Thinking about Cyberpunk 2077's gameplay video from 2018. CDPR will have spent almost 2 more years on the game prior to its release and then I look at the SQ42 trailer which does not appear to be anywhere near the same level of completion and can only wonder how many more years they are talking here?
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After 7 years of development CIG released a visual teaser without any gameplay. In 2018, CIG spent $56 million on development with $7 million left in the bank. The $46 million that was intended for marketing was spent on development. Meanwhile Roberts and other senior staff at CIG cash out millions of dollars for an unfinished game per year. SC will flop if the first episode of Squadron 42 doesn't live up to expectations, gets bad reviews and most importantly if it doesn't sell enough copies to make profit. There won't be additional big investors to bail out CIG to continue development of Star Citizen.
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Whilst it looks very impressive i have to bring up CIG's habit of using smoke and mirror techniques to grease the wheels somewhat.
It's just a happy coincidence they're trying to shift a $35000 ship package at the moment.
I don't trust them and i have good reason,lets not forget SQ42 has been claimed to be all but complete years ago,i have to conclude they literally lied about it to grease the wheels and secure more funding by giving the community the impression they are a bonafide games developer.
This is what a fan can produce.
It's... really, really bad. And then it manages to get worse with the space tractor...
Really, actors performance is what I consider B-class movie, boring to the bone, nothing sparks, not a yota. Bad choice of actors too, totally unconvincing really. Music is so so, but all right, Stargate was much better though. I've seen much better low budget productions.
Cake is finished.
Good summary and my impression as well so far. Amazing amount of cash burned, I am sure he had a lot of fun, other folks not so much I'd guess.
Welcome to the rabbit hole friend
The Scientology analogy is a bit far (understandable as it is that you jumped to it). They don’t quite get fans to film their darkest secrets and then hold them on file
. They just sell perpetual dreams instead...So yes you can buy ships for thousands of dollars. Ships that don’t exist in the pre-alpha, and haven’t done for years. It is all true.
You can meet proud Idris owners in this very thread. Guys with more modest ‘Concierge’ collections too. Some burn bright with the belief flame and speak of future glories in the present tense. Others see their cash as more of a lavish offering to the jank gods, and just enjoy shuffling their fleet and enjoying those times when the alpha works
And arrayed around them, like a gaggle of gawpers, are the salty refundians, the perplexed perusers, and some who claim to understand game development...
It’s a proper circus
Enjoy the show
Disclaimer: The 890J costs $950 and is quantity limited...
ED should hire that guy.
Some of it was quietly dropped. Some of it ended up with them paying the licensing fees and royalties. Some infected related projects but was eventually fixed. And some of it — mostly old promotional material — can still be found if you dig deep enough in the archives, but no-one really cares any more.
There's a reason why Ryan Archer become a bit of a meme after all.
No real need. The whole point of the exercise is to demonstrate that it's pretty trivial to do since there are ready-made plugins for it (hence why none of SC's ooh-ahh-look-at-us stuff is ever particularly ooh-aah-worthy: it's all built into the engine or just a quick purchase button away on the closest middleware site).
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Jup, but for some reason a lot of companies refuse to do that. Although they should.
Seems like 3.8 added a lot of haze...
Surfaces look like they might be better all told, but seems like they’ve gone for haze savings in the cityscapes & the like too.
Depends really. I kinda find the ‘Earth like’ nature of CIG’s flora a bit daft, and it probably stems from the third party tools they’re using. A bespoke variant which had more ‘alien’ flora would be better right? But takes more time etc.
Similarly any cloud & liquid tech would have to work with the in-house tech at scale. (CIG’s water looks a lot more meh than that UE build, but it’s kinda understandable given the scale etc)
The biggest reason not to just slap in 3rd party ‘atmospherics’ tech is the gameplay side though. The rainy canopies are lovely and that, but without wind sheer, or storm damage, or volumetric clouds to juke around, it’s all just cosmetic. I know some guys want that, but I don’t really get the appeal of that alone personally.
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PS, what was the answer to this K? Inquiring minds want to know
Did you and your friend earn the caterpillar you mention from starter ships incidentally, with no cred purchases? That would be the true test of there being no paywall
PS, what was the answer to this K? Inquiring minds want to know
Already answered it, we got it using in game money.
I didn't even know you could use real money to buy in game money. Would love to get a link to it because that would be crazy.
Exactly, more customizable and works perfectly with the rest of systems the dev has crated. Plugin is general not custom tailored.
I don't know about that. The middleware market is a market for a reason. Watching any splash screen (to say nothing of credits list) of any modern game will plaster their names all over the place. The reason any particular use or implementation doesn't show up is almost always the same: because it serves no purpose and because companies tend to have competent designers and project managers that scope out and budget what is needed and worth-while. The rest gets jettisoned.
It's just a surface shader. Scale shouldn't even be a factor unless it's really badly done (which of course still explains the SC implementation). The rest is usually just customisations of the plugin — or even its code if the license allows for it — and should be almost equally trivial to tweak since there wouldn't be much of a product if that didn't exist.
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Most of them do use middlewares that also work closely with them and help them optimize it to their game. A plugin from UE4 market place is better suited for a small dev company or a indie team.
Only in the sense that such a small company has fewer manhours at their disposal to tweak things. A large company will still use those plugins — just with more tweaks. Again, that's why (and how) the whole market exist.
Well, this is clearly tier 0 eleveators. Once CIG get the elevator pipelines completed things will work better.
EDIT: Checked comments. Should have guessed. They are defending this as being fine, the elevators just need to stay empty. I'm sorry, what happened to everthing being high fidelity, the dream they were sold? No cheaty dev hacks to make things works!
Amazing the compromises they will accept once CIG actually implement something and modify their dreams to accomodate reality.
Some people think if CIG releases at best a standard space sim at the end of all this a lot of backers will be dissapointed. I don't think so. I think they will celebrate it as being the best game ever and all their dreams that were not fulfilled will be filed under "well, we never really expected any of that anyway"
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Ah ok, can’t see that, but fair play! How much do you guys play per week? That seems like a wodge of creds.
Yeah UEC is purchasable, and planned to remain so post-launch. Check the Store Extras
There’s a daily cap of 25k UEC (approx $30 I think), and there used to be a total cap on how much you could hold but it seems that was removed:
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