Grade 5 Manufactured + HGE Suggestion

Before I begin, for the most part, HGE (High Grade Emissions), have too many levels of RNG.
The diagram below is what it takes to find one drop of the correct G5 manufactured material.
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The yellow loop is what people do to avoid this. Lol

As you can see, you need to pass six checks to get one G5 drop. Failing any of those means you either get nothing, or something else, and must start all over again.

My first suggestion is unlink the major and minor faction from the list of things to be correct, and make it so only the minor factions state is what governs what's inside the HGE.
For example, if the HGE says "outbreak", then you can be sure that the contents will be something from the chemical line of manufactured materials, and hopefully from Pharmaceutical Isolators.

For manufactured materials from major factions at war/civil war (Core Dynamic Composites and Imperial Shielding), if the HGE is owned by a faction aligned to a major faction, then spawn something from Composite (Federation) or Shielding (Imperial) lines inside the HGEs. If the faction is Independent, spawn something from the Thermic line (Military Grade Alloys), or Alliance spawn something from the Capacitors line (Military Supercapacitors).
4 major factions at war/civil war, for 4 manufactured groups. Makes sense.

A two G5 manufactured materials (Proto Radiolic Alloys, and Proto Heat Radiators) are both reliant on the Boom state, these should be separated, so 1 replies on Boom, the other on Bust (or something else entirely)

Other G5's are simply not available from anything other than missions.
With plenty of new faction states to play with, these could be assigned to drop from any number of the new states.
Exquisite Focus Crystals and Biotech Conductors, for example, can spawn from states such as Elated, Bust, Expansion or Retreat, and so on.

Or, alternatively a complete overhaul of the HGE spawning system, could use the rarer states as the governing factor for how sought after some G5 materials are, but making sure that those HGEs now contain what you're looking for.
FD knows which states show up less often, and which materials are most sought after, so this should be fairly straightforward.

All that really matters, is if you find the correctly labelled HGE, it should contain material line as stated in the items description.

So a signal source, labelled as "outbreak", in an outbreak system, will contain materials from the chemical line, and higher grade signal sources will be more likely to contain Pharmaceutical Isolators.

As a final note, material traders are a good back up, but it's very frustrating to simply never find what you're looking for, and instead grind up six times as many materials that will spawn, just to trade them in. If you need a lot of say, Military Supercapacitors, which are usually used in weapons, which you usually use more than 1 of, it means you'll need maybe 20-30 of these, this would be 2-3 correct HGEs.
Or 12-18 incorrect ones.
And if you happen to need those "incorrect" materials for something else as well, then you need to visit even more HGEs, as well as frequent visits to traders to make sure you're not too full.
 
Cosmic has too much time on his hands to be writing a 7 page essay on HGE's lol, good suggestions tho makes calculations based on it a lot easier (especially with my bot)
 
Umm don't rely solely on USSs for your mats. Most of them are available from more than one source, i.e. hoovering up after you destroy a ship, mission reward etc.
 
Umm don't rely solely on USSs for your mats. Most of them are available from more than one source, i.e. hoovering up after you destroy a ship, mission reward etc.
Some are, some aren't.
Just asking for a bit of consistency. Lol

Personally, I'd prefer it if all G5 Manufactured Materials were available from all 3 sources. Allow us to pick the gameplay we prefer. But as it stands, some are mission rewards only, others are HGE only, and some, but not all, are also available from NPC drops.
 
Some are, some aren't.
Just asking for a bit of consistency. Lol

Personally, I'd prefer it if all G5 Manufactured Materials were available from all 3 sources. Allow us to pick the gameplay we prefer. But as it stands, some are mission rewards only, others are HGE only, and some, but not all, are also available from NPC drops.

Aye same here.
To be honest I just Came back to Elite after almost 2 years break. Thought I will start from Scratch and try not to Kill. Currently my ships haven't got any weapons installed. So getting Manufactured mats is Problematic. I have Core Dynamis Composite (Which wasn't hard, Sitting in Nanomam for a day) but Military Grade alloys abd Supercapacitors seem to be problematic. Rarely get any HGE in War systems and if I get them timer on them is barely to get to them. Right now flying over past week and Got barely 6 HGEs. SO Yeah. I don't want to kill other ships to get mats. Especially that if My car brakes down I don't go stealing parts from other cars (Or destroying them hoping I get what I need) I go Shopping and Use MONEY not other parts in exchange.

So RNG gods are against me for time being :D
 
Aye same here.
To be honest I just Came back to Elite after almost 2 years break. Thought I will start from Scratch and try not to Kill. Currently my ships haven't got any weapons installed. So getting Manufactured mats is Problematic. I have Core Dynamis Composite (Which wasn't hard, Sitting in Nanomam for a day) but Military Grade alloys abd Supercapacitors seem to be problematic. Rarely get any HGE in War systems and if I get them timer on them is barely to get to them. Right now flying over past week and Got barely 6 HGEs. SO Yeah. I don't want to kill other ships to get mats. Especially that if My car brakes down I don't go stealing parts from other cars (Or destroying them hoping I get what I need) I go Shopping and Use MONEY not other parts in exchange.

So RNG gods are against me for time being

Just get whatever mats from the HGEs and go cross trade at a mats trader. It's faster and no pew-pew required.
 
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