Why can't a mamba have fighters?

[War Eagle]

Covas in my FAS says she self identifies as a FGS and wants her hanger bay installed today!

 

[Stealthie]

No hanger installed? It's on top?

No hangar installed.

And...

Spoiler

 

[War Eagle]

No hangar installed.

And...

Spoiler

Ya someone already told me...but I noticed the trusters running too.

 

[xzanfr]

Nothing to do with balance. The physical size of the hanger bay won't fit in a python due to its shape. The python would need to be completely remodelled to get one to fit. If they are gonna do that, they may as well make a new ship and call it a Krait MK2.

The python was created prior to the fighters and the hangar bay could have been any size, it was a conscious decision to not have it fit in certain ships for balance.
They didn't just create a hangar bay then think "oh pants it won't fit, better make a krait II !". The Krait was created to give a different experience to the python with more of a combat focus. It's all good, it makes the game richer.

 

[babelfisch]

Yeah, they should definitely share the love.

I demand that the Krait gets a C4 hardpoint.
I mean, the Mamba's got one so, y'know, share the love.

It should also be a large ship but land on small pads. Share the love!

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

The python was created prior to the fighters and the hangar bay could have been any size, it was a conscious decision to not have it fit in certain ships for balance.
They didn't just create a hangar bay then think "oh pants it won't fit, better make a krait II !". The Krait was created to give a different experience to the python with more of a combat focus. It's all good, it makes the game richer.

The hanger bay needs to be a size that fits a fighter in. I'm sure balance does come into it in some degree, but the main issue with the python is that due to its shape it cannot fit one.

 

[xzanfr]

The hanger bay needs to be a size that fits a fighter in. I'm sure balance does come into it in some degree, but the main issue with the python is that due to its shape it cannot fit one.

I get that, but (and I should have mentioned this in my previous post), the fighters could have been any size and therefore the bays could have been any size. They're remotely flown so don't need a seat, or if a seat is required then they could have folded up like the srv with flappy wings.
I feel that it was a balance decision from the start - and a correct one at that.

 

[Juanxlink]

I get that, but (and I should have mentioned this in my previous post), the fighters could have been any size and therefore the bays could have been any size. They're remotely flown so don't need a seat, or if a seat is required then they could have folded up like the srv with flappy wings.
I feel that it was a balance decision from the start - and a correct one at that.

Bear in mind, the conda has had the loading bay door there since the start. So they probably had, or have, a rough chart size at least, for everything.
All fighters fold somehow for docking.

 

[Cmdr. Numa]

The Mamba is a cockpit with a huge weapon behind strapped between two massive engines and 4 further hardpoints. Where would you fit a fighter ? In a CZ a fighter is more of a liability than an asset anyway, and it's a CZ where the Mamba excels.

 

[Troopi]

Scre fighter hangars and hardpoints! I want my ship to carry combat drones around it. Just like a Thargoid interceptor!

 

[Vardaugas]

Scre fighter hangars and hardpoints! I want my ship to carry combat drones around it. Just like a Thargoid interceptor!

Assault limpets that attach themselves to the target's hull and start disassembling it. Like reverse repair limpets.

 

[zimms]

What's the point in having different ships if everyone should do everything? Probably also give them all the same module slots, so no one can complain anymore.

 

[Morbad]

I think FDev should covertly give, like, the Hauler seven class 8 optionals and all class-8 internals. Just for, like, two days. I want to see what kind of hellish deathships that'd create.

Probably the kind that still only has a single small hardpoint, so can only rely on ramming to do any damage.

It would be like the pre-release condors in CZs. They had a bugged mass because someone had the decimal place six places off on their fuel or something, so almost any collision with one destroyed almost any ship.

 

[metatheurgist]

I think FDev should covertly give, like, the Hauler seven class 8 optionals and all class-8 internals. Just for, like, two days. I want to see what kind of hellish deathships that'd create.

If they didn't increase the thrusters or even adjust the op mass of existing thrusters, you'd get a hellishly slow ship that can't move.

 

[lenna]

Anyway ask Zorgon Peterson as they have yet to make a military fighter equipped ship. Also maybe the Mamba description is why..."Based on an unreleased racing prototype, the Mamba is one of the fastest ships in production...".

Succinct and to the point

The Krait Mk II more resembles a light Python from Faulcon DeLacy who made the fighter bay for the Anaconda. Meanwhile players have asked for a fighter bay on the Python for years! Maybe the Krait Mk II was the answer.

I am not convinced by your python comparison, but IMO the Krait Mk 2 addresses a number of ship requests in a nice way.

Note that the Fer de Lance might have included a fighter bay but it was so restricted just getting a combat ship setup with limited optional internal slots and trading shields for a fighter bay would not be wise.

The FDL has historically been a Bounty hunter's ship first and foremost - arguably in ED it still is.

Besides in past Elite games the Fer de Lance was a luxury boat for VIPs. Go figure.

No fighter bays
Zorgon Peterson
Hauler
Adder
Fer de Lance
Mamba

With fighter bays
Core Dynamics
Federal Corvette (Class 5-7)
Federal Gunship (Class 5-6)
Faulcon DeLacy
Anaconda (Class 5-7)
Krait MkII (Class 5-6)

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Add to the "With fighter bays"

Lakkon Spaceways​

T-9 (Class 5-7)​

Keelback (Class 5)​

T-10 (Class 5-7)​

Alliance Crusader (Class 5-6)​

Saude Kruger​

Beluga Liner (Class 5-6)​

Gutamaya​

Imperial Cutter (Class 5-7)​

Zorg Peterson have a small range of ships and none of them are particularly big vessels, while those manufacturers with existing larger SLF capable ships have produced smaller ships capable of deploying SLFs. Maybe when/if FD release the Panther Clipper, the ZPG fans will finally get a ship with SLF capability.

 

[Voracity_T]

I hate to say it.

But this read as: "Why can't my already near meta combat ship have an inbuilt lag switch"

But thats just me.

 

[Hooplah]

...I am not convinced by your python comparison, but IMO the Krait Mk 2 addresses a number of ship requests in a nice way.

The FDL has historically been a Bounty hunter's ship first and foremost - arguably in ED it still is.


Add to the "With fighter bays"

Lakkon Spaceways​

T-9 (Class 5-7)​

Keelback (Class 5)​

T-10 (Class 5-7)​

Alliance Crusader (Class 5-6)​

Saude Kruger​

Beluga Liner (Class 5-6)​

Gutamaya​

Imperial Cutter (Class 5-7)​

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Thanks for your intelligent reply.

Look up the Python and the Krait Mk II on Coriolis. Only one optional internal slot and some minor ship parameters makes their load out identical.What we cannot see without max engineering both is that the Krairt will have 50 m/s more boost, 35% better shields, better maneuverability, and a little less weight.

I agree that the the Fer de Lance was a bounty hunter while the lore often said that it was a luxury boat.

I was editing my post an lost some of the ship fighter bay listing. I have added them.

Regards and be well

 

[Phisto Sobanii]

I hate to say it.

But this read as: "Why can't my already near meta combat ship have an inbuilt lag switch"

But thats just me.

Ha! That got a big old belly laugh from me.

 

[Vahnkiljoy]

I hate to say it.

But this read as: "Why can't my already near meta combat ship have an inbuilt lag switch"

But thats just me.

It's meta? Wouldn't know I play the game not the spreadsheets/forums, didn't think there was a meta.

 

[Voracity_T]

It's meta? Wouldn't know I play the game not the spreadsheets/forums, didn't think there was a meta.

If a ship is popular amongst the PvP crowd its geerally because it kills other cmdrs exceedingly well.

Ever wondered why there are so many FDL's? Yup. Meta.

Also you don't need to spreadsheet to understand why some ships are more effective than others, but it helps if you want to be in any way an effective combat pilot, plus you are on the forums now bud