Saud Kruger; Beautiful ships, Naff chairs, empty cockpits

Kenneth McGrew

Kenneth McGrew
case and point in this screenshot here, or for the immersion crowd, "photo"

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someone went to some effort at least to match the interior to the exterior, then went "i know we have those naff chairs left over from the panther clipper lets use them!"

they also lacked spacial awareness and 90% of the cockpit is an empty nothingness! you could swing an elephant around in that cockpit let alone a cat, with no point or purpose to the space either

perhaps its why we have elephant butt leather who knows?

Even the Dolphin has a gargantuan cockpit with nothing in it apart from that ghastly hideous chair

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and the beluga?

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you can play tennis over those divides, or even host a horse dressage contest just behind them - they at least painted the hideous chairs white in the concept though, but unfortunately gave us left overs on release.

so does this space have a future purpose or is it just over-sized nonsense, space is a premium on ships / boats / planes / spacecraft so the blatant misuse of it feels out of touch, i do hope if / when we get an interior they dont start sticking sofas in the middle of a football pitch because they have run out of ideas!

to illustrate the waste of space, (just some crazy 3d modelling im working on in the background but is scaled correctly (almost ready for a walkaround)) its possible to pretty much stick a generous studio apartment in the Dolphin cockpit not to mention what could sit behind it!

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but what would you like to find inside your ship besides better chairs?? especially the SK ones with all the windows!
 

CMDR Fnool

CMDR Fnool
I own a Beluga, and a few plastic palm trees in the corners probably wouldnt go amiss, it might be so tacky that it breaks through the tack-o-metre into the cool readings. Or for something completely insane, a gothic reading room, with wooden flooring and sombre carpets, antiquated library shelves along the walls, olde-worlde desk and various stuffed ravens, grandfather clocks etc placed around the general area. Edgar Alan Poe in space.

You know, i've just realised how vulnerable i am to ARX, should more options become available for our cockpits some day.
 

VR tazbert

VR tazbert
This is the other side of the cockpit glass scale problem

Ships with proper ship bridges, not upscaled cockpits

I think we need ships with proper bridges, not just upscaled cockpits. At a certain point a ship becomes too large for a cockpit and it throws the sense of scale off. They are ships when they are large, not aircraft. See this ship? Cockpit looks like it can seat two pilots comfortably. You can...
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They made the windows 10 times bigger than they should be, so the cockpit has to be 10 times bigger than it should be to match up
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Shiro Akai

Shiro Akai
Luxury in "luxury liner" stands for passenger comfort, not pilot's. You're at work so simple and robust chair should suffice. And that empty space behind - it just ask to add a wall and make a mini bar. For passengers obviously. Drinking and flying space bus is a way to turn yourself into unemployed bus driver.
 

askavir

askavir
Looking at every ship shape from the outside, I'm pretty convinced they were initially designed to be half the size (or even smaller) they ended up becoming, like if late along the development process someone entered the design room and yelled "make them twice the size!!" and then shut the door and there was no time to redesign entire ships so they were scaled by 2x. That's why all the cockpit windows and interior areas feel awkwardly gigantic, even if the interior detailing like chairs and wires and whatnot is of proper scale..
 

WeComeInPeace

WeComeInPeace
I would like a cockpit that is more steam punk. Also, if you live inside a spaceship, it will become crowded with litter. I remember reading about MIR, and how they had all sorts of nasty things flying around in zero G.

I also heard that the first time an american spaceship docked at MIR, the astronauts shouted "Fire!" after opening the hatch, not knowing that the cosmonauts were smoking cigarettes inside MIR. The had developed a special method, waving the cigarette to keep the cigarette ember going. That might be an urban legend, but I'd love to see stuff like that in ED :)

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Stealthie

Stealthie
tazbert said:
This is the other side of the cockpit glass scale problem

Ships with proper ship bridges, not upscaled cockpits

I think we need ships with proper bridges, not just upscaled cockpits. At a certain point a ship becomes too large for a cockpit and it throws the sense of scale off. They are ships when they are large, not aircraft. See this ship? Cockpit looks like it can seat two pilots comfortably. You can...
forums.frontier.co.uk forums.frontier.co.uk

They made the windows 10 times bigger than they should be, so the cockpit has to be 10 times bigger than it should be to match up
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This is the fundamental problem.

FDev always do the whole "It's bigger than it appears" thing without really coming up with a good explanation for it.

I guess it is desirable to provide the best possible FOV for the flight crew but there's more efficient ways to achieve that instead of creating massive cockpits/bridges with massive panoramic windows in them.
More realistically, the entire flight crew of a Beluga would probably be seated within the central area where the pilot sits and all the instrumentation would be built into consoles within easy reach.
 

Kenneth McGrew

Kenneth McGrew
Stealthie said:
This is the fundamental problem.

FDev always do the whole "It's bigger than it appears" thing without really coming up with a good explanation for it.

I guess it is desirable to provide the best possible FOV for the flight crew but there's more efficient ways to achieve that instead of creating massive cockpits/bridges with massive panoramic windows in them.
More realistically, the entire flight crew of a Beluga would probably be seated within the central area where the pilot sits and all the instrumentation would be built into consoles within easy reach.
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aye, the seats are so far away from the "dashboards" there is no chance in hell you could press any instrument panel - its bizarre

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Old Duck

Old Duck
I like the Saud Kruger bridges - at least they feel the scale they are. Now compare that to the iCourier, which feels like an F-16 fighter on a 2D monitor until you switch camera view and realize that you can take a nap on a queen-size mattress on what looks like a car's dashboard from the cockpit view.

People think of these ships as 747s or something, but I think of them as personal yachts. Of course the bridges will be big and luxurious.

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