Frontier's Annual Results have been published (June 2018 to May 2019), showing a record year and Elite passing 3 million basegame sales

[StuartGT]

There is no doubt and I never claimed there was, that Elite is Unique. What I do cry about is my frustration that there are apparently 100+ devs working on this, and have been for some 5 years, and this is where we are.. The Elite world is amazing;y big, but there's a lot to do in it is there? if you count doing the same repetitive things over and over again, then I fear your gaming expectations are very low.

We're 5 years down the road and we can't even walk around our ships. We can't walk on planets. The planets we can land on are generic. And the rest is fluff that entails jumping from one instanced system tot he next instanced system.

But.. There are some players that like that, and I do respect it.

You might be interested in the New Era expansion that's been in production for over a year, and is scheduled for release 2H2020.

As for paying for my game.. I bought 5 copies including Horizons on all of them, plush hundreds in ships kits and paint jobs.. Then there's the 4000 odd hours I've invested..

4000 hours of playtime is quite something - that's playing Elite Dangerous every day since release for an average of 2.5hr

The only games that I've ever clocked up more than 10 hours on are those games that I love playing. You must really love playing Elite Dangerous

 

[Sylow]

The only games that I've ever clocked up more than 10 hours on are those games that I love playing. You must really love playing Elite Dangerous

That and complaining about it.

And yes, to anybody who invested 4000 hours into the game and complain that it got a bit stale: pick your favourite movie. Watch it for 2600 times. Tell me if it's still new and interesting.

 

[[PS4] Lorenzo Waringos]

Enjoying this thread. Please carry on.

 

[sollisb]

You might be interested in the New Era expansion that's been in production for over a year, and is scheduled for release 2H2020.


4000 hours of playtime is quite something - that's playing Elite Dangerous every day since release for an average of 2.5hr

The only games that I've ever clocked up more than 10 hours on are those games that I love playing. You must really love playing Elite Dangerous

Most of that 'picture' you posted is pie in the sky and the lowest form of content creation imaginable. Creating Photography From screen images? Really? As a professional Photographer I find the idea Absurd and dredging the barrel. Hiring escorts? lols. Commodity hunting? geez.. Frontier must have really done a bad job is this is what someone is proposing is 'content'

The 'new era expansion' is at this time vapourware. For sure they're developing something, but we don;t know what and no amount of guessing will change that.

That 4000 hours is across 5 accounts, a lot of it idle in test while writing ED code. And yes, I 'love' ED in VR for it's VR'ness

 

[Ezren]

let's break down your claims...

Distant Worlds... Players fly their ships to locations far outside the bubble. I guarantee I could load up Unity and within a day have the ability to fly my 'ship' using the jump mechanic to locations quadrillion LYs away...

Fuel Rats. Players flying ships to other players.

Radio Stations? Oh the repeating rubbish I turn off?

Huge player groups.. OK..

See the thing is, you are in denial Every other MMO has all of that and more, just not in space. Every other MMO has auction halls or variations, Guilds, online chat, chat channels, raid type content etc etc What do we get? Thargoids that live in the servers and only do anything when the servers go off-line. That has to be the most pathetic game lore I have ever heard.

There is no doubt and I never claimed there was, that Elite is Unique. What I do cry about is my frustration that there are apparently 100+ devs working on this, and have been for some 5 years, and this is where we are.. The Elite world is amazing;y big, but there's a lot to do in it is there? if you count doing the same repetitive things over and over again, then I fear your gaming expectations are very low.

We're 5 years down the road and we can't even walk around our ships. We can't walk on planets. The planets we can land on are generic. And the rest is fluff that entails jumping from one instanced system tot he next instanced system.

But.. There are some players that like that, and I do respect it.

As for paying for my game.. I bought 5 copies including Horizons on all of them, plush hundreds in ships kits and paint jobs.. Then there's the 4000 odd hours I've invested.. Are you sure you want to refund me ?

o7

There's always those players who are "too good" for the game they're playing. They talk down to others who enjoy the game, and are always quick to remind everyone that they know the secret, that the game is actually bad. "Other games do this better", they remind everyone, as they do it in this game.

It's like a snake eating its own tail, except the snake is also constantly reminding everyone how he knows about other things that taste much better and he could be eating those instead.

In fact, the game is so bad and not worth their time, they spend almost 3,000 messages posting about it! Also, other players are in denial.

 

[Rob At Work]

There's always those players who are "too good" for the game they're playing. They talk down to others who enjoy the game, and are always quick to remind everyone that they know the secret, that the game is actually bad. "Other games do this better", they remind everyone, as they do it in this game.

It's like a snake eating its own tail, except the snake is also constantly reminding everyone how he knows about other things that taste much better and he could be eating those instead.

In fact, the game is so bad and not worth their time, they spend almost 3,000 messages posting about it! Also, other players are in denial.

I will have a pint of what ever you are drinking, please.

 

[sollisb]

There's always those players who are "too good" for the game they're playing. They talk down to others who enjoy the game, and are always quick to remind everyone that they know the secret, that the game is actually bad. "Other games do this better", they remind everyone, as they do it in this game.

It's like a snake eating its own tail, except the snake is also constantly reminding everyone how he knows about other things that taste much better and he could be eating those instead.

In fact, the game is so bad and not worth their time, they spend almost 3,000 messages posting about it! Also, other players are in denial.

I have never claimed to know any secrets. I have never looked down on anyone enjoying the game, in fairness I do my best to always respect that. What I do though, is call out the white knights.

 

[Ezren]

I have never claimed to know any secrets. I have never looked down on anyone enjoying the game, in fairness I do my best to always respect that. What I do though, is call out the white knights.

And yet here you are, saying all the things that can be done better elsewhere. And here you continue to be.

But hey, let's address that "I do my best to respect other players" line, sharply contrasting with your claim that somebody with a positive outlook on ED is "in denial".

You keep saying you didn't look down on anyone enjoying the game, despite.. all the other words you said.

 

[Viajero]

Creating Photography From screen images? Really? As a professional Photographer I find the idea Absurd and dredging the barrel. Hiring escorts? lols. Commodity hunting? geez.. Frontier must have really done a bad job is this is what someone is proposing is 'content'

Screen caps and photos:
https://discordapp.com/invite/76kNeCG
https://twitter.com/GalPhotoED
https://www.flickr.com/groups/elite_dangerous/pool/

Spoiler

Hiring escorts:
Iridium Wing

Commodity Hunting:
East India Company

Just to name a few examples. It is ok if you dont like those activities though, you do not have to like it all. Perhaps some of the remaining 96 activities in the chart appeal to you?

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

I have never claimed to know any secrets. I have never looked down on anyone enjoying the game, in fairness I do my best to always respect that. What I do though, is call out the white knights.

White Knights? Surely thats just someone with a different opinion these days.

 

[WinterKing2112]

I have never claimed to know any secrets. I have never looked down on anyone enjoying the game, in fairness I do my best to always respect that. What I do though, is call out the white knights.

Even has a label for those people who enjoy the game and don't moan and whine obsessively about the game.....

 

[DeletedUser191218]

I think it was about Frontier making a profit, but then their share prices dropped 8%, so I think Thulsa Doom's back! So now we need a mighty barbarian with a large, sharp sword!

It was about how great the financial results were. Then I pointed out the share price was down on revenue forecasts - not doom-mongering, just to point out that the simple facts. I forgot that to not go along with the relentless, unyielding FDev love-in results in these threads exploding. There was an exchange where people asked silly questions and essentially screamed 'fake news', denied expert opinion - you know, all the stuff people do on forums these days when there's some information that challenges their preconceptions. It all got a bit out of hand. I should have ceased responding myself so was probably as responsible as anyone.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Screen caps and photos:
https://discordapp.com/invite/76kNeCG
https://twitter.com/GalPhotoED
https://www.flickr.com/groups/elite_dangerous/pool/

Spoiler

Hiring escorts:
Iridium Wing

Commodity Hunting:
East India Company

Just to name a few examples. It is ok if you dont like those activities though, you do not have to like it all. Perhaps some of the remaining 96 activities in the chart appeal to you?

Total aside but those screen shots are not genuine are they?
I play in VR so could be wrong but visually they are better tha. I remember on flat screen

 

[CMDR Karrde Sun]

The only thing that doesn't match up is.. if elite is frontiers "largest" franchise, how is it neglected so woefully in terms of software quality. Most of life likes to take care of their crown jewels and keep them in their best form. There are really shameful user facing bugs that they would have consciously triaged as do not fix (please don't claim they're only ignorant, they're unqualified for the job if they don't know about them).

Learning more about the behind the curtain operations like financials makes the reality of the live game even worse sometimes.

 

[Viajero]

Total aside but those screen shots are not genuine are they?
I play in VR so could be wrong but visually they are better tha. I remember on flat screen

Indeed. And there are no auroras in game yet either. Some players just seem to enjoy the photo editing of Elite images.

 

[Viajero]

Then I pointed out the share price was down on revenue forecasts - not doom-mongering, just to point out that the simple facts

You have not stated some key facts yet, like which drop you referred to (which date, or dates if applicable) nor the date the forecasts you referred to made it to the public domain, so your comments still do not make much sense I am afraid.

If you want to re open this discussion again it would be great if you can post those.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Indeed. And there are no auroras in game yet either. Some players just seem to enjoy the photo editing of Elite images.

I see. That is fair enough , they are beautiful images. The worry is why they get mixed in with genuine shots but that is a case of buyer beware I guess

 

[DeletedUser191218]

You have not stated some key facts yet, like which drop you referred to (which date, or dates if applicable) nor the date the forecasts you referred to made it to the public domain, so your comments still do not make much sense I am afraid.

If you want to re open this discussion again it would be great if you can post those.

I have mate. You just don't understand them.

As stated, you're not just arguing with me. You're arguing with every analyst and expert view on the matter. It's a heady mix of ignorance and arrogance. But at the end of the day, whether a moderator on a video game forum wants to deny the work of experienced financial analysts and accountants or not is of no consequence.

 

[Viajero]

I have mate.

Care to post the links please?

 

[sollisb]

And yet here you are, saying all the things that can be done better elsewhere. And here you continue to be.

But hey, let's address that "I do my best to respect other players" line, sharply contrasting with your claim that somebody with a positive outlook on ED is "in denial".

You keep saying you didn't look down on anyone enjoying the game, despite.. all the other words you said.

I'd really like to prolong this conversation with you, but I have no time for this whole millenial I feel offended, crying thing.