Actually I'm taking full advantage of the Streisand effect.
What to do about Griefers
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Actually I'm taking full advantage of the Streisand effect.
If I have Stigbob blocked but Morbad not and I jump in a system where both of them are in SC, I wouldn't be instanced with either of them and they wouldn't notice me. In that case blocking has no negative effect.
If I already am in the system, instanced together with Morbad, and Stibob jumps in he wouldn't be instanced with us so I would negatively effect Morbad and Stigbob.
Correct?
If I already am in the system, instanced together with Morbad, and Stibob jumps in he wouldn't be instanced with us so I would negatively effect Morbad and Stigbob.
Correct?
Huh? Case one has the negative effect of denying you an instance with Morbad.
while that might be true it's also true of ping and most any other criteria followed by matchmaking. but, most of all, it's kind of moot in this circular argument you guys are having:
the moment blocking exists you cannot blame players for using it however they wish. in some sense blocking is to the mode system what menu log is to combat log: just another lame-arx 'mitigation' attempt of the consequences of a failed design: trying to appease everyone with the same dish.
which essentially means that the game where players are free from such fallout doesn't really exist, or does so only in your imagination: 'pizza hut' might attract a lot of people and may be making a lot of money but just lets not call that 'pizza'.
now lets blame tj and be done with it?
Well that's my problem, I am the guy who is using the block function. And Morbad can't complain against not getting instanced with me anyway because he doesn't have an universal right to get instanced with me.
Those are unbiased and unavoidable weights of a technical nature, not the imposition of player fiat.
That sort of logic would excuse all sorts of abuses and exploits.
The moment collision damage exists you cannot blame players for using it however they wish.
The moment absurd profits exist for trivial non-effort you cannot blame players for using it however they wish.
The moment chat exists you cannot blame players for hurling OCC slurs and threats.
...etc and so forth.
The difference between legitimate use and abuse is a matter of context. If nothing could be abused, there wouldn't be a block, because it would be redundant.
Right in the first example, in the second its possible but very rare for blocked people to enter the same instance as you. As its your entering and leaving that's altered.
That's based on two year old info though, they might well have beefed up the efficacy of block when they added it as searchable in the social menu. As its caused some issues when it hasn't worked and people have found themselves seeing blocked players.
It gets even more complicated if you are in peoples friends list as that takes priority over block when it comes to instancing.
IIRC the September patch notes said that blocking now overrides everything.
except there are no illegitimate use cases of neither blocking nor menu logging described, while there are for collision, money exploit and chat abuse. blocking the entire user base might be one of the dumbest feats worth its own challenge thread in this lovely forum but still 'playing as intended'.
the difference between legitimate use and abuse is the rules. context comes into play when admins need to evaluate actions and picture them vs the rules. there aren't even any rules for blocking.
Just checked:
Not quite sure what it means. Could be that this just applies to cases were you are joining an instance rather than others joining yours.
I can describe a few that are blatantly contrary to the intent of these features.
Indeed, one of the only times I've reported someone in game for harassment was because of their use of the menu log to interfere with a CZ and influence the outcome of a war, by attacking my side and logging off before retaliation could crack their shields, then logging back in after a few minutes to do it again, and again.
I'll link you to the video if you like. You can tell me if you think that it features a legitimate use of menu logging.
Especially if this is actually the case, which I have not yet tested. I could fracture wings to isolate and destroy ships I might not be able to otherwise.
If it's not actually these case you wouldn't really have a point since blocking would still be asynchronous.
I posted the actual quote above, it could mean anything...
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She wasn't agreeing with you. Just want to make sure that's clear.
I'm not sure if your being disingenuous or just completely unimaginative.
It's not at all atypical for there to be delays between wing members entering or leaving an instance, or for some individuals to RTB before others. If I'm stalking a wing of CMDRs in a RES, I can block the three I think will need to rearm last, then follow the one I didn't block into SC...or block the ones I see leave and attack the ones that remain, knowing that they won't be able to reinstance with their buddies.
That's why (in the original design, not sure about the September update) blocking gets overridden by wings and friend lists.