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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
babelfisch said:
Let's see...
Burke: Add the ADS again!
Robert Maynard: Open PvE sounds like a good idea.
Rubbernuke: How about fixing PP?
Old Duck: I would complain about EBL, luckily I bought a notebook. I suggest everyone should dust off his router at least once per week.
Kenneth: Small Seismic Charges anyone?
Flimley: \o/
Stigbob: There are no bugs if you act like they aren't there.
T.j.: Nothing of this is my fault. (it is)
Yamiks: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheYamiks
Riverside: I am not saying I want a refund for my LEP, but I absolutely deserve it.
NNE: Engineers killed the game.
Stuart: posts meme
Stealthie: Strangely relieved not to be in that list.
M00ka: me too
Ziggy: I just want to watch the world burn Mr. Babelfisch.
Pink haired clowns: Make the game open only or we kill it.
FDEV: Something is going to happen soon, we are so excited.



Sounds very predictable to me.
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I didn't make the list! Does that mean i'm completely not memorable or i can't be decomposed down to a meme? 😳
 

Stigbob

Stigbob
Riverside said:
That I haven't is precisely the problem. You have what you paid for, because you bought horizons.

Once more I will remind you that I did not bring this topic up, however I do feel it is necessary to clarify misconceptions.
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You don't understand what an LEP is or the time it has to be judged over. That's the misconception.
 

Riverside

Riverside
Stigbob said:
You don't understand what an LEP is or the time it has to be judged over. That's the misconception.
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I have been chasing up information regarding this matter since the 2.1 delay was announced. At every point my concerns have proved valid, and continue to do so.

But you never know, maybe something will change? I don't think it will, so I'm looking to get out of what has (to me) clearly become a bad deal. Since nothing has materially changed I think my request for information or a refund (of the unredeemed value) is a reasonable stance to take four years after purchase.
 

Stigbob

Stigbob
Riverside said:
I have been chasing up information regarding this matter since the 2.1 delay was announced. At every point my concerns have proved valid, and continue to do so.

But you never know, maybe something will change? I don't think it will, so I'm looking to get out of what has (to me) clearly become a bad deal. Since nothing has materially changed I think my request for information or a refund (of the unredeemed value) is a reasonable stance to take four years after purchase.
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We have the information, paid DLC dropping in late 2020.

This is too grindy and I don't need the mats <high-wakes>.
 

Ignition

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Commander Danicus said:
Posters superior to NPCs in game.
PVP more personal and bloody than in game.
Get new content continuously and updates faster.
Learn lore, see sights, watch fights with greater depth and context.
Deeper and more useful knowledge base than codex.
Discussion around crafting more engaging than in-game crafting practice.
Discussion around optimization of in game time (reduction of in game time) more interesting than in game time.

Elite Dangerous is an add on to the Forum not the other way around.
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The interaction on the forums is much bigger than the interactions with NPCs and enviroment in-game.
 

Riverside

Riverside
Stigbob said:
We have the information, paid DLC dropping in late 2020.
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I already addressed your point in the post you quoted:

Riverside said:
At every point my concerns have proved valid, and continue to do so.

But you never know, maybe something will change?
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Here's the thing. It doesn't matter to anyone that owns the base game, or the base game & Horizons. However much the player paid, whether that was £10 or £10,000 the product that was ordered has been delivered and anything extra (like personal carriers) is just a bonus. Bug fixes maybe are an issue, but you got what you paid for & whether it was good value or not is up to you to decide. Maybe some lacking features are a sore point.

I bought a Lifetime Pass in 2015. I had the choice to pre-order Horizons or pay extra for all future updates. So that extra I paid in good faith has not yet been consumed, it is unredeemed because there has been nothing since, not even poor value, nothing at all.

Had I pre-ordered Horizons instead I'd still have everything I have now (maybe not the snowman bobblehead ;)), I would have played just as much, and the hours I have in the game, playing with base+Horizons content is not a factor. Maybe I would have spent more on cosmetics because I wasn't frustrated by having to chase up the LEP thing, who knows?

I have zero time played on the unredeemed part of that Lifetime pass, nothing premium has been released since Horizons. I could assume that money is gone forever, but personally I'd rather have it back and revert my account to a standard Horizons one and buy any future updates when or if they materialise.

Because after the LEP customers were overlooked in the FX17 conference announcement, chasing that up to get a firm 'end of 2018', then as the end of 2018 approached chasing that up at the Cologne party, an apology (which I appreciated) arrived with some token free cosmetics and a new date far beyond reasonable expectation considering the information we had received up to that point and how close the apology was to that earlier date estimate, well it seems to me the reasonable thing to do is accept things have not gone to plan & allow those that want to to back out of the LEP.
 
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babelfisch

babelfisch
Riverside said:
I already addressed your point in the post you quoted:



Here's the thing. It doesn't matter to anyone that owns the base game, or the base game & Horizons. However much the player paid, whether that was £10 or £10,000 the product that was ordered has been delivered and anything extra (like personal carriers) is just a bonus. Bug fixes maybe are an issue, but you got what you paid for & whether it was good value or not is up to you to decide. Maybe some lacking features are a sore point.

I bought a Lifetime Pass in 2015. I had the choice to pre-order Horizons or pay extra for all future updates. So that extra I paid in good faith has not yet been consumed, it is unredeemed because there has been nothing since, not even poor value, nothing at all.

Had I pre-ordered Horizons instead I'd still have everything I have now (maybe not the snowman bobblehead ;)), I would have played just as much, and the hours I have in the game, playing with base+Horizons content is not a factor. Maybe I would have spent more on cosmetics because I wasn't frustrated by having to chase up the LEP thing, who knows?

I have zero time played on the unredeemed part of that Lifetime pass, nothing premium has been released since Horizons. I could assume that money is gone forever, but personally I'd rather have it back and revert my account to a standard Horizons one and buy any future updates when or if they materialise.

Because after the LEP customers were overlooked in the FX17 conference announcement, chasing that up to get a firm 'end of 2018', then as the end of 2018 approached chasing that up at the Cologne party, an apology (which I appreciated) arrived with some token free cosmetics and a new date far beyond reasonable expectation considering the information we had received up to that point and how close the apology was to that earlier date estimate, well it seems to me the reasonable thing to do is accept things have not gone to plan & allow those that want to to back out of the LEP.
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The paid 2020 update will be free for LEP owners. I guess after Horizons nobody expected that it would take 5 years until they release the next paid expansion, but that's how it is. No timeframe had been specified other than lifetime.
 

Riverside

Riverside
babelfisch said:
The paid 2020 update will be free for LEP owners. I guess after Horizons nobody expected that it would take 5 years until they release the next paid expansion, but that's how it is. No timeframe had been specified other than lifetime.
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Sure. That doesn't stop me wanting to back out of it, does it? Did you spot the entitlement in my posts? Because it wasn't there buddy.

This whole thread should just be deleted.
 

babelfisch

babelfisch
Riverside said:
Sure. That doesn't stop me wanting to back out of it, does it? Did you spot the entitlement in my posts? Because it wasn't there buddy.
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You are free to want what you want... ;)

This whole thread should just be deleted.
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So far it was just harmless humour. If you can't laugh about it, that's unfortunate. There are enough threads where we can take things seriously.
 

Riverside

Riverside
babelfisch said:
My intention wasn't to mock anyone, but if it really offends you I could remove you from that list. For me everyone on it is a forum legend... :)
Or you suggest a typical Babelfisch comment and I'll add it.
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I appreciate the gesture Babelfish but while you can edit your own post the damage has been done.

I have requested the thread be deleted, if it is not hopefully I have clarified sufficiently. Harmless fun at someone elses expense (without their explicit consent) isn't harmless.
 
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Stigbob

Stigbob
Riverside said:
I appreciate the gesture Babelfish but while you can edit your own post the damage has been done.

I have requested the thread be deleted, if it is not hopefully I have clarified sufficiently. Harmless fun at someone elses expense (without their explicit consent) isn't harmless.
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He made a joke, he included me in it (and he's right) which made me laugh. I repped him and I made a joke back.

If you'd posted "they should hurry up before me and Rafe Zetter's class action suit brings FDEV down" people would also have laughed. Its only got this way because you've done exactly what he joked you had a habit of doing.
 
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