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Engineering Under Threat - Open Letter etc
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Imagine tennis, played with severed legs for rackets, hitting balls made out of nuclear fire over nets of stretched human skin.
Thats what the open / solo / what is ED forum banter becomes eventually.
Thats what the open / solo / what is ED forum banter becomes eventually.
Do you have a 1,000 subscriber plus You Tube channel?
ED is not a PVP game since PVP is optional and can be avoided entirely
It is not a PVE game either since there are people that skipped the versus entirely and never fired a shot.
It is something quite unique if you ask me, but definitely not a pvp game.
(pick expletive of choice.. usually referring to paternity)... I nearly choked on my cola! I'm stealing that line, it is excellent
(pick expletive of choice.. usually referring to paternity)... I nearly choked on my cola! I'm stealing that line, it is excellent
Enjoy! The slightly unsettling thing is with those debates I actually enjoy them.
Anyone for leg tennis?
The debates are brilliant, I join in on either side at random, but do wish that some of the 'less insightful' participants in the round-robin would preface their names with [Carthorse] so we know in advance that their blinkers prevented an open view of the world
Okay just realize ED IS actually a pure PvP-Game:
You deliver batallions of soldiers to the battlefield with your Orca.
With the T-Type-Ships you deliver fish and tea to supply those groundforces.
With the AspX and DBX you exploit the weaknesses of the enemies and discover new battlegrounds.
Nothing else to do with these ships in ED.
Did I miss something the last years, playing that game? Did I wasted my time the last years playing this very game wrong?
Schame on me.
Edit: fleshing out misstyping, refining wording
You deliver batallions of soldiers to the battlefield with your Orca.
With the T-Type-Ships you deliver fish and tea to supply those groundforces.
With the AspX and DBX you exploit the weaknesses of the enemies and discover new battlegrounds.
Nothing else to do with these ships in ED.
Did I miss something the last years, playing that game? Did I wasted my time the last years playing this very game wrong?
Schame on me.
Edit: fleshing out misstyping, refining wording
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Plus, Simon Quinlank is a good mental image of everyone here (including me!)
... and a rotten horse corpse is technically food.
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Ultimately, I think the PvP argument is moot - there are a myriad of unpredictable circumstances around combat logging and menu-logging is fair game by FD's own ruling.
I get it, you hate combat logging but your "alleged solution" is far too punitive to be considered reasonable. True combat logging as FD rules covers a myriad of concerns and deliberate combat logging is an EULA breech subject to account level response on the part of FD. The problem is any such response needs to be subject to proof that the incidents in question were deliberate and there in lies the rub.
I have had numerous issues with my internet connection messing up at random times but luckily for me it never happens while I am in ED, if you have a suspicion that any given combat logging incident was deliberate then you should report the incidents to FD - unless they get the reports they can not investigate and it is up to them to deal with such reports on a case by case basis.
Where engineering on the whole is concerned, if FD were to address the core issue with the overall balance of the combat side (something which is a bit borked with at least some of the meta builds) then at least some of the issues around both ganking and combat logging would be addressed.
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Except ED is not strictly speaking a PvP game, it has PvP enabled but that is another matter entirely. As for "bad connections", such issues are typically regional in nature, intermittent, unpredictable, and completely outside of the individual's control to a very large extent.
I would actually disagree on this point - Microsoft Freelancer has a pretty good flight model and support for player managed servers, it only really lacks the MMO tag and the graphics are not quite as good (and it lacks VR but that is a "first world" problem).
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My main concern about engineering from the beginning is engineering for weapons (and shields). A player has plenty of choices in weapons, engineering them is not needed. Putting engineering grind walls in front of more powerful weapons allows ppl who only care about combat to build super powerful ships to kill with. I venture to say most casual and new players don't have the time in-game, or the desire to spend days grinding for the best engineers and best engineered weapons. For combat imho, the playing field should be fairly level with the different weapon types and grades being the only variable; thus player skill and weapons loadout determines the outcome.
A person who wants to explore or trade or run passengers around are always going to be at a disadvantage (sometimes huge disadvantages) if pulled from SC by a god-like combat ship. From the beginning to about a year ago I avoided combat to do the things I enjoy doing in this game. Weapons engineering has given combat focussed commanders major advantages over new and casual players.
carry on ... GL HF
A person who wants to explore or trade or run passengers around are always going to be at a disadvantage (sometimes huge disadvantages) if pulled from SC by a god-like combat ship. From the beginning to about a year ago I avoided combat to do the things I enjoy doing in this game. Weapons engineering has given combat focussed commanders major advantages over new and casual players.
carry on ... GL HF
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Maybe FD need to boil a frog?
Each week FD slowly reduce the stats on shields and weapons- no-one would ever suspect! And give a year we'd all have balance.
Each week FD slowly reduce the stats on shields and weapons- no-one would ever suspect! And give a year we'd all have balance.
Not really viable, what you are talking about is effective capping when the actual approach arguably should be balanced and reasonable trade-offs.
I'd just do it for a laugh frankly. Sort of like reducing the salt and sugar content of fast food.
That does get noticed.... only those who have already killed their taste buds might disagree.
The suggestion is not even funny, and ignores various issues with doing as you suggest.
I think someone needs to drink less of the GloomShakes and lighten up a tad.