Go to the EU or US sites Ash linked above, both allow you to select left handed varients to order/reserve.
Great review Aashenfox, my T16000 is getting old and temperamental, I may be about to have an accident ...
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Hardware & Technical $450 Joystick Review - The VKB Gunfighter MK2 (3600+ words and some pics, u were warned ;) )
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Great review Aashenfox, my T16000 is getting old and temperamental, I may be about to have an accident ...
That much for JUST the stick? Damn, looks nice but damn, not even a throttle to go with?
The next throttle I plan to use with this is linked near the bottom o fhte previous page, another 350 bucks from a different company. #killmenow
Congratulations on your cockpit upgrade!
And the only thing left on the shopping list are some good pedals.
Got you fam...forward thrusters, reverse thrusters and the clutch is spare FA off (because my usual control is also used in menus!), it's so natural, it's like driving a car.
Even FA off on the clutch just feels right.In all seriousness though, this has to also function as a car rig, and it does, both, perfectly. I couldn't be happier.
I always figured you for a keyboard and relative mouse scrub seeing as you’re in the pvp scene. More respect to you
Thanks man, yeh my immersion and enjoyment is far more important to me than climbing the ladder, besides, with equipment like this I just caught sight of a few more rungs.
I'll try to post up a vid of my module sniping with the new stick soon, I took some footage in the comp nav yesterday, need to go through it and see if any of it was any good.
Oh for God’s sake, this slope was slippery enough when I saw that first picture of the joystick.....now that ^
I started playing this game last year with a twenty year old Sidewinder Pro by next year I’m in danger of having every peripheral possible and bailiffs banging on my door. I’m off to explain to my X-55 it’s time to live in the garage along with Sidewinder Pro and T-Flight HOTAS X.
Nice to see some photos of the mechanical elements too, I’m surprised they don’t show that type of shot as standard in their advertising. Quality shows.
Very nice! I can't see myself getting one as I'm not that hardcore in my gaming, but I'm sure I'd really like the feel of it. I'm still on a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, but I do have a Saitek X52 Pro sitting around, but I just can't bring myself to use it because I keep pressing all the wrong buttons, despite the center being so much more accurate and the stick motion so much smoother than the Logitech.
Nyogel 767A. See all the details here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...ottle-re-grease-it-to-make-it-awesome.355691/
Brilliant, cheers!
I have a 12-15 year old x52pro which has minor problems but still works, but I switched to the T16000 FCS HOTAS for the added accuracy. That's all I can afford right now. I'm hoping Thrustmaster or another company with make a HOTAS which will be the next step up without breaking my bank in the next few years.
I would like to know what is the best damping grease for the TWCS throttle though! I also plan on adding magnets when I add the grease to simulate a center detent which the throttle is sadly missing.
I would like to know what is the best damping grease for the TWCS throttle though! I also plan on adding magnets when I add the grease to simulate a center detent which the throttle is sadly missing.
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That's a nice setup o7Got you fam...forward thrusters, reverse thrusters and the clutch is spare FA off (because my usual control is also used in menus!), it's so natural, it's like driving a car.
In all seriousness though, this has to also function as a car rig, and it does, both, perfectly. I couldn't be happier.
The right grease is quoted above and I also want to express my thanks for that!!
I haven't used a warthog, but we have a squadron member (@Camisade ), who owns a virpil stick and prefers the warthog. But then he uses rudder pedals, so has no need of twist to yaw, which is 100% a deal breaker for me (warthog has no twist axis). Quality wise, they are much of a muchness I believe. Perhaps the vkb is slightly better with all that steel and the Marrs sensors, but it's not going to translate into meaningfully better performance I wouldn't think.
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I started Elite Dangerous with the TM Warthog because it was recommended by the friend who sucked me into this game. But I could never use fixed weapons with it, because of the TM hard center. Even using curves didn't really help me.
Over a thousand hours of play with that joystick made it really hard for me to switch to a VKB or a Virpil grip, and back before I started using Joystick Gremlin, I didn't like the way the hats worked on those sticks as much as the Warthog grip I'd grown so accustomed to. So I despaired being able to use the fixed weapons that are so important to PvP in Elite Dangerous.
Then I heard that Virpil supported the TM Warthog grip on their VPC WarBRD base. So I tried that route. And THAT combination is awesome -- so much so that I now have two of those franken-sticks -- the Virpil base and its precision soft center is incredible and I get to use the TM grip that my old, inelastic brain now seems to be hard-wired to.
When buying my second TM grip, I found that if you email Thrustmaster, they'll sell you the grip without having to buy the base (I told them I loved the grip I had, but it felt like it was wearing a bit, and I wanted to have a spare, just in case it eventually failed). It's still an expensive grip, but not as expensive as buying the full joystick and pretty much in line with the grips sold independently by Virpil and VKB.
If I were to start anew, I'd probably go with a VKB stick, like Ash's. The one I have (and don't use!) is excellent, but does not have yaw on the stick and it might be nice not having to take rudder pedals with me when I travel!
I'm in a similar boat with my throttle. I've wired my brain to use the TM HOTAS Warthog throttle (and have two of them -- one for home and one for on the road when I travel), but I'm seriously considering that new Virpil throttle. It's sexy!
Over a thousand hours of play with that joystick made it really hard for me to switch to a VKB or a Virpil grip, and back before I started using Joystick Gremlin, I didn't like the way the hats worked on those sticks as much as the Warthog grip I'd grown so accustomed to. So I despaired being able to use the fixed weapons that are so important to PvP in Elite Dangerous.
Then I heard that Virpil supported the TM Warthog grip on their VPC WarBRD base. So I tried that route. And THAT combination is awesome -- so much so that I now have two of those franken-sticks -- the Virpil base and its precision soft center is incredible and I get to use the TM grip that my old, inelastic brain now seems to be hard-wired to.
When buying my second TM grip, I found that if you email Thrustmaster, they'll sell you the grip without having to buy the base (I told them I loved the grip I had, but it felt like it was wearing a bit, and I wanted to have a spare, just in case it eventually failed). It's still an expensive grip, but not as expensive as buying the full joystick and pretty much in line with the grips sold independently by Virpil and VKB.
If I were to start anew, I'd probably go with a VKB stick, like Ash's. The one I have (and don't use!) is excellent, but does not have yaw on the stick and it might be nice not having to take rudder pedals with me when I travel!
I'm in a similar boat with my throttle. I've wired my brain to use the TM HOTAS Warthog throttle (and have two of them -- one for home and one for on the road when I travel), but I'm seriously considering that new Virpil throttle. It's sexy!