Not allowed. Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
Elite Dangerous is not a Game you own, its a Service
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Allowed =! able.
I don't have to get used to anything. As I already wrote I don't enjoy any of these "services".
I don't know, if these "services" fall flat, just because they are GaaS or if it's just a coincidence.
I doubt I'm going to be "out of luck", as the tangible physical and standalone digital copies of video games I already own can fill multiple lifetimes. If they stop making those (which I doubt), I just close my wallet and that's it. That's the advantage over GaaS which can be shut down at any time to force you into paying for new services.
I think you are just failing to understand what i'm saying.
Let me try rephrasing. Basically GaaS isn't going away, like it or loathe it. That is all.
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Buy the company. Then you own Elite Dangerous.
Until then you just have a pass to access the server.
We own nothing. Deal with it.
Until then you just have a pass to access the server.
We own nothing. Deal with it.
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So you don't find Elite Dangerous fun to play?
In the video in the OP you own your copy of ED and access to it under the EU consumer laws. Which supercedes Frontier's EULA, it is a little more fuzzy on US laws.
If ED was a subscription based game then you would be correct.
For some reason I'm entirely immune to skinner boxes.
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If that's the case then the court cases when the servers shut down are gonna' be interesting.
How large do you think that database would be? It's only text data and you can have a lot of that in a few kilobits.
Okay then, let's assume the DB table is 1 kb for every star system in the stellar forge. 400 000 000 000 kb = 400 000 GB. And that's not counting for backups, indices, whatnot. Also "it's only text data" does not really fly in a database, you know. No matter if it's noSQL or old school relational, you still will need to create the table or document structure, you will need a PK that can sufficiently work with rows of this magnitude, and I'm pretty sure you won't use a single text field for all that. So 1kb for every row was pretty generous from me.
The whole point of using Procedural generation is you don't need a database of 400 billion stars
And what about the inhabited systems? BSG States, Faction controls, economic data is not procedurally generated. You still need to store that somewhere, for each of those systems. So yes, we could say that 80% of the starfield does not need a persistant state (which is also not true, because as soon as someone discovers it, the discovery information needs to go somewhere) but you still need a database for everything else.
Did you see who the
is?
None other than Star Citizen YouTube Lawyer Leonard J. French. A lawyer so good he asks for Patreon donations.
And if you want to fly around a dead static galaxy like, say, FE2, and not even remember where you've been, that's all you need.
You "own" the physical aspect, like a DVD, and a bunch of paper and cardboard and you have some rights to that that vary by country and the judge you end up in front of. You do not "own" the information on there, not the data comprising the game, nor the words and pictures printed on the packaging and in the manual. All the title you have to that is the usual nonexclusive, revocable, often non-global and non-transferable license that you need to agree to before using the software, and if you do that, you are agreeing to enter a contract with the publisher. Parts of that contract may not be enforceable, but a court will at first hold you accountable for it until you can prove that your use of the licensed property falls within the intersection of the contract and applicable law, and you will have to pay for that up-front.
We could say even more stars won’t need to be included - this time last year FD tweeted that we’d explored 0.028% of the galaxy so far.
The BGS in unvisited systems sort of tails off into a steady state (please someone correct me if I’m wrong), so with just one player I’m sure our computers could handle it. If I remember correctly from the networking video, the BGS is mentioned to be “running on a couple of cores” in the background.
Digital goods not provided as a subscription service are still goods. The same consumer rights apply as it would say a microwave oven. If that company came to your house and removed or damaged the motor to the microwave (without providing the consumer the means or instructions to fix it), then that would violate consumer laws in the EU. Per the video at least, sources cited along with it.
That whole fallacy of mixing up physical goods, immaterial goods, and services aside (a piece of software is not and has never been a car, microwave, or hammer), you explicitly agreed, among other things, to this: