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Nature has always culled the weak and the infirm

COVID-19 is nothing new

But at least the media now has something to do

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Trade in china. Embargos.... Trade wars. Mysterious illness that will eventually possibly close off trade with china..... :unsure:

China wants and has always tried for killing the aged or any population controls they can get. Disease impossibly supposedly kills old but not young..

China and america good friend. Do friendship long time!!
 
No, you're not, Patrick. You're not going to understand the implications of the ideas you preach until the goods, services and products that you rely on quit altogether, and even then you won't understand why, you'll just know that you don't have them and are cold and starving and not grasp how that came to be.
And as usual you don't understand what I'm saying.

I'm talking about moderation, not total extinction.

It’s not difficult to understand ...
 
Really Leo? I'd like to see an example of a woke environmentalist actually doing anything to moderate their impact on the world and it's resources. Virtue signalling and hating the people who are responsible for clothing and feeding them and providing for all of their wants, needs and essential services is all I've noticed so far.
 
Human nature is such that any attempt to moderate our consumption will be a losing battle.

Simply put the vested interests and the idiots who consume their lies put out by mass media will always outweigh those who have an interest in a green sustainable planet.
The nature itself will force the idiots to moderate themselves.

We currently have a small example with the planes and the tourists.

;)
 
The nature itself will force the idiots to moderate themselves.

We currently have a small example with the planes and the tourists.

;)
That isn't how things work in the real world. Things adjust to available resources. Or we make more. What is available is a variable and more complex than you know. Normal life is doing that. Your simplifying things you've never dealt with sufficiently. Hard to explain it to you also. To much to fill in. How much is available is a complex subject and varies heavily per area and by many other factors including population size and other things. Environmentalism is extremely simple. As is most things related to science in the modern sense. For the same reason too. People who don't deal with things much in real life trying to deal with real subjects. It's like the difference in general between engineers and scientists. Scientists are extremely ignorant today and if looking at a real world subject will come up with lots of fanciful ideas and extremely simple generalization to things they have made dogma. Engineers have to deal with details to do it correctly and understand variation. One thing is efficient in one location under one circumstance. It isn't in another. That can be two feet away. Nothing is simple.

Sadly science is invading engineering now. So, it will be simplified. And china's infrastructure problems will be small eventually in comparison.

BTW, most environmentalism is harmful. If you take incorrect or simple information and apply it you get a very different result than what you think in practice.

Remember, politicians are not educated. They just take information to use it to their own ends. They should always be considered snakes in the grass. It's like teachers now a days. If they knew more they would be doing something else for a living.
 
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I am fully aware of the origin of these products.

This is for this reason that the French Minister of Economy and his European counterparts are considering in the term to relocate on the national territories, the national industries and thus reduce the harmful effects of globalization, especially for unnecessary flows and transport.

Whether you like it or not, the nature and the climate will force you to moderate your frenzy of overconsumption, overproduction and overpollution.

It's not me who says it, this is the nature that crushes you with all its authority (viruses, climate change, depletion of resources).



It is a good idea, especially because the coronavirus remains on the surface for a period of 9 hours.

Also do the same when you go to the supermarket because people touch all the products (fruits and vegetables too).
That’s why I grow most of my own food, I also make sure that our water supply is clean, actually we country folks pollute less than city dwellers. We also barter a lot here 😎
 
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Actually that number is

60,924


That’s why I grow most of my own food, I also make sure that our water supply is clean, actually we country folks pollute less than city dwellers. We also barter a lot here 😎
When this is over, I'll move to the countryside. Been thinking about it for years, but this is a wake up call ;)
 
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3500 deaths attributable world wide vs nearly 15,000 deaths during the same time frame for the seasonal flu in the US alone. When the virus was mostly dwelling behind the Chinese curtain of lies and disinformation it was easy to jump to conclusions, but now that it's been out in the world for past few months (that we know of!) it's easy to see that this is a storm in a tea cup being whipped up for (I can't say without breaking the forum rules on certain types of discussions). It's not good, but it's not the existential threat that is being promoted by the media.

@WeComeInPeace seeing as how thousands, if not millions, of people have been or currently are infected and are not being tested, the real numbers have to be much much more optimistic than those on that tracker. The vast majority of testing is only being performed on the critical cases.
 
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Actually that number is

60,924

So the whole thing is much of a nothingness and hysteria is being fuelled by media.
 
No doubt that we don’t know if it can mutate into something horrible but counting the dead is a good indicator this is more used to scare people aka political crowd control for the masses.
 
Human nature is such that any attempt to moderate our consumption will be a losing battle.

Simply put the vested interests and the idiots who consume their lies put out by mass media will always outweigh those who have an interest in a green sustainable planet.
Okey dokey then.

I'll just leave these right here...... 😂

Remember:

#DoAsIVirtueSignalAndNotAsIDo

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And as of last month, these altruistic eco-warriors had the audacity to fly in a private chartered jet. Courtesy of JP Morgan. All the way from Vancouver Island, Canada, across the continental United States to Miami Florida. To attend an exclusive, A lister finance summit where Just Harry pontificated to some of the wealthiest billionaires in the world about mental health issues. You simply. Cannot. Make. This. Up. 😂

And oh yeah. JP Morgan. One of the worst white collar criminal investment banks (second only to Goldman Sachs) responsible for global warming & climate change from jet related atmospheric emissions. Second only to their part in the global financial bubble implosion in 2007-2009.
 
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Serious scientific question for all Greta worshipers, environmentalists, and various woke lefties, please give your opinion on this: a few days ago a Starbucks server tested positive for Covid 19 and yesterday Starbucks announced that they were temporarily banning the use of all personal cups. Obviously this presents a big dilemma, and one that will effect all coffee shops that follow Starbuck's lead.

In response to this announcement that you will henceforth be forced to use disposable cups for your delicious caffeinated beverages, will you:
A) Go ahead and choke down the shame and just drink from a disposable cup, or...
B) Do the right thing for the planet and give up your Starbucks (or the many alternative coffee barista alternatives) completely?
 
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