New to Exploration and I am Confused

Just a quick question about the credits value of planets shown in the picture...

I brought my 3rd acc out to Sothis and fiddled around with the DSS and obviously probed the two eartlikes but a quick look at UC showed only about 430k Cr and not 1,12M Cr. !? Is that correct, or does it make a difference, too if I'm (naturally) not the first one to fire probes on these ELWs ? The B5 water world shows up with nearly the correct value though. A bit more but maybe that depends on that odd efficiency bonus !?

Oh, and a second question. Is there any way to switch off that lightblue grid after having scanned a planet with the DSS ? That looks so damn ugly… :-(
 

Flossy

Volunteer Moderator
Just a quick question about the credits value of planets shown in the picture...

I brought my 3rd acc out to Sothis and fiddled around with the DSS and obviously probed the two eartlikes but a quick look at UC showed only about 430k Cr and not 1,12M Cr. !? Is that correct, or does it make a difference, too if I'm (naturally) not the first one to fire probes on these ELWs ? The B5 water world shows up with nearly the correct value though. A bit more but maybe that depends on that odd efficiency bonus !?

Oh, and a second question. Is there any way to switch off that lightblue grid after having scanned a planet with the DSS ? That looks so damn ugly… :-(
The ELWs etc in Sothis will have been 'discovered' long ago which is why the payment is lower for FSS & DSS only. As for the grid, the only way I know of is to switch to combat mode if you want screenshots.... otherwise the grid stays - at least for now, could be fixed in a future update possibly?
 

Flossy

Volunteer Moderator
Is everyone mapping all the planets they discover? I only bother with the interesting ones for landing on (photo ops) and the earthlikes. Should I be mapping more? I'm at Triple Elite, so I don't have progress to chase.

Since hitting Elite in Exploration I don't bother with much at all. I have a quick glance at the Frequency Array diagram shown by Bam in a previous post to see if there are any ELWs, WWs or Ammonia Worlds or stellar phenomena but if none of those are indicated I move on. If there is anything of interest I use the FSS selectively to get them to show on the system map and then go and map them. :)
 
Ahhhh...

Not raggin' on you Zieman; just thinkin' out loud.

One wonders why can't people just say the words? Why is everything alphabet this alphabet that? Is time so f.reaking precious now that the time savings difference between saying JFK vs John F Kennedy would break 'em? Every other ED message in the forums (I know - a gross exacgeration) seems to have some alphabetic acronym in it.

<wanders off - with side to side head movement> KIDS these days - in such a hurry!
 
1) I've found lots of High Metal and Metal rich bodies. Some are landable some not. Almost all of the ones that aren't landable, are planets or are moons with an atmosphere and pay something for being found (EDDI will tell you the exact amount). None of the ones that are landable though pay squat (at least the EDDI robo voice doesn't say they do). ?????

Landables pay plenty. I don't know why EDDI is telling you they don't, but it's lying to you. The most valuable planets in the game (Earth-likes, Ammonia worlds, most terraformables) are not landable.

2) Mapping the landable moons should be a big deal and pay a bunch especially considering that they have lots of good stuff to scrape off of 'em.

Well, consider that "landable planets" are as yet only partially implemented. Other planets ought to be "landable" too, we're all just choosing not to do so at the moment. Apparently. If/when we do eventually get to land on those other planets, they will no doubt also be full of things to harvest, shoot at and scan.

3) I've found one water world so far. I expect UC will pay for that but EDDI doesn't mention any pay off.

Waterworlds are valuable. Terraformable water worlds are ten times more valuable.

I've mapped a lot of moons, rings and planets. It takes a lot of time or used to anyway (once I figured it out 2 or 3 probes will get you to 100% and it takes mere seconds to launch them - large planets take a few more and you might have to move the ship some but still - easy). Exploration is borderline interesting but not what I would describe as fun. What will I end up actually getting paid for. Currently I only spend time surveying systems with 5 or more bodies that aren't companion stars of the jump in star. Is there a way to rapidly identify a system as worth mapping? If so how would one go about doing it?

Currently in a part of space that is 95% Red and White dwarf type stars witht the closest human system being almost 500 LY away (just started on my trip out). Is that a problem.

Some star classes are better at hosting valuable planets than others. red dwarfs (class M) and brown dwarfs (classes L, T and Y) are cold, dim and boring - all they usually have around them are iceballs and the occasional CLas I gas giant, neither of which are ever worth much. Class K and G aren't really that much better, though do have higher probabilities of finding valuable things. At the other end, Class B are hot, usually way too hot for any planets around them to be habitable and therefore just as likely to host only non-valuable worlds; lava worlds may look cool but don't pay much. If it's max credits you're after (and max chances of finding Earth-likes), swich your galaxy map to filter view, then filter by Star Class, then deselect everything except A and F stars. Those are where the money's at.

Is everyone mapping all the planets they discover? I only bother with the interesting ones for landing on (photo ops) and the earthlikes. Should I be mapping more? I'm at Triple Elite, so I don't have progress to chase.

As for mapping, it's entirely optional. If you want to roleplay being a Starfleet science officer, then by all means map everything if you wish. As far as the game itself is concerned, Mapping gets you locations of surface features, and two long-term rewards: credits, and the "Mapped By" Tag. If you don't care about either credits (and the Exploration rating progress towards Elite that comes with credits) or the Tags, then you don't have to map anything at all, unless you're looking for surface features. Personally, I'm Elite Explorer and have over a billion credits in the bank, so I never map anything except Earth-likes, unless I'm in an interesting system that's only been partially explored and I want to plant a "Sapyx was here" flag. But for maximum "credits per hour", you don't want to be wasting your time mapping a bunch of iceballs or rocky moons and certainly don't want to be wasting time mapping gas giants. Map the Earth-likes, Ammonia worlds and Terraformables, and leave everything else.

Note: the FSS will not tell you if a world is terraformable or not (it will tell you once per planet class per region, through the Codex popups, but that's all). To find terraformables, you first have to do the full FSS on the system, then open the system map and click on each HMC (high metal content planet), Water World and large Rocky moon (above 0.40 surface gravity) that's within the "goldilocks zone" for that particular star. After a while, you get pretty good at locating the Goldilocks zones (the third-party tools can also do this) and at guessing which objects will be terraformable and which won't.
 
Ahhhh...

Not raggin' on you Zieman; just thinkin' out loud.

One wonders why can't people just say the words? Why is everything alphabet this alphabet that? Is time so f.reaking precious now that the time savings difference between saying JFK vs John F Kennedy would break 'em? Every other ED message in the forums (I know - a gross exacgeration) seems to have some alphabetic acronym in it.

<wanders off - with side to side head movement> KIDS these days - in such a hurry!

It's human nature. Wherever people with a common interest meet - whether it's stamp collecting, or astrophysics, or a computer game, a "jargon" will develop around the subject matter of interest. It helps separate the "in crowd" who understand the jargon (or who are interested enough in the subject to want to learn the jargon) from the "out crowd", to whom the gibberish is a clue to go away and talk to someone else. Acronyms and abbreviations are just part of the jargon, though usually a common part in "science-fictiony" interest groups. You can probably blame NASA and their TLA Syndrome (three-letter-acronym) for that.
 

Flossy

Volunteer Moderator
One wonders why can't people just say the words? Why is everything alphabet this alphabet that? Is time so f.reaking precious now that the time savings difference between saying JFK vs John F Kennedy would break 'em? Every other ED message in the forums (I know - a gross exacgeration) seems to have some alphabetic acronym in it.
Sorry, I usually expand abbreviations if I think there is a chance someone may not understand - as I did with the Elite Dangerous Market Connector earlier; however I sometimes forget that not everyone has played since alpha and picked up on many of the abbreviations over the years. :)

<wanders off - with side to side head movement> KIDS these days - in such a hurry!
Haha..... sorry but that is so funny! I suppose I should be flattered that you think I'm a kid! I'm 65! 🤣
 
Haha..... sorry but that is so funny! I suppose I should be flattered that you think I'm a kid! I'm 65! 🤣

Yeah...
I'm 67, Junior... ;)

That said been playing ED for 4+ years and don't even come close to knowing all the acronyms. Seems like new ones pop up regularly. About 1/2 the time they're easy to figure out; the other 1/2 one just has to ask. An answer is always forthcoming.
 
On the topic of exploration what does it take to get the Elite from Pioneer? Thought I would get it for the Tri-run but when I finished my return to the bubble- nothing?

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Still Pioneer.
 
It is interesting how we consider 'a long way' - just starting out last year 500Ly seemed a bit of a haul, doing the 5KLy for an engineer unlock was 'big time exploration'...
Now, a year on I'm just heading back to base from a 10KLY 'nip out to the corner shop' to take a look around an interesting bit I'd noticed last Christmas. That was up near the Abyssal Plain, I moved 'home' to Colonia recently - another good move in my books!
 

Flossy

Volunteer Moderator
Yeah...
I'm 67, Junior... ;)

That said been playing ED for 4+ years and don't even come close to knowing all the acronyms. Seems like new ones pop up regularly. About 1/2 the time they're easy to figure out; the other 1/2 one just has to ask. An answer is always forthcoming.
Ooooh another player older than me (other than my husband who is 8 months older). I can't remember when I first heard of Earth Like Worlds as ELWs but done a lot of exploration and became Elite in it during DW2 (my first ever Elite). :D
 
Is everyone mapping all the planets they discover? I only bother with the interesting ones for landing on (photo ops) and the earthlikes. Should I be mapping more? I'm at Triple Elite, so I don't have progress to chase.

Not in the slightest. Just terraformable, ELW, water and ammonia worlds, those I might want to land on, a few just for the fish, and the occasional gas giant, just in case someone stumbles upon a system I turned in, in order to confuse them ;)
 
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