chance, especially with the funding. Meanwhile, the Elite pick looked lackluster.

Didn't take long for me to change my mind. SC's helmet flip animation triggered me to think it was going to be style over substance and fancy demos, while ED was already moving in to alpha or beta(?).

Wasn't long before i was growing more and more skeptical of SC ever being anything good while i bought into ED.
 

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Hah, me too.

I thought SC stood a chance, especially with the funding. Meanwhile, the Elite pick looked lackluster.

Didn't take long for me to change my mind. SC's helmet flip animation triggered me to think it was going to be style over substance and fancy demos, while ED was already moving in to alpha or beta(?).

Wasn't long before i was growing more and more skeptical of SC ever being anything good while i bought into ED.

Similar case here. I actually backed SC in 2013 due to all the imminence hype about Arena Commander targeting December that year for release (trying to compete with Elite’s announced alpha I presume), and also due to the (with hindsight predatory) hype and FOMO related to the end of LTI (lol end of LTI... if only). I was indeed very crowdfund-naive at the time and of course I was expecting the AC module to be delivered as announced, there was no question in my mind. If a serious company has announced with full trumpets that a product will be released at certain date it means it will indeed happen righ?

And then I witnessed CIG’s very awkward first major bait and switch (of many more to come) and delay communicated barely days ahead of the targeted dates end of 2013 and predicated on the basis of some nonsensical network refactoring (the first of many to come...) required and to ensure a product to CR high standards. And that is when I woke up.

As it happened 6-7 months later the actual release was still really abysmal with not even true 6DoF in.

Before that I was actually of the opinion that SC would be a much better game than Elite. I never played the original Elite series so ED only came to my attention when a British friend mentioned it to me in early 2014. It was perfect timing as I then bought into the Premium Beta and was really impressed with the quality and very fluid initial missions, solid flight model/cockpit experience and the mini galaxy. I still remember the “wow” sound I uttered after seeing 1:1 size planetary rings up close...

The misleading marketing and delays by CIG from that point on only worsened, and the rest, in my case, is history.
 
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15 minutes of touching various topics and his own thoughts. I guess you can listen to it while you are in Quantum travel on your way "to the fun".

FTR has become my favorite video creator when it comes to SC. He had his phase of burning down SC and CI-G and since then turned to a tester/observer who is able to praise good attempts or ideas while at the same time being able to express "how it is". No need for sugarcoating, explaining or excusing the company...something I m really tired of and which can trigger me easily when I watch shills at work. Anyway...back to the routine :)
 
Similar case here. I actually backed SC in 2013 due to all the imminence hype about Arena Commander targeting December that year for release (trying to compete with Elite’s announced alpha I presume), and also due to the (with hindsight predatory) hype and FOMO related to the end of LTI (lol end of LTI... if only). I was indeed very crowdfund-naive at the time and of course I was expecting the AC module to be delivered as announced, there was no question in my mind. If a serious company has announced with full trumpets that a product will be released at certain date it means it will indeed happen righ?

And then I witnessed CIG’s very awkward first major bait and switch (of many more to come) and delay communicated barely days ahead of the targeted dates end of 2013 and predicated on the basis of some nonsensical network refactoring (the first of many to come...) required and to ensure a product to CR high standards. And that is when I woke up.

As it happened 6-7 months later the actual release was still really abysmal with not even true 6DoF in.

Before that I was actually of the opinion that SC would be a much better game than Elite. I never played the original Elite series so ED only came to my attention when a British friend mentioned it to me in early 2014. It was perfect timing as I then bought into the Premium Beta and was really impressed with the quality and very fluid initial missions, solid flight model/cockpit experience and the mini galaxy. I still remember the “wow” sound I uttered after seeing 1:1 size planetary rings up close...

The misleading marketing and delays by CIG from that point on only worsened, and the rest, in my case, is history.
Yep also here....same as you I also get into the SC at the end of 2013 expecting that the AC is going to be something special and ready in a matter of days...heh...we all know how that finished...soon I realized that Croberts just deceiving his backers while his getting more&more time&money....I still have just my original game-package and I play SC from time to time posting it in here my harsh but honest critic about the game progress.....
 
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Yep also here....same as you I also get into the SC at the end of 2013 expecting that the AC is going to be something special and ready in a matter of days...heh...we all know how that finished...soon I realized that Croberts just deceiving his backers while his getting more&more time....I still have just my original game-package and I play SC from time to time posting it in here my harsh but honest critic about the game progress.....
I got on board on day one in 2012 expecting to get hands on the "gameplay demo" the conman happily presented to the press, which was MIA immediately after the initial KS campaign ended. Thanks to the copyright lawsuit we now know it was just a fake reel made by CryTek. After realizing the whole operation was run in the same manner over the course of three years, I finally bailed out in 2015 when they cut the "anniversary" cake.

The cake was a lie.

The time passed since then is now longer than the period I was a backer of the project. So the term "delay" doesn't work anymore for me. My impression is that original backers still with the project are a very small minority. Instead they were looking for new victims to string them along for a few years until those give up as well (without getting back their money).

Since this strategy seemingly stopped working in early 2018, investor money had to come in to save the day. Now it's interesting to see how this plays out. I'm not going to put any money into this, pre- or post-release.
 
Hah, me too.

I thought SC stood a chance, especially with the funding. Meanwhile, the Elite pick looked lackluster.

Didn't take long for me to change my mind. SC's helmet flip animation triggered me to think it was going to be style over substance and fancy demos, while ED was already moving in to alpha or beta(?).

Wasn't long before i was growing more and more skeptical of SC ever being anything good while i bought into ED.

Same here. I backed both games, and I expected SC to be my primary game, with ED being the secondary one for nostalgic reasons. Time passed, Elite Dangerous hit Alpha, and I liked what I'd seen so much that I upgraded to Alpha access (the LEP was just icing on the cake) and got so disgusted with SC, especially the numerous shell companies, that I got my money out of that disaster while I still could. I like to think that the fact that I could point out I'd never played it even once, and was thus still under the original TOS, helped quite a bit.

The rest is history.

Still hoping that someday SC will be worth playing, but I won't be paying full price for it. But should it be on sale for under $20, I might be tempted to pick it up. After all, that's what I did with No Man's Sky, and now it'll be getting VR support. :)
 

15 minutes of touching various topics and his own thoughts. I guess you can listen to it while you are in Quantum travel on your way "to the fun".

FTR has become my favorite video creator when it comes to SC. He had his phase of burning down SC and CI-G and since then turned to a tester/observer who is able to praise good attempts or ideas while at the same time being able to express "how it is". No need for sugarcoating, explaining or excusing the company...something I m really tired of and which can trigger me easily when I watch shills at work. Anyway...back to the routine :)

Haha, he doesn't pull any punches, ill say that. I cracked up when he talked about CR's post on the topic of QT.

Ice fence at 6:35... its a bit thin to be called an ice wall.
 
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Similar story for me backing this initially. I'd actually not heard of the Elite remake when I'd backed SC. I bought my X52 pro in anticipation of playing SC and backed it straight away at a modest level. Then ED came onto my radar and I backed it at the £200 level.

Thoroughly enjoyed ED for many years, well worth the price for me, and refunded my £340 SC money in 2016. I still giggle now and then at the email trail from support at CIG towers at the time. Especially the part where they said I'd lose all extras and that the final product was just upon us!!

Bare faced lies doesn't cover it.
 

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I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
I backed SC during the initial Kickstarter. Like a few here SC was my favorite between it and Elite at the time. I was a big fan of Chris' work on the Wing Commander series, and Privateer was one of my favorite space trading/combat games of the 90s. My interest in Elite skyrocketed quickly, with me backing up to the Alpha level before long. I still loved the idea of SC, though, and was totally on board with Chris' vision for the first few years. Hell I even visited CIG's offices in LA twice. I ate lunch with the team. Even bought Chris a hamburger. lol. On the spectrum of super-fans, I was definitely up there.

There wasn't a single event that really shook my confidence, but probably around 2016 I really began to question the direction of the project. Delays piled up, predatory marketing became the norm, original ships were devalued, teaser trailers that bore no resemblance to the actual game were common.... It became increasingly obvious that CIG was mismanaging the project. The game that Chris was chasing became something different than what I backed back in 2012. I began to question why I was even staying invested. In late 2017 I refunded and walked.

I still love the ships CIG make and the overall look of the universe. The new 300i is beautiful. (Although I wish they'd just put those artists to work on the game instead of constantly reworking existing assets). There are some wonderful ideas there, but my confidence in CIG to pull it off is pretty much flat. If they make an awesome game I'll be right there with an open wallet.
 
Don't know what to make of this guy. Kind of hard to tell if he's really sincere about kicking his gambling habit. Motivating fan boys on the fence about leaving SC. Says he's one of those few super SC fan boys who was in very deep. Makes one wonder if he was one of the dedicated few who were willing to go days without food? Just so they could afford upgrading and/or buying better ship jpgs. But it's admirable the amount of personal courage it took to admit he's a reformed SC cultist addict. Yet appears to be thin skinned and gets catty with any feedback he perceives as dissenting views in the comments. Goes on the offensive and threatens ppl by saying he'll report them and delete their comments for what he perceives as personal attacks 😆

Cult SC is Real Pt 1:

Says the fan base needs to start holding CR accountable. Then goes on a mooch spree asking for donations to make a "movie" called "SC the movie saga" ? His gofundme page is still sitting at $20/$50,000 to date. Lord. The only other place where I suspect to encounter such detrimental, passive-aggressive attitudes is on the SC subreddit. Are all "recovering" SC addicts like this? o_O

A Call to action SC 2019

wonder if his account has been deleted on the CI forum yet?
 
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