ANNOUNCEMENT January Update - Patch 1 Announcement

Zieman

Zieman
mant3z said:
LOL that must be aggresive targoid, Now I get it whenever I do interdiction on cmdr
4 this in a row. Congratulation Frontier, SUPERB patch!
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LOL!

Never play on a patch day! :D
If you really MUST play, do it in solo mode, because the servers will be overloaded with client update downloads and dormant accounts suddenly becoming active for a brief period (to check out if the new update might spark their interest in the game again).
 

Brrokk

Brrokk
Kerrygan said:
A few of us ran a some tests today. We saw the market prices changing by the minute which can be interesting to try and keep track of.

We did however find what we feel is a problem.

Test No. 1

Two ships loaded full of Painite land at the same location, at the same time. My cargo hold is at 256 (Anaconda) Wing ship had a cargo hold of 509 (Cutter). We checked the commodities market at the exact same time, my price on screen (Anaconda) at Ross 71 System - Hopkins terminal shows 931,370 CR , The Cutters price is 628,541 CR over a 300,000 CR difference between the two of us. The demand at the station is 1,190 units and we combined had less than this. To me that feels broken. This does not appear to be market demand driven price but a cargo size issue.

The Anacondas cargo gets sold and is set to zero.

Test. No. 2 - We both exit the station, transfer 102 Painite from the Cutter to the Anaconda and re-enter the station.
The Cutters Price on 389 Painite goes up 731,501 CR and the 102 Panite in the Anacondas hold is 931,370 CR. The same demand at 1,190

Test No. 3 - Once again, exit the station and perform the same procedure. Cutter is now 269 Painite - Anaconda at 210 Painite
Cutters Price is now gone up to : 842,460 CR at the same time the Anacondas price is at 895,049 CR Demand at 1,190

Test No. 4 - Make both ships carry the same amount of 210 Painite - Cutters price: 842,460 CR Anacondas Price : 895,049


Clearly the smaller cargo amounts are generating higher values. This needs to be looked into unless of course, this is being done by design.
Also note the Cutters 53,000 CR less per Ton in Test No.4 at the exact same.

Kerrygan
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Wow. I wonder if that's really working as intended; maybe it's bugged. But if the mere rumour of a big cargo becoming available can depress the price, maybe that's realistic! I also wonder if it's happening with all commodities, not just mined ones. It could make A-B trading more complex.
 

Exigeous

Exigeous
WILLIAM BILL ADAMA said:
Ok, it is fixed.
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Yeah, certainly seems better. I again don't mean to be sour but why did we have a beta again? Was code frozen between beta and now with only bugs reported in beta fixed? I doubt it, which negates the point of the beta. Also I can't recall, did the beta have the new planet generation system in it? If this was seemingly such a fast and easy fix why did we, once again, have to deal with a "bug fix" patch that also once again added a brand new and nearly game-breaking bug? Realistically this patch is what any other major game, like say No Man's Sky, would release on a weekly or bi-weekly basis and we waited 6+ months for it?

I've worked in tech for 25+ years, I know that stuff happens when you release that you may not expect, but it doesn't happen every single time for years and years. And when it does your customers start to expect it, which isn't a good thing for anyone.

~X
 

Hank

H
Sorry for the "duh" question.
I was not able to download the update on the 14th. Today I did the update that I assume was for Jan. 14th. I expected a second update/patch as a second download.
Was the download I did today the 15th, the Update plus patch as a single download ?

My menu page says "Elite.Dangerous January Update-Patch 1". Is that the latest version ?

Thanks and sorry for my ignorance. I didn't have time to read all 7 pages here.
 

Northpin

Northpin
Kerrygan said:
A few of us ran a some tests today. We saw the market prices changing by the minute which can be interesting to try and keep track of.

We did however find what we feel is a problem.

Test No. 1

Two ships loaded full of Painite land at the same location, at the same time. My cargo hold is at 256 (Anaconda) Wing ship had a cargo hold of 509 (Cutter). We checked the commodities market at the exact same time, my price on screen (Anaconda) at Ross 71 System - Hopkins terminal shows 931,370 CR , The Cutters price is 628,541 CR over a 300,000 CR difference between the two of us. The demand at the station is 1,190 units and we combined had less than this. To me that feels broken. This does not appear to be market demand driven price but a cargo size issue.

The Anacondas cargo gets sold and is set to zero.

Test. No. 2 - We both exit the station, transfer 102 Painite from the Cutter to the Anaconda and re-enter the station.
The Cutters Price on 389 Painite goes up 731,501 CR and the 102 Panite in the Anacondas hold is 931,370 CR. The same demand at 1,190

Test No. 3 - Once again, exit the station and perform the same procedure. Cutter is now 269 Painite - Anaconda at 210 Painite
Cutters Price is now gone up to : 842,460 CR at the same time the Anacondas price is at 895,049 CR Demand at 1,190

Test No. 4 - Make both ships carry the same amount of 210 Painite - Cutters price: 842,460 CR Anacondas Price : 895,049


Clearly the smaller cargo amounts are generating higher values. This needs to be looked into unless of course, this is being done by design.
Also note the Cutters 53,000 CR less per Ton in Test No.4 at the exact same.

Kerrygan
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Ian Doncaster said:
Good testing. That's utterly bizarre behaviour, but would certainly explain some of the price info I'm seeing come back from EDDN.

(Also means, I think, that you could maximise profit by selling one tonne at a time, which surely can't be intended!)
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I did some painite mining in a Python last night. Inara prices were all over the place. :(
And i found that alone is waaay more annoying than any other bug/intended behavior the new patch introduced
 

Edgey75

Edgey75
downloaded and played last night, just fired up the launcher and its updating again, anyone else had this issue? is it a new patch? has for some reason my last nights gaming (1am) not happened? did that windows update do me over? confused...
 
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