Dangerous Discussion > Elite Dangerous

[Rat Catcher]

Noooooo! Don't exempt me. Where's the fun in that?

You forum high waked out on me.

edit: I had to look up inimicable. I learned a new word today, and it's a goodie

I was going to CLog on you, but I like your style way to much to be that callous

 

[Globusdiablo]

...edit: I had to look up inimicable. I learned a new word today, and it's a goodie

I don't know. It seems a bit verbose if you ask me.

Spoiler

I'll show myself out.

 

[Stigbob]

There is one aspect of DD that intrigues me and to be honest I haven't seen this aspect on other gaming forums I have been part of. It is the Forum Zombie, that person that not only doesn't play the game anymore but in some instances, boasts about that fact yet they still continue to frequent the forum. I just can't work out why they bother, are they hoping that FD will see their regular posts and take pity on them and change the game to suit them? Are they hoping that FD will hire them to fix the game since they know what is wrong with it and how to fix it? Is it as simple as because they no longer enjoy the game they want to ensure no one else does either? Or do they really want the game to be shut down, so they can tell us they were right in their assessment of FD all along?

All I know is there is a growing list of them that I now consider totally irrelevant to any discussion on the game, simply because they haven't played the game (even if they say they are experts in that area, you don't become expert by watching a couple of You-tube videos).

Forum zombies are angry ex-players looking for opportunities to groan about the game, anyone who likes it and the dev's. Its an odd thing to do, but there will be edge cases given millions of copies have been sold. Its significant (I think) that you never see them on Inara and is probably just down to moderation policies. I've heard that a lot of gaming forums ban anyone who rage quits specifically to stop ongoing toxicity like that. We don't have that here so over time their numbers build up to the point where mobs of them descend on threads.

Have a look at this thread from a returning player 12 posts (ish) before the first proper reply :

Been away for 2 years, now back. Looking for suggestions of new interesting features.

As the title states, it's been on a rather long hiatus for a number of reasons but in that time i have literally not kept up with the games development, news, youtube vids, etc. I jumped back on yesterday for first to see what's changed in the interface, took my unshielded Cutter out for a spin...

forums.frontier.co.uk

Misery loves company, its just down to resentment of the happier people.

Ziggy isn't forum undead, he's happy for us to be happy.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I'm not a forum dad, I'm not a forum undead.

You have placed me in an existential conundrum my friend. I now think I might be a figment of my own imagination.

 

[Globusdiablo]

I'm not a forum dad, I'm not a forum undead.

You have placed me in an existential conundrum my friend. I now think I might be a figment of my own imagination.

I wouldn't presume to toot another mans horn (or would I?... who can tell these days?...), but I consider you forum deity. Live with it.

 

[Riverside]

He made a joke, he included me in it (and he's right) which made me laugh. I repped him and I made a joke back.

If you'd posted "they should hurry up before me and Rafe Zetter's class action suit brings FDEV down" people would also have laughed. Its only got this way because you've done exactly what he joked you had a habit of doing.

There is no joke there, it is an unprompted personal attack. "If I had behaved in a different way" is endorsing abuse.

 

[VR SenseiMatty]

Can we say that the forum update we had few months ago is the biggest and probably the best update we received so far since Horizons?
It also respected the tradition of a bugged launch with a couple of fix iterations.

 

[Stigbob]

There is no joke there, it is an unprompted personal attack. "If I had behaved in a different way" is endorsing abuse.

The only thing I'm endorsing is humour. Its a bit difficult to claim it was a totally unfounded attack when you went on to do exactly what he parodied anyway.

 

[Riverside]

The only thing I'm endorsing is humour. Its a bit difficult to claim it was a totally unfounded attack when you went on to do exactly what he parodied anyway.

Read the words I wrote Stigbob, not what you assumed I wrote.

 

[Stigbob]

Read the words I wrote Stigbob, not what you assumed I wrote.

Getting grindy again.

 

[Riverside]

Getting grindy again.

Because you misread what was written, and find being corrected unenjoyable?

 

[Globusdiablo]

Being humorous at the expense of others is always a slippery slope. If I offend someone and they let me know, I usually apologise immediately, unless my intention is to offend. Seeing as both commanders are bright bulbs a solution ought to be close at hand.

Come on guys, shake hands!

Edit: I prefer my forum PvP casual.

 

[Riverside]

Being humorous at the expense of others is always a slippery slope. If I offend someone and they let me know, I usually apologise immediately, unless my intention is to offend. Seeing as both commanders are bright bulbs a solution ought to be close at hand.

Come on guys, shake hands!

Edit: I prefer my forum PvP casual.

That has already happened:

My intention wasn't to mock anyone, but if it really offends you I could remove you from that list. For me everyone on it is a forum legend...
Or you suggest a typical Babelfisch comment and I'll add it.

I appreciate the gesture Babelfish but while you can edit your own post the damage has been done.

I have requested the thread be deleted, if it is not hopefully I have clarified sufficiently. Harmless fun at someone elses expense (without their explicit consent) isn't harmless.

 

[Globusdiablo]

That has already happened:

Ah. Very good. Forum PvP it is then. Carry on.

 

[Stigbob]

Because you misread what was written, and find being corrected unenjoyable?

Nope. Its because you are wrong, ignore inconvenient facts substituting your own wild theory crafting instead and tend to drone on more than a bit about how disappointed you are when reality happens.

Your failed attempts to close this thread are a good example of that.

 

[Old Duck]

Besides that, there's quite a few oddball characters here who I enjoy talking to.

Thank you!

 

[Riverside]

Nope. Its because you are wrong, ignore inconvenient facts substituting your own wild theory crafting instead and tend to drone on more than a bit about how disappointed you are when reality happens.

Your failed attempts to close this thread are a good example of that.

You say I have failed, and not that I haven't yet succeeded. This is at odds with your stance on the LEP thing. Your logic is inconsistent and I think you will just say anything or take any position that you think opposes the one you want to oppose.

I'm not trying to get it closed btw, I'm fielding while waiting for the thread to be deleted, on the contingency that it is not deleted.

 

[Globusdiablo]

Because you misread what was written, and find being corrected unenjoyable?

Nope. Its because you are wrong, ignore inconvenient facts substituting your own wild theory crafting instead and tend to drone on more than a bit about how disappointed you are when reality happens.

Your failed attempts to close this thread are a good example of that.

You're both so predictable and deliberately obtuse...

Spoiler

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

babelfisch:

 

[Chaparral]

I already addressed your point in the post you quoted:



Here's the thing. It doesn't matter to anyone that owns the base game, or the base game & Horizons. However much the player paid, whether that was £10 or £10,000 the product that was ordered has been delivered and anything extra (like personal carriers) is just a bonus. Bug fixes maybe are an issue, but you got what you paid for & whether it was good value or not is up to you to decide. Maybe some lacking features are a sore point.

I bought a Lifetime Pass in 2015. I had the choice to pre-order Horizons or pay extra for all future updates. So that extra I paid in good faith has not yet been consumed, it is unredeemed because there has been nothing since, not even poor value, nothing at all.

Had I pre-ordered Horizons instead I'd still have everything I have now (maybe not the snowman bobblehead ), I would have played just as much, and the hours I have in the game, playing with base+Horizons content is not a factor. Maybe I would have spent more on cosmetics because I wasn't frustrated by having to chase up the LEP thing, who knows?

I have zero time played on the unredeemed part of that Lifetime pass, nothing premium has been released since Horizons. I could assume that money is gone forever, but personally I'd rather have it back and revert my account to a standard Horizons one and buy any future updates when or if they materialise.

Because after the LEP customers were overlooked in the FX17 conference announcement, chasing that up to get a firm 'end of 2018', then as the end of 2018 approached chasing that up at the Cologne party, an apology (which I appreciated) arrived with some token free cosmetics and a new date far beyond reasonable expectation considering the information we had received up to that point and how close the apology was to that earlier date estimate, well it seems to me the reasonable thing to do is accept things have not gone to plan & allow those that want to to back out of the LEP.

Super meta.