Dinosaurs Indominus Rex needs to socialize with Velociraptors

zelklen

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The Indominus Rex needs to have a social gene mod that will cause it to socialize with raptors.

Even if mechanically, the gene just changed the Indominus Rex so that it 'was' a raptor behind the scenes, and joined the raptor pack, I would be very happy with that.

This is the one thing that I want more then anything else in the game. In my park. And it is quite easy to do (compared to actually adding new content).
 

MarcWP

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Doubt this will happen. It has Raptor DNA, but I highly doubt, that it would tolerate other animals eating from the same food source. It's known for killing siblings...
 

Stutter11

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I remember suggesting this a while back. I'd still love to see it.

MarcWP said:
Doubt this will happen. It has Raptor DNA, but I highly doubt, that it would tolerate other animals eating from the same food source. It's known for killing siblings...
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I mean, the Indominus accepted the role of alpha of the raptors in the movie. Frontier should incorporate more ideas from the movies into JWE, including this one. Given the nature of the Indominus, maybe there should be a wildcard: any raptors introduced into the Indominus' enclosure will have a chance to be rejected by the Indominus, in which it will kill the raptor.
 

zelklen

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Stutter11 said:
I remember suggesting this a while back. I'd still love to see it.
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I also suggested this on the old forum last year.

I am all for more complicated solutions that still solve the same objective: the indominus socializing with raptors. But as it is currently, the A.I.s in the game for the dinosaurs are pretty simple currently, so what I am asking for is the simple mechanics change.
 
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gabeluna27

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A gene option to do this sounds too contrived for this game. I think this would be more like a free update feature kind of thing.

I don't know if this will be in the next big free update, but we will wait and see. If not, there are always the next ones after, if so.
 
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zelklen

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I thought that a gene would be a good middle ground, as some people expressly don't want this. So if it was a gene, then you could put it on the indominous if you wanted it to.

The gene could even be called "Velociraptor Socialized" or something to that effect. I would pay 5$ for it. But I agree, it seems like such a trivial thing, it might as well be free.
 

Elise the Indominus rex

Elise the Indominus rex
MarcWP said:
Doubt this will happen. It has Raptor DNA, but I highly doubt, that it would tolerate other animals eating from the same food source. It's known for killing siblings...
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Sorry, wrong. The movie just stated that she ate her sibling (Tyrannosaurus and Majungasaurus opted to cannibalise, the Indominus had their DNA), but the sibling's cause of death is unknown. Nobody ever stated she killed it.
 

Elise the Indominus rex

Elise the Indominus rex
I agree, this would be cool. The Indominus is already accepting small carnivores, including Raptors, in its territory, but they keep panicking all the time due to the hybrid's mere presence. Annoying. Add this genome (and don't you dare to let it be part of a DLC or Expansion Pack, its camouflage ability should've been base game as well) and it would spice things about the Indominus up a bit because currently it is like "kill-everything" which is a bit dull. And no, it is wrong to just copy the Indominus' behaviour in JWE from the specimen's behaviour in the movie; latter acted like she did due to the way she was raised, it is just plain wrong to make the entire species act the same way. Same for the Indoraptor.
 

MarcWP

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Elise the Indominus rex said:
Sorry, wrong. The movie just stated that she ate her sibling (Tyrannosaurus and Majungasaurus opted to cannibalise, the Indominus had their DNA), but the sibling's cause of death is unknown. Nobody ever stated she killed it.
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Hahahha. So you think the sibling just died on its own? It clearly killed it, if you read between the lines. Hence why they call the Indominus a killing machine. Killing for sport. Of course it killed the sibling.

"Though they do hunt for food, one known I. rex was shown to kill mainly for sport. This individual also was known to have committed cannibalism, as she killed and ate her own sibling, which was the first thing she did as soon as she hatched".
 

Elise the Indominus rex

Elise the Indominus rex
MarcWP said:
Hahahha. So you think the sibling just died on its own? It clearly killed it, if you read between the lines. Hence why they call the Indominus a killing machine. Killing for sport. Of course it killed the sibling.

"Though they do hunt for food, one known I. rex was shown to kill mainly for sport. This individual also was known to have committed cannibalism, as she killed and ate her own sibling, which was the first thing she did as soon as she hatched".
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No, I'm not saying it died on its own, I'm just saying that its cause of death is unknown. Which it is. It might be somewhat implied she actively killed her, but because it never got proven it cannot be treated as a fact. Fact.
Killing machine is just an exaggeration to describe something being a fierce and effective fighter, sometimes also to describe something lacking empathy in fight. The word does not have to be meant literally.

Masrani: "Say, I thought there were two of them?"
Claire: "There was a sibling in case this one didn't survive infancy."
Masrani: "Where's the sibling?"
Claire: "She ate it."

There you got it, quoted from the movie, they did even expect that one of the siblings might die by natural reasons, not surviving infancy. Thus it is very much possible that it just died shortly after eclosion or later because it was too weak, sick or whatever and then got eaten by her sister.

Regarding "KiLliNg fOr SpOrT", Owen and Claire just saw the result of the Indominus' attack on the Apatosaurus herd. We don't know whether she really felt like "oh, killing is fun" or just instincts overtook her, similar to sharks falling into bloodlust. Or house cats killing prey like mice but not eating them. We - don't - know.

The text in JWE isn't a very good one because it portrays assumptions as facts. It's not like we don't know whether she killed her sibling at all, we have even less knowledge about WHEN she could've killed her. It could've happened right after eclosion, it could've happened after two days, a week, a month, a bloody year. WE. DON'T. KNOW. The InGen data base in JWE has no proof or source to what it is stating as facts.

Your "argumentation" is based upon a bunch of assumptions. Prove me wrong.
 

MarcWP

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Elise the Indominus rex said:
No, I'm not saying it died on its own, I'm just saying that its cause of death is unknown. Which it is. It might be somewhat implied she actively killed her, but because it never got proven it cannot be treated as a fact. Fact.
Killing machine is just an exaggeration to describe something being a fierce and effective fighter, sometimes also to describe something lacking empathy in fight. The word does not have to be meant literally.

Masrani: "Say, I thought there were two of them?"
Claire: "There was a sibling in case this one didn't survive infancy."
Masrani: "Where's the sibling?"
Claire: "She ate it."

There you got it, quoted from the movie, they did even expect that one of the siblings might die by natural reasons, not surviving infancy. Thus it is very much possible that it just died shortly after eclosion or later because it was too weak, sick or whatever and then got eaten by her sister.

Regarding "KiLliNg fOr SpOrT", Owen and Claire just saw the result of the Indominus' attack on the Apatosaurus herd. We don't know whether she really felt like "oh, killing is fun" or just instincts overtook her, similar to sharks falling into bloodlust. Or house cats killing prey like mice but not eating them. We - don't - know.

The text in JWE isn't a very good one because it portrays assumptions as facts. It's not like we don't know whether she killed her sibling at all, we have even less knowledge about WHEN she could've killed her. It could've happened right after eclosion, it could've happened after two days, a week, a month, a bloody year. WE. DON'T. KNOW. The InGen data base in JWE has no proof or source to what it is stating as facts.

Your "argumentation" is based upon a bunch of assumptions. Prove me wrong.
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And your theory is not assumptions? :LOL:
 

Elise the Indominus rex

Elise the Indominus rex
MarcWP said:
And your theory is not assumptions? :LOL:
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Of course it is an assumption, however, contrary to you, I'm not stating it's true. I'm bringing up several scenarios, her killing her sister, her sister dying due to natural reasons, and saying in the end "all of these are possible, we don't know what happened". I'm stating that all we can bring up are assumptions, however, we cannot treat any of those as a fact because we don't know how, when and why the sibling died. While you take an assumption and portray it as a fact.

And by the way, stop using emojis/smileys and saying "hahaha", it gives me the feeling I'm talking to a child.

Since you basically ignored all the arguments I brought up, I assume you cannot prove me wrong. Just stop treating things as facts which aren't.
 

MarcWP

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Elise the Indominus rex said:
Of course it is an assumption, however, contrary to you, I'm not stating it's true. I'm bringing up several scenarios, her killing her sister, her sister dying due to natural reasons, and saying in the end "all of these are possible, we don't know what happened". I'm stating that all we can bring up are assumptions, however, we cannot treat any of those as a fact because we don't know how, when and why the sibling died. While you take an assumption and portray it as a fact.

And by the way, stop using emojis/smileys and saying "hahaha", it gives me the feeling I'm talking to a child.

Since you basically ignored all the arguments I brought up, I assume you cannot prove me wrong. Just stop treating things as facts which aren't.
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Almost everything we know about dinosaurs are assumptions. But if she just ate the carcass, there was no reason for the scene to be that dramatic. And Claire would just have said "She died, unfortunately". It's pretty obvious that the scene is meant to mean she killed the sibling, in the whole way it is set up.

And I never stated anything as facts. I'm just saying that most places you look, it will state it killed the sibling. So that's what she's known for.

And I'll laugh when I want to. Just stop replying, if it bothers you...
 
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Elise the Indominus rex

Elise the Indominus rex
MarcWP said:
Almost everything we know about dinosaurs are assumptions. But if she just ate the carcass, there was no reason for the scene to be that dramatic. And Claire would just have said "She died, unfortunately". It's pretty obvious that the scene is meant to mean she killed the sibling, in the whole way it is set up.
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The scene was hardly dramatic.
No, Claire's statement "She ate it" can both refer to the Indominus actively killing her sister (if she did, why didn't Claire mention it? That's quite a striking event, I see no reason why Claire shouldn't mention it) or her just dying due to natural reasons before she gets eaten.

We're getting way too hypothetical here, so let me cut it short.

Yes, the scene shall imply that she killed her sister, that was also my assumption when watching the movie for the first time, BUT, as I said, it is just an assumption and thus cannot be treated as a fact. That's what I want to say.
The Indominus rex is a riddle cloaked in a mystery. The fate of her sister, the way how she grew up and her motivation to kill so many living beings are all unknown. We can bring up many assumptions about it, but:

We
Can't
Treat
Any
Of
Those
As
Facts

No matter how implied it is.
 

MarcWP

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Elise the Indominus rex said:
The scene was hardly dramatic.
No, Claire's statement "She ate it" can both refer to the Indominus actively killing her sister (if she did, why didn't Claire mention it? That's quite a striking event, I see no reason why Claire shouldn't mention it) or her just dying due to natural reasons before she gets eaten.

We're getting way too hypothetical here, so let me cut it short.

Yes, the scene shall imply that she killed her sister, that was also my assumption when watching the movie for the first time, BUT, as I said, it is just an assumption and thus cannot be treated as a fact. That's what I want to say.
The Indominus rex is a riddle cloaked in a mystery. The fate of her sister, the way how she grew up and her motivation to kill so many living beings are all unknown. We can bring up many assumptions about it, but:

We
Can't
Treat
Any
Of
Those
As
Facts

No matter how implied it is.
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No of course not. And I never did. Never used the word facts once. But it still tried to kill everything it came into contact with...
 

Elise the Indominus rex

Elise the Indominus rex
Cool, now we're agreed.
No, you didn't bring up the word "fact", but you treated the theory of the Indominus killing her sibling as a proven one anyway. Basically the definition of the word "fact". ;)

Yes, it did, although we didn't see her all the time during her rampage, theoretically she could've come across some dinosaur she did spare, but that's hypothetical.

I'm just extremely unhappy about the general argumentation argueing "meh, she was just evil". That's just rubbish.
 

zelklen

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I think we can all agree though, that having the option in game, to cause the Indominus Rex to socialize with raptors (instead of using the social gene slot to let it socialize with other Indominus Rexs), would be amazing.
 
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