Yeah I understand I guess but its not quite Fortnite level yet
ED used to immersive, now it's a shop front.
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I'm not laughing. Not at all. There's nothing funny here.
Probably. There's probably a point where I'll give up. But you know what? I shut down ED last night. Then I ran the update. Then I started up the game. And my experience hasn't changed. Aside a couple of extra options and a blue button on my station holoscreen that I'm happy to ignore, I can't see any difference in the game's verisimilitude between the game I'm playing today and the one I played yesterday.
And just for the record, this shouldn't be taken as me defending FDev's decisions around this update. I have no truck with premium currency rubbish - it's not something I support and certainly not something I'm ever going to spend real money on. So before anyone tells me I'm 'white-knighting' for FDev - no. No, they've ed up here - not with the implementation, not with the UI design, but with the entire philosophy of taking an already-unnecessary Live Service game (the only reason ED was ever multiplayer: that claptrap about how a home machine couldn't handle the BGS was breathtaking nonsense) and adding bloody premium currency garbage to it as well.
Sleazy.
But all that said, I enjoy the game, very much. Have played for years, and I intend to keep playing. I'm used to a lack of verisimilitude in the game because it isn't an eighth the simulation First Encounters was. I'd love to see more immersive mechanics in the game - but as I said, as far as I can see it's only with this update that 'immersion' has become something it's okay to cite on these forums.
I'm in.
All power to you. I'm glad explorers got something they wanted in this update after getting the Eye of
This update is just another step in the wrong direction.
IMO
IMO
Sorry - can't resist
Done.
I'm still waiting for my new avatar to show up.
Well, for someone who did not really play ED for couple of years and got attracted back by shiny AD-s in steam... it looks extremely similar to some other game i played long time ago. Great idea, a lot of fun, then sudden long (~year with no significant updates) pause in development, then supposedly large update comes out, which breaks half of the game and has all this "store", "buy", "premium currency" etc stuff plastered all around...
About 8-10 month later servers were shut down, which was really a shame because the game was great fun, fore me even more so than ED.
Did ED had any new investors at some point in time relatively close to when frequent updates stopped by any chance?
About 8-10 month later servers were shut down, which was really a shame because the game was great fun, fore me even more so than ED.
Did ED had any new investors at some point in time relatively close to when frequent updates stopped by any chance?
The whole "simulation ↔ game" spectrum has been around since before there was code to play, and I don't think it's gained any extra "weight" from recent events. It's unclear from context how long you've been reading the forums (you say you've played since beta, but only created a forum account two years ago) but trust me, this is not anything new.
The STORE button has made the immersion/simulation side of the see-saw more immediately relevant to those for whom it is important, but it hasn't given it any more traction outside of that demographic.
I trust that most people in this community understand that the balance is very rarely in complete equilibrium and that most design decisions tend to frustrate one party or the other depending on which part of the game is getting the cheese.
"Development time wasted on copypasta planets!"
"Typical! More content for the pew-pew crowd!"
It's just the nature of the game, and of the community.
It always has been; "muh immershun" is just a lazy distillation of the response to it from those whose view differs and I'm reasonably confident that nobody has ever been "laughed off the forums" by such a response.
As for the simulation elements of ED, you can downplay them and find examples of inconsistencies, but you cannot dismiss them. The Stellar Forge that provides the background to everything in the game, even just the stars in the background while you're shooting at things, is the very definition of a simulation. I would also argue that ED would not have the same appeal to VR enthusiasts if it didn't already provide a convincing simulation to which the benefits of VR can be applied. Although I will admit that my second example is more subjective than the first.
Blame who you like, but the store button is CLEARLY in Imperial Blue!
I've been playing since beta. I created this forum account two years ago.
Nevertheless, you're right. I'd written about one-third of a whole ludicrous essay trying to address your various points, but it doesn't matter. You're right. I'm wrong. There's an end to it.
Not at all surprised by this. Frontier has gone from being a game company I respected for their honesty, to a company that had made a conscious choice to using ethically questionable marketing strategies that play off weaknesses in human psychology (and somehow this is suppose to be OK because everyone else does it). They have a record year, but still feel the need to obfuscate store prices, double the price of most cosmetics, and force people to buy bundles of coins if they want anything off the store. That button is there to play off yet another psychological weakness. Zero respect now.