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You haven’t given a reason.
You’ve only said that you don’t like it.
I have given you a reason many times already. Go back to the posts I have already replied to you with and maybe read them. It helps.

Also if that's a good enough reason for you asking for the ADS back, it's a good enough reason for me not wanting the ADS back. But that's not the only reason.
 
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I have given you a reason many times already. Go back to the posts I have already replied to you with and maybe read them. It helps.

You said that it ‘spoils’ the experience.
If you are not using the ADS, how has the FSS experience been ‘spoiled’?

You said that it would reduce your enjoyment.
If the FSS is still exactly the same, why wouldn’t you enjoy it as much?
 
You said that it ‘spoils’ the experience.
If you are not using the ADS, how has the FSS experience been ‘spoiled’?

You said that it would reduce your enjoyment.
If the FSS is still exactly the same, why wouldn’t you enjoy it as much?
That is a small part of what I said. Maybe you should write down the rest to give it some context.

Even so, if it's a good enough reason for you, it's a good enough reason for me. Or are you practicing double standards.

How about not liking the FSS is not a good enough reason to have the ADS reintroduced. So far, thats all you've been saying.
 
You said that it ‘spoils’ the experience.
If you are not using the ADS, how has the FSS experience been ‘spoiled’?

You said that it would reduce your enjoyment.
If the FSS is still exactly the same, why wouldn’t you enjoy it as much?

to start, I think it’s a waste of dev time if it even takes a minute to put it back in. I also think the FSS has made more people scan whole systems, which implies (to me) there is a lot more to find.

lastly, the whining has been so annoying since the change that I don’t want the ads crowd to get a win. But that’s a more personal reason lol
 
That is a small part of what I said. Maybe you should write down the rest to give it some context.

Even so, if it's a good enough reason for you, it's a good enough reason for me. Or are you practicing double standards.

How about not liking the FSS is not a good enough reason to have the ADS reintroduced. So far, thats all you've been saying.

The reasoning may be similar, but there’s a massive difference in the outcome.

You not liking the ADS doesn’t prevent you from enjoying exploration with the FSS.
Me not liking part of the FSS completely blocks me from enjoying exploration.

You have a perfectly viable and enjoyable alternative.
I do not.

The lack of an ADS utterly compromises my exploration.
The presence of an ADS does not compromise your exploration at all.

Our positions are not equivalent.
 
The reasoning may be similar, but there’s a massive difference in the outcome.

You not liking the ADS doesn’t prevent you from enjoying exploration with the FSS.
Me not liking part of the FSS completely blocks me from enjoying exploration.

You have a perfectly viable and enjoyable alternative.
I do not.

The lack of an ADS utterly compromises my exploration.
The presence of an ADS does not compromise your exploration at all.

Our positions are not equivalent.
That's is a massive assumption on your part. I have already told you that adding in the ADS will have negative effects on my enjoyment of the game.

The FSS completely compromised how I explored before, it literally wasn't possible, so I changed the way I explore.

It's up to you mate, adapt and continue, or throw your toys out the pram because what you had has gone.
 
to start, I think it’s a waste of dev time if it even takes a minute to put it back in. I also think the FSS has made more people scan whole systems, which implies (to me) there is a lot more to find.

lastly, the whining has been so annoying since the change that I don’t want the ads crowd to get a win. But that’s a more personal reason lol

The FSS leading to whole systems being scanned is more about how it works than anything else.
It effectively reduces every system to zero size.
It’s no more effort to scan a body 500,000ls way than 50ls away.

Prior to that, it was a choice about whether it was worth flying there to scan it.
 
That ship has long sailed with the Horizons NPC nerf and the numerous credit earning buffs.
There was nothing horizon NPC need according to MoM. And the numerous credit earning buffs I think is a mistake. You never got that many posts about earning, maybe a few a month. I doubt Fdev caved in to that, it's possible it's for other reasons.
 
That's is a massive assumption on your part. I have already told you that adding in the ADS will have negative effects on my enjoyment of the game.

The FSS completely compromised how I explored before, it literally wasn't possible, so I changed the way I explore.

It's up to you mate, adapt and continue, or throw your toys out the pram because what you had has gone.

Please describe the ‘negative effects’.
Without an explanation, your reasoning is empty.
 
The FSS leading to whole systems being scanned is more about how it works than anything else.
It effectively reduces every system to zero size.
It’s no more effort to scan a body 500,000ls way than 50ls away.

Prior to that, it was a choice about whether it was worth flying there to scan it.
And the ADS does not? Look you can't complain about one system and not apply it the other when it's completely relevent to do so.

So you think an ADS that finds every planet and moon in a system in five seconds doesn't have the same effect?

That's serious clutching at straws.
 
And the ADS does not. Look you can't complain about one system and not apply it the other when it's completely relevent to do so.

So you think an ADS that find every planet and moon in a system doesn't do the same.

We’ve been here before many times Max.

The ADS did not provide body scans, that was the old DSS.
The system map was strongly indicative, but that only served to force an important choice.
Leave without reward, or continue with further exploration to obtain those rewards.

The FSS does not facilitate the same choice until after you’ve scanned every body.
At which point the decision is pointless - you’ve already discovered the system.
 
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