The new game is to play for Herbigs
That's my old game of 3 years hence.
I even have (at least one) ELW tagged orbiting an Ae/Be and iirc at least a couple of WWs.
Are there any ELWs recorded in orbit in WR systems?
Are all the Wolf Rayets Tagged?
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That's my old game of 3 years hence.
I even have (at least one) ELW tagged orbiting an Ae/Be and iirc at least a couple of WWs.
Are there any ELWs recorded in orbit in WR systems?
Are there any planets in WR systems? I've never seen any.
That's my modus operandus - to attempt to take random routes toward no-where in particular
Dunno. My experience of WRs is very, very, infinitesimally small - because I realised how rare they were and therefore assumed that all had been tagged pretty quickly - so to avoid further disappointment, I never tried actively looking from years ago.
However, after having the brave fellow explorers in this thread saying that there are some yet to be tagged, so the search is afoot. (brave = because others may be encouraged by your words: to search; and on finding; quickly turn in the data on any untagged you've stumbled across - before you get the chance to tag them yourself!?)
You can still find some, I'm pretty sure. I mean, look at me. First trip ever, 4 months in the black and I managed to discover 12 of them first (of which a few are already tagged, a few still in the game).
Yes, there are. I've just checked all the Wolf-Rayet systems I've come across, and there were planets sometimes. In total, I've visited 28 such systems, and ended up with the following:
Yes, there are. I've just checked all the Wolf-Rayet systems I've come across, and there were planets sometimes. In total, I've visited 28 such systems, and ended up with the following:
- 1 non-landable high metal content world orbiting a single WC star (FD)
- 1 class III gas giant orbiting a single WO star (FD)
- Another non-landable high metal content world orbiting a single WO (FD)
- 1 class V gas giant orbiting a WO star with a few more stars in system: 1 x O, 1 x B, 1 x Herbig
- 1 metal-rich body orbiting a W star with another class DA white dwarf orbited by rocky planets in the system. This should be a hand-made one though.
Nice work.
That's some good motivation right there for me to get speedy - I'm moving far too slowly at the moment - keep getting sucked in to the FSS and discovering entire systems of often 50plus objects and that eats up my limited gaming time for not much progress in distance moved across the galaxy (and certainly haven't uncovered much in the way of BIO locations either!) - so this thread and your post is a good motivator to just leave the systems alone from now on (unless maybe ELWs/WWs/AWs are present) and get moving through the galaxy faster.
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Don't agree with Matt Smith clown comment - I'll go as far as offering my opinion that the continuity and overall storyline of the Matt seasons were superior to others in my view. That omnipresent crack in the wall...
Tennant was my least favourite of recent Drs, but maybe 'cos I can't really watch Billy Piper without cringing (rubbish actress) - rather than not getting on with David's Dr.
Heh, I know what you mean. Happens to me too sometimes. The more bodies there are, the more compelled I feel to just scan everything!
For me this usually happens with systems with 60+ bodies. The less crowded ones I just probe for ELW/WW/AW, although I mostly don't do surface scans on terraformable WWs anymore, because I find them to be a bit boring by now.What I've been doing recently is to scan pretty much all gas giants though, in the hope of finding a [GGG]. Costs time, too.
Not sure if it's what you want to hear, but I just discovered another one. To my surprise, this one was sitting just 700Ly out of [BD+46 1067], completely undetected. What I was actually going for was the main star though, a class B supergiant (my second one). The only other thing in that system was that Wolf-Rayet, class WN. I estimated the probability of this being undiscovered at about 0.1, but nobody took notice after all.
Certain classes of supergiants appear to be more rare than Wolf-Rayet stars, at least in my experience. E.g. I've only disvovered 2 class B blue-white supergiants and one class K red supergiant. Class F white ones and class G (also "white"?) ones come at 4 each. Class O (are there any O? EDSM doesn't mention them)? Not a single one so far.
But I'm at 13 Wolf-Rayets now. Also, I've been looking for class DQ white dwarfs. No luck there either.
So in my experience, WRs aren't the hardest thing to find, if you've got enough time and - in certain cases - jump range.
Also, there is one more thing I would like to say, and that's especially valid in the galactic centre: Look for obvious things. Like stars that have that "glow" on the map. Often people are overly attracted by the shiny things and forget about other stuff in the vicinity. Like in one case, I found a class G supergiant basically next to a star with that glow. Undiscovered. The same was obviously true for BD+46 1067. You can clearly see it in the skybox, so people try to get there, and once they managed, they're probably super-satisfied (like me, lol), and leave without double-checking the vicinity properly.
Today I did just that, and got a B supergiant and a WN out of it. But this mostly applies to the centre and not so much to WR stars, as they're always in AA-A h systems, I think.
Certain classes of supergiants appear to be more rare than Wolf-Rayet stars, at least in my experience. E.g. I've only disvovered 2 class B blue-white supergiants and one class K red supergiant. Class F white ones and class G (also "white"?) ones come at 4 each. Class O (are there any O? EDSM doesn't mention them)? Not a single one so far.
But I'm at 13 Wolf-Rayets now. Also, I've been looking for class DQ white dwarfs. No luck there either.
So in my experience, WRs aren't the hardest thing to find, if you've got enough time and - in certain cases - jump range.
Also, there is one more thing I would like to say, and that's especially valid in the galactic centre: Look for obvious things. Like stars that have that "glow" on the map. Often people are overly attracted by the shiny things and forget about other stuff in the vicinity. Like in one case, I found a class G supergiant basically next to a star with that glow. Undiscovered. The same was obviously true for BD+46 1067. You can clearly see it in the skybox, so people try to get there, and once they managed, they're probably super-satisfied (like me, lol), and leave without double-checking the vicinity properly.
Today I did just that, and got a B supergiant and a WN out of it. But this mostly applies to the centre and not so much to WR stars, as they're always in AA-A h systems, I think.
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Alright, today I reached the Empyrean Straits, and within them, close to the border to the galactic core, there was an entire field of Wolf-Rayets - there are no other words to describe this, because that's what it was - in an area 2200-2500Ly below the galactic plane. There were lots of WR's discovered there of course, but I managed to find FOUR untagged ones in one go. That was in less than an hour.
Now, it'll be a while until I get back home, I can tell you that much. If anyone wants to get their first WR, and if you're fast enough, that'd be a good hunting ground, as I'm not gonna turn in mine in for a while. Just don't give up after the first 10 or 15 or so (yes, it's that many down there)...
It's really easy to see several of them at once on the map in realistic mode when in that area, so switch to that, if you haven't already!
Now, it'll be a while until I get back home, I can tell you that much. If anyone wants to get their first WR, and if you're fast enough, that'd be a good hunting ground, as I'm not gonna turn in mine in for a while. Just don't give up after the first 10 or 15 or so (yes, it's that many down there)...
It's really easy to see several of them at once on the map in realistic mode when in that area, so switch to that, if you haven't already!
Since I posted this thread, I've arrived at Colonia, and en route there I found myself a good few undiscovered WRs - that's me now got 8 tagged, which is so very satisfying.
WRs are probably not the rarest objects, but they are the ones that players tend to exploit more than the other rare stuff like, as you say - Supergiants. I reckon I've tagged 3 or 4 of those, but players won't be specifically targeting them as a destination for their tagging...
Overall, I'm really surprised that there are so many WRs still left to discover, particularly as they are popular for explorers to look out for.
WRs are probably not the rarest objects, but they are the ones that players tend to exploit more than the other rare stuff like, as you say - Supergiants. I reckon I've tagged 3 or 4 of those, but players won't be specifically targeting them as a destination for their tagging...
Overall, I'm really surprised that there are so many WRs still left to discover, particularly as they are popular for explorers to look out for.
Maybe it's just that people want one of each kind of WR as their first discovery. Or maybe one per region? I would understand that way of thinking, because if I see a WO now, I'm more like "meh, another one" than "omg yes!!11". There is just a large stellar inflation going on, once you enter the galactic centre or the regions around it. I think I'll be leaving them alone for now. That way more people can enjoy a successful hunt for the WR's.
Finding an untagged one farther out, now that'd be neat!
PS.: I'm specifically targeting supergiants for tagging. Especially class F and G ones.
Finding an untagged one farther out, now that'd be neat!
PS.: I'm specifically targeting supergiants for tagging.
Especially class F and G ones.
400 billion stars. I'd actually be surprised if we run out of WRs to discover first. The ones I ran across were all enroute to Colonia as well. I just flew 2k below the galactic plane and pretty much everything was undiscovered except for a cherry picked O system. That was near one of the planetary outposts, so I was kind of expecting that.
The new trick is finding them in every region to fill out your Codex.
But WRs are really easy to see on the map, that's the thing. You can't spot a supergiant from hundreds of lightyears away on the map, but it's possible with WRs... more so even than class O stars, which are also visible from farther away. That's really having an effect, I think. I found more WRs by just spotting them on the map than by searching for AA-A h systems (as I wouldn't want to do that for each and every sector).
I've never spotted a single WR on the Gal Map. Not ever, despite switching off everything but WRs and deliberately searching for them.
The ones I've tagged are somewhere between 13 and 11 Kylie's from SagA*, so not in the core area as such and still a very, very finite amount to find out at that range.
The ones I've tagged are somewhere between 13 and 11 Kylie's from SagA*, so not in the core area as such and still a very, very finite amount to find out at that range.
You can't use the galaxy map in "map" mode. I mean, you can, but it won't work well. Use the "realistic" mode instead, where you can't switch off individual star classes. It is in this mode only that you can see WRs from hundreds of lightyears away, as bright white spots.
One more thing that might help: Look for AA-A h systems in the centre or around the centre, and pick systems that have Wolf-Rayets, but not as the main star. Main could be a class O or class B or so. Those aren't as visible on the realistic map, and hence are more likely not to be tagged. Just saying, as I'm currently checking out lots of massive AA-A h systems in search for high-g worlds.
Currently, I'm sifting through AA-A h systems with a class O or B main star. I'm skipping Wolf-Rayets, unless they're the second or third or so star together with at least one O or B. And even though I'm not actively looking for WRs, I managed to tag one or two today.
I'm currently in Odin's Hold, usually close to the galactic plane.
One more thing that might help: Look for AA-A h systems in the centre or around the centre, and pick systems that have Wolf-Rayets, but not as the main star. Main could be a class O or class B or so. Those aren't as visible on the realistic map, and hence are more likely not to be tagged. Just saying, as I'm currently checking out lots of massive AA-A h systems in search for high-g worlds.
Currently, I'm sifting through AA-A h systems with a class O or B main star. I'm skipping Wolf-Rayets, unless they're the second or third or so star together with at least one O or B. And even though I'm not actively looking for WRs, I managed to tag one or two today.
I'm currently in Odin's Hold, usually close to the galactic plane.
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Besides the important hint about the map mode you also need to be in the right general area:
Besides the important hint about the map mode you also need to be in the right general area:
Interesting.
I recognise the Colonia dense splodge, but what is the bold line of Carbons leading east-to/west-from the core? I'm guessing it might be a popular nebula or 2 - from memory is it the Xothai Sector (spelling?)