Guardian Thusters ( Something new)

Going to suggest a unique and new addition to the Guardian modules. We already have Guardian Power Plants and Distributors, so here is the next idea to not only diversify these modules a little, but also build on the Synergy system a bit more.

Guardian Thrusters:

-Module that is unlocked just as any other tech broker module, with guardian materials and requirements.

- Performance and stats resemble closely to that of a G5 Dirty Drive of the same class and adds 30% to max speed on top of this with a +70% in heat generation.

- Boost function is altered, rather than behaving as an impulse boost a duration effect is added, effectively turning the boost function into an accelerator. the longer you hold the button, the faster you go until you reach top speed and/or run out of distributor charge. This makes the Thrusters inadequate for fast combat scenarios where impulse boost is needed. however for vessels that are ordinarily slow this can provide a much needed push. this add a whole new unique system to the game that could diversify certain builds and preferences.

- Acceleration speed is influenced by total ship mass, meaning lighter ships will reach their maximum speed faster then heavier ships.

-Adding these thrusters will give engines the Guardian trail effect

-Synergises with other modules:
-thrusters ignore 75% mass of all Guardian Hybrid modules (including weapons and any tother guardian modules with mass)
-When paired with Guardian Powerplant, Total heat generation is reduced by 5% (applies to all actions regardless of thruster use) or; 20% reduction of heat generation by Thrusters.
-When paired with Guardian Distributor, thrusters now use 30% less distributor draw.

Example:

say we have a Guardian Thruster Krait MK2 travels at 650M/s and an engineered one with same specs has a 500m/s max speed, and they decide to have a drag race in a straight line. while the Guardian Krait has a higher max speed it may take 4 seconds to actually reach it, however once reached it can sustain this speed quite easily. so initially the Engineered Krait would leave the Guardian one for dead in a straight line, but after a while it will be beaten.

effectively these thrusters a like the Muscle Car converter for ships :D

That's all for now, I have many other ideas to expand on guardian tech, but for now this will do. let me know what you think! :)
 
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While I would not mind a revamped boost mechanism, it would have to apply to boost in general and not some specific set of equipment.

Anyway, this...
- Performance and stats resemble closely to that of a G5 Dirty Drive of the same class and adds 30% to max speed on top of this
...is completely outlandish and wholly uncharacteristic for guardian modules.

Most guardian modules are roughly equivalent to a G3-G4 mod. Making these thrusters 30% higher performance than a G5 DD would make the non-boost velocities of many ships exceed what they can boost at now. Ships can already boost too often and already go too fast.
 
Generally I agree we should get more Guardian modules, with synergies.

But as Morbad said the numbers should be in-line to the other Guardian modules.
Make them roughly g3-4, with a full set give them synergy bonus getting them up to nearly g5.
 
Half the threads: "Waaaahh! Engineer Power Creep!"
Half the threads: "Can we have more powerful modules please? And no downsides thanks!"

:)


Edit: Having said that - where are my Military Lasers ;)

Fine, I shall change it ;)

the aim I was intending with this one was although faster, it has a an acceleration handicap, as without it it would be a hunk of junk with no real value (g4 engineer upgrades are all filth anyway, go hard or don't at all i say :D ) otherwise what is even the point of the module if it is not faster than what is available by a little bit? :)

Military lasers??

editied +70% heat generation to the module, because if you are not roasting alive in the cockpit is it really guardian? :D
 
I would prefer a controlled boost instead.
And Guardian ships, culminating in a Guardian Clipper that has to fold to fit into the mail slot. ;)
 
I'm not fresh with my Guardian lore, but weren't they so ecologically concious that they preferred to send their ships in orbit with mass drivers instead of rockets? That doesn't sound like a lot that would specialize in especially strong thrusters. Then again, their power plant isn't all that efficient, so perhaps it's just fluff.
 
While we are at it, i'd love to see a full set of G modules. G as in Guardian, not the other G
With a nice set of synergies between those modules.
Not exactly G5 level, maybe a G3 or somewhere between G3 and G4, but with some pretty useful bonuses to make them sort of attractive while being compared with G5 engineered stuff
 
I'm not fresh with my Guardian lore, but weren't they so ecologically concious that they preferred to send their ships in orbit with mass drivers instead of rockets? That doesn't sound like a lot that would specialize in especially strong thrusters. Then again, their power plant isn't all that efficient, so perhaps it's just fluff.
That is correct, but we don't know what they used to fly in-system or beween-systems. Actually I don't know what kind of fuel humans use to lauch ships into orbit though if I remember correct shooting ships into orbit (like with a mass driver) wouldn't work on earth.
Actually wasn't there a suggestion for an atom bomb driven probe to Jupiter because the weather there is even worse?
 
Personally I'd like to see them as a kind of mixture of the three thruster modifications. Higher heat generation is a good thing but with slightly higher integrity, and performance leaning to being somewhere between clean and dirty drives.

Then they are a good tradeoff in all respects apart from heat but would e somewhat decent without being broken in any way.
 
Half the threads: "Waaaahh! Engineer Power Creep!"
Half the threads: "Can we have more powerful modules please? And no downsides thanks!"

:)


Edit: Having said that - where are my Military Lasers ;)
I want to engineer my Anaconda to fart out Cobra MKIV's to carpet bomb random planets with.
Half the threads will agree with me.
 
I’m kind of iffy here. We have the small Enhanced Performance Thrusters already, and if I recall my lore correctly, the Guardians tended to launch their ships via mass drivers, so I suspect their thruster technology might have really only been suitable for things like Sentinels.

Might be good for the time that we get SRV module options though.

That said, however, I too wouldn’t mind some additional Guardian technologies with synergy effects either, just not sure what those might be yet.
 
That is correct, but we don't know what they used to fly in-system or beween-systems. Actually I don't know what kind of fuel humans use to lauch ships into orbit though if I remember correct shooting ships into orbit (like with a mass driver) wouldn't work on earth.
Actually wasn't there a suggestion for an atom bomb driven probe to Jupiter because the weather there is even worse?
My point is that if they didn't start by using their thrusters to beat their planet's gravity, getting a lot of thrust out of them might have been a secondary concern. Getting as much delta-v as possible tends to be more important in open space. Of course they probably eventually developed some sort of supercruise-equivalent, but those early days could have affected their design philosophy.
 
That is correct, but we don't know what they used to fly in-system or beween-systems. Actually I don't know what kind of fuel humans use to lauch ships into orbit though if I remember correct shooting ships into orbit (like with a mass driver) wouldn't work on earth.
Actually wasn't there a suggestion for an atom bomb driven probe to Jupiter because the weather there is even worse?

People with additional alphabets after their names disagree: https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2012-03-maglev-track-spacecraft-orbit.amp
 
Perhaps have some special synergy with the Phantom, as it appears to have larger versions of the guardian SLF thrusters on its flank fins.
 
Well, given the way Guardian FSD Boosters work (a flat increase to jumprange) and Guardian Shield Boosters (a flat increase to shield strength)... maybe something like G3 engineering plus a flat 100m/s to speed?
 
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