What is keeping you from playing those games?
Please don't grief me on the forums in this manner.
I'll have to have you kicked.
I wrote this yesterday and I need to clarify it a little bit.
Yes, last night I did in fact make 2 million in bounty vouchers.
I made a million + in two different runs but in each case I developed a bad case of Anaconda envy (1) and died.
If anyone finds a couple of packs of bounty vouchers flittering around near Decait 1 - gosh, if you could get them back to me that would be awesome.
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1: Anaconda Envy: I DON'T CARE WHAT IT COSTS THIS #$%#@! ANACONDA IS GOING DOWN IN FLAMES, THE #@$%! PIECE OF #$%@!.
How on earth am I going to maintain my reputation for "Most Clueless Poster Ever" if you keep offering up high quality material like this?
The more I read your material the more I come to suspect that you've next to no history with online gaming.
A while back Harry Potter, a notorious PK, posted a screenshot of his rebuy screen.
If I recall correctly, his rebuy was north of 200 million credits - such that with a 10 million loan he was still 70 million short.
So when you suggest a 10% loss of all assets upon death you're suggesting less than what some of these guys pay.
If the screenshot is to be believed, he didn't loose 10%, he lost somewhere in the neighborhood of 120% of his assets.
I'm sure he has other ships - but come on already, regardless the man took a hit for his crimes.
To my knowledge, Harry Potter, after taking 10x the loss you suggest, has not left the game.
You not only don't understand the word 'griefer' but you don't have any idea of what you're talking about on any level.
Ahoy matey!
Aye, without a shot!
Never heard of 'em.
Elegant?
This is Piracy mate. Not ****ing ballet.
Post up your vids, show us how it's done!
Not sure what you want from me then.
If you Pirate like the Video then your doing something I would consider Perfectly Fine.
And if that Commander would not have Complied I would have Killed him.
As easy as that.
This is not Griefing and I would never Suggest that what happens in that Video is Griefing.
Moreover what are you Complaining about ^^
Your not using a Drone there yourself. ^^
As for not hearing about us. We have Stopped Existing Years Ago.
I havnt gone Pirating for at least 3 Years now.
But from what the Video Shows nothing has really Changed. lol
Nothing ?
How would I know these Games if I didnt Play them ????
Am I limited to only Play a Single Game or something ?????
I am just Refuting the Statement of Someone who Claimed that Griefing would be Normal and that all Games are like this.
Because its not True. There is much Harder Games like ED which Deal with Griefing Perfectly Fine.
Sure Mate.
I am just around Playing online Games since nearly 20 Years.
And Maybe you Should Read what I said.
10% loss of your Assets on Top of your Rebuy.
So the Difference would Simply be that if he had around 150 Million he would have been 15 Million more North of this 200 Million.
So he took 0.9x the Loss that I Suggest
And in my Suggestion he would likely have been Killed much Earlier.
Because he could not have Parked his Ship with that Bounty somewhere and Just Play Normally in Between.
If this was a Hardcore Game. He would have been with that Bounty on his Head at all Times without Exception.
Not able to just Park his Hunted Ship Somewhere and then go Nicely about his Normal Business until the Next time he takes out his Ship to go Killing People
Thing is Mate.
He racked up this Rebuy over Months.
His rebuy of 200 Million means that he likely Cost others a combined 2 Billion Credits already.
In a Hardcore Game.
Where he could never have Played without that Bounty on his Head due to not being able to just Change Ship.
Chances are that he would have been Killed like 10 Times in that Timeframe.
Each Time Paying 10% of his Whole Assets.
In Short. He would likely never have Managed to get this Rebuy Screen in the First Place.
And he would likely have Quit over a Month ago as he would have been Downgraded to a Small Ship several Times.
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For the sake of this discussion your 19 years experience with Scrabble Online doesn't count.
No, his rebuy cost was a tiny fraction of his costs.And Maybe you Should Read what I said.
10% loss of your Assets on Top of your Rebuy.
So the Difference would Simply be that if he had around 150 Million he would have been 15 Million more North of this 200 Million.
So he took 0.9x the Loss that I Suggest
And in my Suggestion he would likely have been Killed much Earlier.
Because he could not have Parked his Ship with that Bounty somewhere and Just Play Normally in Between.
If this was a Hardcore Game. He would have been with that Bounty on his Head at all Times without Exception.
His fines (not the cost of the ship purchase) were 200 million+ IIRC.
He could easily rebuy his ship many times without scratching the tip of his fortune, but the legal fines alone were easily 10x what you've suggested.
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His Rebuy thus was North of 200 Million.
Because your Rebuy Includes the Fines and Bounties upon your Death.
You cant Pay it so you cant Rebuy.
And Again Mate.
How many Months did he need to gather all these Fines ?
How did he Survive so Long that he could gather all these Fines ?
The Answer is.
ED was Holding his Hand.
Allowing him to Just Park his Ship in a Safe Position on a Pirate Station and then Fly away with a Different Ship.
Thus his Gameplay being Completely Unaffected by his Bounty.
And him only needing to take out his Hunted Ship when he actually went around Killing People.
Notice the Problem ?
How are you an Outlaw when you can just go ahead and Park your Bounty in a Lawless Station and then go on Playing Normally ?
This Game is about as Hardcore as the Single Player in GTA lol
Not sure what you want from me then.
If you Pirate like the Video then your doing something I would consider Perfectly Fine.
And if that Commander would not have Complied I would have Killed him.
As easy as that.
This is not Griefing and I would never Suggest that what happens in that Video is Griefing.
Moreover what are you Complaining about ^^
Your not using a Drone there yourself. ^^
As for not hearing about us. We have Stopped Existing Years Ago.
I havnt gone Pirating for at least 3 Years now.
But from what the Video Shows nothing has really Changed. lol
Nothing ?
How would I know these Games if I didnt Play them ????
Am I limited to only Play a Single Game or something ?????
I am just Refuting the Statement of Someone who Claimed that Griefing would be Normal and that all Games are like this.
Because its not True. There is much Harder Games like ED which Deal with Griefing Perfectly Fine.
Sure Mate.
I am just around Playing online Games since nearly 20 Years.
And Maybe you Should Read what I said.
10% loss of your Assets on Top of your Rebuy.
So the Difference would Simply be that if he had around 150 Million he would have been 15 Million more North of this 200 Million.
So he took 0.9x the Loss that I Suggest
And in my Suggestion he would likely have been Killed much Earlier.
Because he could not have Parked his Ship with that Bounty somewhere and Just Play Normally in Between.
If this was a Hardcore Game. He would have been with that Bounty on his Head at all Times without Exception.
Not able to just Park his Hunted Ship Somewhere and then go Nicely about his Normal Business until the Next time he takes out his Ship to go Killing People
Thing is Mate.
He racked up this Rebuy over Months.
His rebuy of 200 Million means that he likely Cost others a combined 2 Billion Credits already.
In a Hardcore Game.
Where he could never have Played without that Bounty on his Head due to not being able to just Change Ship.
Chances are that he would have been Killed like 10 Times in that Timeframe.
Each Time Paying 10% of his Whole Assets.
In Short. He would likely never have Managed to get this Rebuy Screen in the First Place.
And he would likely have Quit over a Month ago as he would have been Downgraded to a Small Ship several Times.
Annoying use of Caps makes me Want to Dismiss the Possibility of Valid Arguments.
Not sure what you want from me then.
If you Pirate like the Video then your doing something I would consider Perfectly Fine.
And if that Commander would not have Complied I would have Killed him.
As easy as that.
This is not Griefing and I would never Suggest that what happens in that Video is Griefing.
Moreover what are you Complaining about ^^
Your not using a Drone there yourself. ^^
As for not hearing about us. We have Stopped Existing Years Ago.
I havnt gone Pirating for at least 3 Years now.
But from what the Video Shows nothing has really Changed. lol
Nothing ?
How would I know these Games if I didnt Play them ????
Am I limited to only Play a Single Game or something ?????
I am just Refuting the Statement of Someone who Claimed that Griefing would be Normal and that all Games are like this.
Because its not True. There is much Harder Games like ED which Deal with Griefing Perfectly Fine.
Sure Mate.
I am just around Playing online Games since nearly 20 Years.
And Maybe you Should Read what I said.
10% loss of your Assets on Top of your Rebuy.
So the Difference would Simply be that if he had around 150 Million he would have been 15 Million more North of this 200 Million.
So he took 0.9x the Loss that I Suggest
And in my Suggestion he would likely have been Killed much Earlier.
Because he could not have Parked his Ship with that Bounty somewhere and Just Play Normally in Between.
If this was a Hardcore Game. He would have been with that Bounty on his Head at all Times without Exception.
Not able to just Park his Hunted Ship Somewhere and then go Nicely about his Normal Business until the Next time he takes out his Ship to go Killing People
The fact you can use interstellar factors for bribing the authorities to clear bounties should be enough of a hint to you as to what kind of game Elite is. Members of the Pilots Federation are effectively above the law. This is by design.
Personally I would rather see player-driven solutions, definitely make bounty hunting more viable. Give them ways to track outlaws and such.
The point was that his rebuy wasn't just the cost of his ship.
He didn't pay cost of ship + 10% as you suggested.
He paid cost of ship +1000% or more.
And Again Mate.
How many Months did he need to gather all these Fines ?
How did he Survive so Long that he could gather all these Fines ?
Immaterial.
Your idea of hand holding is a rebuy plus a 200 million fine?
I don't care if he's out in his mining ship trying to fetch enough void opals to afford a 70 million deficit.
Looks like a good opportunity for some ED justice, IMHO.
Well, I might need to be schooled here a little bit.
Are you saying he can just abandon his Anaconda and the 200 million fine and jump in another ship and run off free?
Even if that was the case he'd still have to build up another ship and run through the engineering grind.
That is a great deal of non-PvP work - which seems like a pretty thorough punishment.
I like to see the ability to track players with a high notoriety.
I'd also like to see the ability of players (lawful) to hire significant NPC forces to accompany them.
Didnt we used to have an “invite to wing” menu option for NPCs a long time ago?
Not that it did anything, but I’m almost positive it was there...
Not that it did anything, but I’m almost positive it was there...
Zero months.
You are such an Abed (yes, i'm watching Community reruns hehe)
I don't know the show but I did a brief Google. Seems like a cool guy?
Abed would get the reference, so.. that makes you a Jeff Winger
Abed would get the reference, so.. that makes you a Jeff Winger
I like the character in this music video. Let's use him.
(And before anyone starts screaming about my ego... watch it.
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