❄ Planet Zoo: Arctic Pack coming 17 December ❄

Chante Goodman

Community Manager
Frontier
marcnesiumHH said:
great that you continue scenrios, many games do not do that.
but what's the reason combining an arctic animals DLC with a desert mexican scene?
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You'll see when you play the scenario. The Arctic Pack will definitely challenge you to really appreciate animal welfare - if you want animals like those included in this pack, it's imperative to understand that they need to come first - no matter the animal or the zoos location!
 

howardbells

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Just a perspective:

Hearts of Stone for the W3 cost $10 USD. Imagine the amount of content there.

How to define if something is worth the money? I guess it's subjective. I don't think supporting the practice of $10 USD DLC with 4 animals and 200 assests is the correct decision. If everyone does that, what will we get in the future?

I also don't like an indirect assumption that financing the company by purchasing the DLC is a way to say thank you for a big update, or even updates.

KaoRu said:
Will you also add Penguins and Sea Lions at some point?
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Most likely. Probably for another 5 USD or so.
 

Michael77

Michael77
BernyMoon said:
That sounds awesome, but we need penguins :(
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Be patient. I think your are not the only who is waiting for penguins. I think that frontier will release a DLC next year maybe in spring, which exists of water animals like Pinguins, Seals, Otters or walruses. I think they also know that water-animals are a must for zoo Simulation game. Also an Aquarium DLC would be great. But up to this momement let's be happy about this awesome DLC. It's great, that we get the polar Bears now. With the snow Leopard and the Isabel bear now we have some great animals to build an arctic zoo.
 

Swjosdotschka

Swjosdotschka
howardbells said:
And that is understandable. Releasing huge updates for free is not unique in the gaming industry. I appreciate that, I really do. But I won't appreciate and won't support releasing DLC with 4 animals for 1/5 of the game's price. It's a choice customers make, and good for those who are willing to pay. Sometimes 10 dollars is a price of a whole indie game, or a big story arc, etc etc. Sometimes, it's a price of one weapon. The choice is ours to make.
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Don't know where you live, but where I live, I can't even watch a movie in the cinema for 10 €. I can maybe get 4 coffees. I will definately have more fun with this pack. And for a longer time than with 4 coffees to go. I guess it's all about perspective.
You are right, everyone decides for theirselfs and that's fine. I just really think we should not forget how many people are working even on such small packs and they all deserve to be paid fair for their work. And we are getting free content for the pack as well. Things Frontier does not have to do.
Yes, indie games are cheap. But the people behind indie games often have a second job and struggle financially. I really don't want that for any hard working being.
 

howardbells

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The game is available worldwide, so the exact country doesn't matter.

The common practice of charging something like 1/5 or 1/4 for small DLC is what matters in today's gaming. The real people - developers - absolutely deserve to be paid. But the majority of the money usually goes to stakeholders.

I would compare the current DLC price for Planet Zoo with infamous BioWare practice of DLC for Mass Effect and Dragon Age, where they charged for armors and items. Or with the current practice of DLC for the Sims 4. I can't support that. If we continue to support such practices, it will only get worse and worse with time.

What I'm ready to support is the model CDProject Red uses. Or Larian uses. Hearts of Stone is massive content. It had amazing scenes, quests and NPCs. D:OS 2 got free content packs during this year. Just look at the amount of items there. For free. And yes, both companies also released huge updates to their games, including the Enhanced Editions for free for the owners of original games.
 

Stef

Stef
Is there some kind of Season Pass to get all the future updates or do we have to buy them all single?
 

inspectorgadget1

inspectorgadget1
howardbells said:
Hmm, while I was looking forward to arctic animals, I didn't expect it would be 10 dollars for 4 new animals and 200 assets. It's like 2.5 dollars per animal, while the base game was 50 dollars for 80 of them. Sorry.
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howardbells said:
But I won't appreciate and won't support releasing DLC with 4 animals for 1/5 of the game's price.
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Well if you're looking it that way you're getting 2 scenarios and 200 assets for free (for some reason you're basing everything on how many animals are included) What price do you think is reasonable? 5 dollars?
 

PeppyPepp

PeppyPepp
howardbells said:
The game is available worldwide, so the exact country doesn't matter.

The common practice of charging something like 1/5 or 1/4 for small DLC is what matters in today's gaming. The real people - developers - absolutely deserve to be paid. But the majority of the money usually goes to stakeholders.

I would compare the current DLC price for Planet Zoo with infamous BioWare practice of DLC for Mass Effect and Dragon Age, where they charged for armors and items. Or with the current practice of DLC for the Sims 4. I can't support that. If we continue to support such practices, it will only get worse and worse with time.

What I'm ready to support is the model CDProject Red uses. Or Larian uses. Hearts of Stone is massive content. It had amazing scenes, quests and NPCs. D:OS 2 got free content packs during this year. Just look at the amount of items there. For free. And yes, both companies also released huge updates to their games, including the Enhanced Editions for free for the owners of original games.
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While I do agree with you that some companies do charge way too much for DLCs I cannot agree with you that 10€ is "too much" for this DLC. This is a themed pack and 4 HABITAT animals (and everything that comes with them) is a lot plus all the building pieces. I mean, building is half the fun! For me, it's worth it because 10€ will bring me hours of endless fun and creativity. I would understand if it were priced 20€ or more, then I certainly wouldn't support it, but 10€ is not that much (and this is coming from someone who is always out on a hunt for the best deals as gaming is a huge hobby of mine and I'm not exactly rolling in cash). I think it's a bit unfair to compare it to RPG games like Dragon Age. It's apples and oranges. Should we compare it to Path Of Exile which is completely free? A massive game with constant updates which provides hours and hours of fun.
 

Sheep

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Any chance that snowy pack will include a snow machine? To cover stuff in snow in zoos where the snow never falls? And rain special effects<3
Rain doesn't automatically turn to snow if it gets cold enough, does it?
 

xTo

xTo
Look at those building materials!!
I mean I personally would have liked to see some more arctic animals included but its obvious those take a lot of time and resources to get right so I guess 4 is fine as long as they aren't carbon copies of their relatives that are already in the game.

As for the price.. I think its fair if you take into account the rare level of communication FD has with its community/players. I'll gladly support you guys and I can't wait for what's coming next! :p
 
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