[Video] Open letter from community to Elite Dangerous

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
WinterKing2112 said:
Why on earth would you want to buy iron and sulphur? I accidentally pick up tons of the stuff while I'm mining and it's all over the surfaces of planets with geological signals.
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It was the principle used to make the point. Maybe thargoid hearts or what not could be so rare money can't buy, but common elements, data that most ships leave, or components which are fitted to basic ships... Logically these should be purchasable with credits. I know why it is done this way and even get why some players don't care, but given the type of game FD explained they were making I hoped and expected FD to make a better job at hiding the "game" elements and making a more realistic feeling experience.

Alarm bells were ringing when blueprints were routinely called recipies by the Devs and when the chief dev was completely unaware about the difference between slaves and imperial slaves.

Players don't need to know the lore to play the game if it is of no interest but the Devs should know it inside out.
 

krautbernd

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Factabulous said:
Maybe they can add that to the Open Letter demands: "Devs must take a yearly community-set Lore exam and be barred from working on the project if they cannot get an A-Grade". Seems reasonable.
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What if this is already the case and the reason we're getting bugged patches is because half the staff has no idea how the lore works anymore.
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Factabulous said:
Maybe they can add that to the Open Letter demands: "Devs must take a yearly community-set Lore exam and be barred from working on the project if they cannot get an A-Grade". Seems reasonable.
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What ever..... You clearly do not care about internal consistency in the game and that is ok. But no need to dump on those who do.
And come on. Slaves Vs imperial slaves it's not some strange edge case that only geeks know anything about.
 

Ralph Vargr

Ralph Vargr
Gregg Rulz ok said:
I only have three people blocked, one for posting (mostly) the same joke that I personally didn't like, another for being rude, not logical and unamusing, at last, a mod for filling too much my notifications feed, not his fault at all but I used to get circa 15 notifications of his even if I didn't reply to him, perhaps there's another way to fix this.
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There are more than one hundred members of Beige Squadron, and only 29 aircraft. :(
 

Stigbob

Stigbob
Mad Mike said:
What ever..... You clearly do not care about internal consistency in the game and that is ok. But no need to dump on those who do.
And come on. Slaves Vs imperial slaves it's not some strange edge case that only geeks know anything about.
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The devs don't need to know anything about the lore really. Approach it like the movies and have a continuity (lore) guy who's expected to be up to speed. Everyone else can just crack on and ignore the fine details.
 

BigBadBobby

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All I can say is “HOW DARE YOU”

What gives you the right as a player of a GAME, to dictate to the game developers how to run their business and how they present the GAME. And lets not forget here people – IT’S ONLY A GAME.
If I walked into a mechanics shop and tried to tell him how he should run his business and how to set up his garage, he would promptly tell me where to go and show me where the door was, basically to take my business elsewhere if I didn’t like the way he did business.
Fine - if he did some work and it broke after, I would defiantly complain and get the matter resolved, and after that I definitely would NOT go back again and use the same mechanic.

I have been playing Elite since I owned a Commodore 64 back in about 1985, flying around in a wireframe ship going pew pew at small white dots going pew pew back at me. Loved the game then and now have progressed up to where I am now still loving the game. I will continue playing it till I cant. Which brings me to a point -IF you don’t like the game as it is presented to you, LEAVE. Very simple people. Nobody is forcing you all to stay and play. - IT’S ONLY A GAME.
All I saw when I read this so called Open letter is a small group of petulant people who decided to sit around one day drinking latte’s grumbling about how someone can go mining and make more credits than me flying around killing . Basically because the game is not playing how THEY want it to. “But but but I sent you a forum message 4 years ago saying I wasn’t happy with the gameplay and you have to address this NOW”
I could spend a day here relating to all the posts from various people. But in the end it all comes down to one thing. Would you like some cheese with that WINE.
I actually like the new method of purchasing stuff – saves me having to leave the game to do so.
Big Deal, someone screwed the pooch with an update. I’m so sorry it ended your world from spinning around. All I can say is HAPPENS – suck it up.
I say again “ HOW DARE YOU”
I am quite surprised that anybody from Frontier actually gave a reply to this so called letter. I also liked the reply. Basically the underlined message whithin it was “MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS”
I would look at the EULA people -particularly Para 4 /4.3 – A good lawyer could push that point in court. 4.3 You may not transmit any material that is unlawful, defamatory or offensive in relation to your use of the Game or the Online Features.
Read it as you will and could be taken anyway you see it. Defamatory and Offensive are the two words I would be looking at. I would maybe look also at 5/5.1 where you all acknowledge that all rights belong to them.
Well all you notaries on the letter got your 15 minutes of fame on U Tube and other various net gaming community posts. To be quite frank all it did was make you all look foolish to the worldwide gaming community. How does it feel having people laugh at you ?? I certainly had a good LOL.
The end word is people – sure make a post on the forums, I do - SUGGEST some methods or matters you would like implemented within the game. But that’s it. Leave the game as it is to Frontier. Let the “devs” get on with it. Don’t expect them to drop everything on your bequest because you don’t like the way they do business. PLAY the game. Remember IT’S ONLY THAT – A GAME. Not yours – theirs.
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Stigbob said:
The devs don't need to know anything about the lore really. Approach it like the movies and have a continuity (lore) guy who's expected to be up to speed. Everyone else can just crack on and ignore the fine details.
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Which is how we get imperial slaves not in passenger cabins, holome, and instant fast travel of ships which took a massive crapstorm to get FD to stay faithful to DDF.

Note I specifically should have said head designer , I would say other Devs knowing the ins and outs is less Important. That said , it's not like the Elite back story is a lord of the rings sized novel so it isn't asking much.
Again tho if such things don't bother you and you just want to play the game that is fine. There are parts of the game I am not interested in either but I hope FD do those parts well for those who do.

It is funny as I am saying all this on this thread and am not even in support of the thread topic. My complaints are my own and if others choose to agree with them that is cool but I have an inherent distrust of posts which claim to speak for the "community"
 
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[VR] optimal_909

[VR] optimal_909
Stigbob said:
It is funny as I am saying all this on this thread and am not even in support of the thread topic. My complaints are my own and if others choose to agree with them that is cool but I have an inherent distrust of posts which claim to speak for the "community"
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At this point the actual content of the petition is not even that important. ED has a long history of bugs, but even back then when I was still playing, I rarely encountered them.

I think the point is that for too many players, and for different reasons, FDev has bought Elite to a breaking point. This is all about raising awareness, at the very least the game's current management mustn't be proud of it in front of David Braben, who otherwise appears to be completely disengaged.
 

Stigbob

Stigbob
optimal_909 said:
At this point the actual content of the petition is not even that important. ED has a long history of bugs, but even back then when I was still playing, I rarely encountered them.

I think the point is that for too many players, and for different reasons, FDev has bought Elite to a breaking point. This is all about raising awareness, at the very least the game's current management mustn't be proud of it in front of David Braben, who otherwise appears to be completely disengaged.
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I don't know how you did it but you quoted the wrong person under my name there.

Pebcak I'd imagine.
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
optimal_909 said:
At this point the actual content of the petition is not even that important. ED has a long history of bugs, but even back then when I was still playing, I rarely encountered them.

I think the point is that for too many players, and for different reasons, FDev has bought Elite to a breaking point. This is all about raising awareness, at the very least the game's current management mustn't be proud of it in front of David Braben, who otherwise appears to be completely disengaged.
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For the record you miss quoted Stigbob there... it was me who said that.... (no biggie but would not want someone getting associated with a complaint which was not their own :) )

edit and ninja'd i really should refresh the page before i respond!.
 

CMDRGreenmachine

CMDRGreenmachine
CMDR Fnool said:
Communication? A chef doesn't need to communicate with his customers, he needs to communicate with his (or her) own taste buds, in other words, their own judgement, because they are the artists that know how to do it.

Test-server? No thanks, that gives power to the community with opinions and requests, and what i've seen of the community (at least those parts that are regularly vocal) makes me think i don't want them anywhere near development.

Balance? For the same reason, no. The amount of cool and fun games that the PvP community has killed with their demands for generic balance over the years, is legion. Unbalanced means fun and unique stuff for the PVE/single-player experience. Look at World of Warcraft, it used to be full of unbalanced and interesting abilities for very different characters, now thanks to PvP they are all the same, they just look different.

Frankly, all i care about is that the bugs aren't being fixed. This of course is just my opinion, i'm not saying i am objectively correct, but it's how i feel about it.
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Amen to that - seems a lot of people think it's their god given right to have games made they way they want them to run. some of the comments I have seen lately - maybe they need to read the EULA a bit more esp 4.3 and maybe 5.1 - suck it up guys it's a game .
 
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