How to avoid Gankers.

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I doubt you care, but who wants to play with someone that uses the block function in this manner? Just hop into Solo or Private Group and save yourself the shame of demonstrating your overwhelming sense of entitlement to the rest of us. Or if you must abuse the block function do so quietly.

Play your own way, let them play theirs. Any player can block any other player for any reason or no reason, just as any player can attack any other player for any reason or no reason.
 
Only people I manage to block are my mates. I think its too easy to block people, needs an "Are you sure" confirmation. Well I do anyway.

About all I can add really, OP is happy, some people are not. Personally I do not care who blocks who. Seems a natural way for different play styles all to exist in open at the same time.

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Didn't avoid gankers yesterday, but seeked them out (disclaimer: PvP, apart from running away, is new to me, so this was a test for me and my ship which I didn't expect to pass, but I always wanted to know how well/badly I'd do).

Current CG Interstellar Initiative didn't disappoint - people getting their ships exploded while in their SRVs (despite me warning them to dismiss it only a minute earlier, hope the lesson has been learned), and spending most of the afternoon playing cat and mouse both planetside and occasionally in SC with a small magician's gang who hogged the local Guardian site with half a dozen or so ships.

Initially I observed the mayhem a few kms away from the safety and comfort of my SRV while gathering mats, quite a pretty laser show by the way.

Eventually another squadron (can't remember their handle unfortunately) arrived and chased them away, gankers came back and I joined said squadron in combating them.

At some point I had to leg it because they got me down to 65% hull, only because they sprung a surprise attack on us (including spamming force shell, making me almost chunder all over the cockpit - I asked for them to stop it as it made me dizzy, but they didn't - how rude!). After a brief repair/restock trip I returned and the gankers legged it already at that stage.

So we stayed for a while at the site, while several explorers arrived in their ships nervously asking whether it was safe, and who could ultimately go about their business of gathering goodies.

Haven't had so much fun in ages - and you know what the best aspect of all this was for me? I was flying a Cobra Mk3. And not suffering a single rebuy in the end.
 
If you're really that worried about getting ganked then you need to go out and purchase a PS4. You'll be able to fly in open 100% of the time and be guaranteed that you'll only see the odd player here and there.
 
Wow, why is this thread still ongoing xD

It wasnt meant to be taken seriously as i stated multiple times.
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Last Saturday, late evening I'm came back to Deciat for some FSD engineering in my iCourier. I had bad memories about this place becouse some time ago I was badly ganked two times in a row.
But this time when I jumped into the system I immediately flew up, above the plane of the system. Then I've docked ship at the small outpost. From there I flew to Fasreer Inc but jumped from the orbital flight about 30-40 km from the Farseer base. And then I took an excellent ride, through canyons, very close to the ground, sometimes 50 meter above the ground. With full throttle. And finally I safely docked at Farseer. Two ships were flying high above the base. One guy could be a ganker. His avatar looks like bad guy :D. There were a few other ships docked. One CMDR sent o7 in local comms. I've replied.
After upgrade I've left the base the same way. Very close to the ground, through the canyon.
For me, amazing gameplay. Very nice emotions, some andrenaline. Without this danger I would fly into a Farseer Inc eating a sandwich. Boredom.
After all I wasn't ganked this time. Maybe all gankers are now in those new Community Goal places.
 
Last Saturday, late evening I'm came back to Deciat for some FSD engineering in my iCourier. I had bad memories about this place becouse some time ago I was badly ganked two times in a row.
But this time when I jumped into the system I immediately flew up, above the plane of the system. Then I've docked ship at the small outpost. From there I flew to Fasreer Inc but jumped from the orbital flight about 30-40 km from the Farseer base. And then I took an excellent ride, through canyons, very close to the ground, sometimes 50 meter above the ground. With full throttle. And finally I safely docked at Farseer. Two ships were flying high above the base. One guy could be a ganker. His avatar looks like bad guy :D. There were a few other ships docked. One CMDR sent o7 in local comms. I've replied.
After upgrade I've left the base the same way. Very close to the ground, through the canyon.
For me, amazing gameplay. Very nice emotions, some andrenaline. Without this danger I would fly into a Farseer Inc eating a sandwich. Boredom.
After all I wasn't ganked this time. Maybe all gankers are now in those new Community Goal places.

It's a shame this attitude isn't more commonplace in the community... Unfortunately most just associate hostility with toxicity. Without it however you would never get scenarios like this one.
 
Naw, I just enjoy the interdictions into blocked instances. Then someone sends a false flag report to FD for a "pulled the plug". It goes through the system, maybe it gets looked at maybe it doesn't. Time wasted all around!
 
It's a shame this attitude isn't more commonplace in the community... Unfortunately most just associate hostility with toxicity. Without it however you would never get scenarios like this one.

Yeah. You get toxic behaviour at both ends though, couldn't really say which is worse. The ones that get wound up & jump to conclusions or the ones that go out of their way to be as irritating as possible.
 
It's a shame this attitude isn't more commonplace in the community... Unfortunately most just associate hostility with toxicity. Without it however you would never get scenarios like this one.
Most? There are some very loud cries here and there that you describe, but the vast majority of players does play in open and therefore looking for a bit of adrenaline rush.
 
Most? There are some very loud cries here and there that you describe, but the vast majority of players does play in open and therefore looking for a bit of adrenaline rush.

Well whether it's actually the majority or the minority is hard to tell.. Bad reactions to random PvP encounters are pretty common though.

Back when I was quite new to the game, when I first got killed by a player it dawned on me how badly I was outfitting my ships and how under-prepared for player-attack I was, so I made a conscious effort to learn and get better at ED. Players generally react in two ways to unsolicited PvP:
  • A) They seek advice on tactics and builds, then adapt to hostile player scenarios accordingly, be it fighting back, defensive builds or evasion tactics
  • B) They get upset and attempt to remove the threat from their game without looking at their own mistakes/wrong assumptions/low skill
Now of course you can go down either route, but group A players usually end up far more accomplished at the game than group B, who will usually remain at a pretty noobish level indefinitely.
 
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My advice for dealing with 'gankers' is have a few drinks and lighten up. Oh, and carry weapons.

Honestly, if an experienced commander is intent on offing commander with less experience, there's very little one can do about it.

Maybe hit the onionhead for an infusion of paranoia.
CArry a few weapons vs a custom engineered gank de lance won’t help. That’s the issue. If you hear gankers like Ryan_17 on that video about the new hack, they are not interested in any kind of fair fight when they gank. Self-described griefers enjoy destroying helpless players. That’s the definition of ganking. Now if you can do a community goal in you best pvp ship, great, but if you are in a PVE rig, the OPs advice is excellent. Or play in a private group.

In WoW, PvP servers used to be a thing and they were fun because you could do your questing always equipped for PvP. Just doesn’t work that way in ED.

For WoW there were PVE servers for people who did not want to be banked. There is no official PVE mode in ED, you can try Mobius or other PVE private groups but they may not be as populated and no game rule set prevents ganking in them.

I won’t bother with the blocking, it’s too much trouble, I just haven’t flown in open since engineers were introduced.

But it’s valid advice for people who do want to fly in open and minimize griefing
 
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Well whether it's actually the majority or the minority is hard to tell.. Bad reactions to random PvP encounters are pretty common though.

Back when I was quite new to the game, when I first got killed by a player it dawned on me how badly I was outfitting my ships and how under-prepared for player-attack I was, so I made a conscious effort to learn and get better at ED. Players generally react in two ways to unsolicited PvP:
  • A) They seek advice on tactics and builds, then adapt to hostile player scenarios accordingly, be it fighting back, defensive builds or evasion tactics
  • B) They get upset and attempt to remove the threat from their game without looking at their own mistakes/wrong assumptions/low skill
Now of course you can go down either route, but group A players usually end up far more accomplished at the game than group B, who will usually remain at a pretty noobish level indefinitely.
It's a fact that we're "the majority ... by a significant margin". As 2 game modes exist that enable players to completely avoid any non-consensual PvP (there are PvP private groups that allow consensual PvP), I really can't fathom people that play in open and throw gross insults at PvP players.

I'll (mis)quote one ED book author: "The greatest monsters aren't those that do atrocities, the greatest monsters are those that do nothing about it", although it's really childish to talk about atrocities in normal game play. People that see gankers as evil have some problems in distinguishing game and reality. Following that line of logic, my chess opponent is a [redacted] [redacted] that should be [redacted]. ;)

My mom played chess with since I was 6 and she never let me won. Was she a seal clubber?
 
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