Illogical Fertility Ratings

[MaximusSC]

I'm sorry, but this makes no logical sense to me:

Both animals are compatible and both have a 100% fertility rating yet when comparing the two for mating the fertility potential suggests they won't have any offspring? Or eeve if they do have offspring their offspring's fertility will be zero? Huh? I highly doubt that DNA being passed along works that way. Maybe someone can explain because I'm at a loss here.

 

[nightcat]

100% probability for offspring.
But the offspring will get fertility rating between 0 and 100%. Probably the parents are distantly related and/or carry a very similar gene for fertility.

 

[MaximusSC]

100% probability for offspring.
But the offspring will get fertility rating between 0 and 100%. Probably the parents are distantly related and/or carry a very similar gene for fertility.

If that's true then there needs to be a better indicator in the game that shows the relationship between the animals.

It still makes no logical sense when the two animals are shown to being 100% compatible.

 

[nightcat]

Why not?
It's very likely that they will have offspring - it has nothing to do with how "good" same offspring will be.

I think there are just different kind of genes for fertility. Let's call them fertility1, fertility2, f3...
Whenever you combine two animals with the same fertility gene, the fertility of the offspring will go down.
Offspring will get a randomly selected fertility-gene of the parents.

Which means:
Two totally unrelated animals can have the same fertility-gene.
Two related animals can have different fertility genes (like, one from the father, the other from the mother).

Maybe it's even more complex than that, but I'm pretty sure it goes in this direction.

 

[MaximusSC]

Why not?
It's very likely that they will have offspring - it has nothing to do with how "good" same offspring will be.

I think there are just different kind of genes for fertility. Let's call them fertility1, fertility2, f3...
Whenever you combine two animals with the same fertility gene, the fertility of the offspring will go down.
Offspring will get a randomly selected fertility-gene of the parents.

Which means:
Two totally unrelated animals can have the same fertility-gene.
Two related animals can have different fertility genes (like, one from the father, the other from the mother).

Maybe it's even more complex than that, but I'm pretty sure it goes in this direction.

It's simple. If two animals are 100% compatible then there shouldn't be an issue at all in any way, shape or form between the animals and the offspring they produce. If animals are 100% compatible then all the animals genes are compatible (including the fertility genes). Therefore, mating those two animals should have a greater chance of producing offspring that carry the genes of their parents. IF there is a risk or a conflict anywhere within the gene pool of the two parent animals then the two animals aren't 100% compatible. Not even if there is only a 1% chance that the animals offspring might have lesser genes.

 

[Monsarona]

The top 100% is just their chance of conceiving when they mate with each other. Not their over-all compatibility.

 

[nightcat]

The top 100% is just their chance of conceiving when they mate with each other. Not their over-all compatibility.

This.

It has nothing to do with how "compatible" the animals are. It just tells you how likely they will reproduce.
And every offspring carrys the genes of the parents. But genes are not the stats, you can't see the genes.

Combining the same genes = lower stats.

 

[carazan]

I saw somewhere that if you have diverse genes it's easier to narrow it down? Ie 20% fertility bred to a 90% fertility... Will narrow it down? Not sure how that works

 

[nightcat]

How do you mean it will narrow it down?

As far as my expierence goes, especially the first two stats go way better if both parents have high stats. Fertility and immunity vary way more - it's very important that the parents have different genes and therefore on the last two stats different genes >> high stats. But ideally you have just both.

 

[nosnos01]

I saw somewhere that if you have diverse genes it's easier to narrow it down? Ie 20% fertility bred to a 90% fertility... Will narrow it down? Not sure how that works

That works to some extend.

For me it makes sense this way.
Otherwise once you have a 4x 100 male and a 4x 100 female, you will have 4x 100 offspring for the rest of their lives, and that would be very OP..

 

[Llamadrama]

Honestly, the fertility ratings make no sense and are probably broken. You can just as easily breed two animals with 0% fertility, but probably with a bit less frequency.

I'd rather low fertility actually be infertility to punish and teach people about how bad inbreeding is.