I'm not sure I understand. Where do I suggest to make it "cool"? And what am I suggesting to make cool?
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Cheating in Elite Dangerous
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I'm not sure I understand. Where do I suggest to make it "cool"? And what am I suggesting to make cool?
MDH
Sounds like advocation for an offline single-player version of the game
Sounds like advocation for an offline single-player version of the game
Hm... Deja Vu
You draw your line in the sand, I'll draw mine. Habitually instance flipping to gain favourable odds is no different to the 5-for-1 engineering exploit which was punished by removing the affected assets, or mission board flipping, which was closed. It is another loophole that needs to be fixed.
I agree that script kiddies are a pain and that hacking the game to gain an advantage is a problem that there should be internal tools to capture.
But one is a player trust issue that is beyond the complete control of the devs (ie they would need to close the loopholes and punish the accounts), others are entirely within FDev's control (instance switching, combat logging etc) and the game rules can be adjusted to eliminate them.
Both types are important. Loopholes, cheats & exploits do not stop being loopholes, cheats & exploits just because they are endemic.
Fair enough, but besides my point. Their architecture is a completely other matter, and one that sadly wont be changed. I was talking punishments, not fixes.
But I do get your point of fact on how they are or not able to catch the hackers
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You think Fdev will go banning with out proof? When have they ever done that? I have been playing mmo since they came out. And hacking the client has always been a perma ban offence. Regardless of the game.
Technically nothing, other than the requirements of time, skill and lack of ethics on your part - but the same would be true if it was encrypted, it would just require a little bit more reverse-engineering on your part.
Encryption is a defence against 3rd parties intercepting and reading or modifying a transmission. It's not an effective defence against a legitimate party to the communication (say, a copy of Elite Dangerous) going rogue or being compromised, because the legitimate parties by definition and by necessity are able to decrypt the encrypted data.
Make cheating open-only!
Wot no threat of unfettered aggression towards the player base?
This campaign is destined to fail without it. You guys are losing your touch
This campaign is destined to fail without it. You guys are losing your touch
Dark Souls also has a peer to peer structure and FromSoft softbanned Cheaters by forcing them to a cheater-only matchmaking system. The statistics of all our ships seem to be saved on Frontiers servers (otherwise Inara wouldn't work?), so they should at least be able to identify some impossible configurations and impossible actions in game.
I'd say ban cheaters to a cheater only matchmaking, that will create a wholly uncomfortable but difficult to notice experience and also lock them out of bgs and pp transactions
I'd say ban cheaters to a cheater only matchmaking, that will create a wholly uncomfortable but difficult to notice experience and also lock them out of bgs and pp transactions
Question is Guys and Gals, How long has OA been a member of SDC?
He's a dark horse.
He's a dark horse.
Are you unaware that literally every other online multiplayer game SOMEHOW has a functional anti-cheat but Elite doesn't? How do you think those get built and implemented?
There are teams for each game who has the sole job of doing stuff like this. Welcome to the game industry.
But this is my point, as a copy of Elite Dangerous ON A CONSOLE cannot be compromised, thus the only way to cheat* on my platform is to modify the data stream, and decrypting a truly encrypted data stream is not trivial AT ALL.
* I'm not talking about exploits and mode-flipping, but actual "hacking / cheating" as identified by the OP.
FD used statistical analysis to find people exploiting engineering flaws, could they do the same for telemetry in game? A non force shell 600m/s Corvette is going to be instantly fishy.
I suppose the next question would be does FD automatically filter telemetry and flag anything out of spec?
I suppose the next question would be does FD automatically filter telemetry and flag anything out of spec?
FDEV has a "anti-cheater" team. What exactly they do besides follow-up on CLog reports, I have no idea.
This should therefore be noticeable on serverside. This should be enough to ban someone, if frontier creates a simple action legality check on their side?
Jump hacks are almost always detectable.
Rinzler o7o7o7
Banned
What's funny is that you think this team actually exists.
Are they included in the 100+ minus MB, EL & SS
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