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My nephews been put into self isolation, one of his classmates (recently back from Italy) is a confirmed corona virus case.

His parents and sister are still allowed out though.

Ugh, we had the same here. Dude turns out infected, placed in self-isolation. Partner allowed (isolation is merely advised anyway, not mandatory AFAIK) to go about her day.

You will NOT BELIEVE what HAPPENED NEXT! 9/10 doctors HATE this trick! sigh
 
Ugh, we had the same here. Dude turns out infected, placed in self-isolation. Partner allowed (isolation is merely advised anyway, not mandatory AFAIK) to go about her day.

You will NOT BELIEVE what HAPPENED NEXT! 9/10 doctors HATE this trick! sigh

They've already given up on containment now they are just trying to slow it down. The question is where do you stop with the self isolation go over and businesses and supply chains and everything else suffers where people are not infected but at home just in case, go under and it spreads faster.
 
My current general advice is...don't watch 'Twelve Monkeys!' Nothing to do with ubiquitous viral apocalypse paranoia - just to avoid having to watch Brad Pitt hamming it up like William Shatner on a bad - or good? - day!

As far as a place to go if & when the :poop: hits the fan...I have a location guaranteed to be deserted - the Etihad stadium in Manchester!

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These types of arguments mirror the worthless hysteria about shark attacks. More people are killed in road accidents by a factor of twenty than are killed by sharks.

Sorry but "alternative facts" don't count....

62,500 people are killed by sharks each year?!! 😲😲😲 No wonder we're all terrified of them.

I mean...more people travel on roads than swim with sharks. Naturally :)

Don't worry, I have it on good authority that 99.9% of shark attacks happen when you're wet!
 
Sadly, this. The main reason why they found so many cases in Italy and it seems like it has spreaded all over the world from here, is that Italy started testing people en masse at first, while practically every other country only on an "already confirmed case of contacts with infected" basis. No wonder, the more you test, the more you discover everywhere. We aren't even actually sure of how many people may have died from that in previous weeks when no one even knew it was a thing. And even with people dying now, it's not easy to confirm when a person died as a direct consequence of virus damage, or due to pre-existing conditions eventually aggravated by it.
It's just a big mess all around and there are chances we are still blissfully oblivious to the real extension of the contagion.

Italy has a large illegal migrant population of Chinese workers who have to sneak in and out. This was predicted a couple of weeks ago because of that IIRC.
 
Italy has a large illegal migrant population of Chinese workers who have to sneak in and out. This was predicted a couple of weeks ago because of that IIRC.

Chinese involved in illegal business? Sure. Illegal Chinese migrant? Hard to do that when for the most part they come in by plane. Unless they all travel clinging tightly to landing gears, those sneaky Chinese! :p
"Jokes" aside, the irony in all this is that the only confirmed cases of infected Chinese in our country were a tourist couple at the very first onset of this all madness (and you can imagine the embarassingly ignorant Chinese-oriented racist hysteria that ensued), while mostly everyone else after that has been very much indigenous to the place. The largest Chinese communities in Italy happen to be in Prato (Tuscany), Milan and Rome, logic would have dictated that those would have been the first hotbeds in that case. It wasn't the case.
 
Chinese involved in illegal business? Sure. Illegal Chinese migrant? Hard to do that when for the most part they come in by plane. Unless they all travel clinging tightly to landing gears, those sneaky Chinese! :p
"Jokes" aside, the irony in all this is that the only confirmed cases of infected Chinese in our country were a tourist couple at the very first onset of this all madness (and you can imagine the embarassingly ignorant Chinese-oriented racist hysteria that ensued), while mostly everyone else after that has been very much indigenous to the place. The largest Chinese communities in Italy happen to be in Prato (Tuscany), Milan and Rome, logic would have dictated that those would have been the first hotbeds in that case. It wasn't the case.

Boats.
 
Still no sneaky Chinese boat-traveling illegal immigrants sick in hospitals though.

Sidenote: as a woke millennial social media prostitute I have noticed a rather disturbing trend. For the last few years the progressive left has been rather keen on squashing any racist crap about African feacesholes and Mexican rapists, but when it comes to China it is peddle-to-the-metal. On a relatively left-leaning social media platform someone posted a top-ranked comment about China that was almost verbatim a Trump quote. When I pointed that out the predictable downvote-inferno began. Over here we had a Carnaval tune about how 'those stinking chinese' 'murdered hundreds of people'. A common sentiment in the days after was that 'we shouldnt be so politically correct' about it.

Not a good thing.
 
On a more amusing note: Kids. Kids never change.

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The last few weeks I’ve been traveling through South America, the Middle East and India, now here is the fun factor, I had some business in Europe too and when I got off the airplane from India no check for virus, nothing nada, when I arrived in India there was a very strict control of all passengers.

until now India got about 30 something cases officially known, Europe is already a lost case if you compare, I know that if the virus get a foot in a country like India it will rampage very fast, because basically no hygiene exist there. So when I return to the America’s I’m going to self quarantine for a month 😁
 
The Irish government has decided to cancel the parades in Dublin and the country's second city, Cork, for St. Patrick's Day on March 17 due to the coronavirus epidemic.

A scandal here !

:eek:
 
I had very severe symptoms, but my wife had no more than a mild cold and the kids sort of ran the gamut in between the two of us parents.

A couple observations, meant only to be taken as food for thought: I'm almost exactly in the age demographic where the mortality rate for the virus leaps to a higher percentage, so it stands to reason the symptoms would be likely to be more severe for me as opposed to the kids or my wife, just going with the math. Second, if the virus was identified in Wuhan in the end of December then it just stands to reason that it was around for a minimum of several weeks before being officially identified, so how many cases does that really put in various locations around the world that were transmitting potentially weeks (if not months) before we even started looking for them? And when we did finally start looking...we found them. Potentially there are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of cases that simply haven't been reported. Just look at the lack of testing kits there are to actually test people, and not only weren't/aren't available in every region, there are so few that only the most acute were/are being tested. I know that I'm no scientist, believe me I get that, but it just seems to be common sense that this virus is far more prevalent then is currently understood in any "official" manner.

In light of that, there exists the very real possibility that I, you, and many others have already contracted it. All it would have taken was an Amazon delivery during the holiday season, given the lifespan of the virus on inanimate objects like, say, cellophane wrapping in a cozy little shelter of packing peanuts covered with a nice protective armor of cardboard. Without being tested, we'd never know for sure.

Any given case numbers - they do vary - for people infected with SARS - CoV - 2 ofc only mean the tested and confirmed people . Which is one of the reasons more and more actual Virologists and Epidemists and whatever-those-specialists-are-named are not at all shy anymore to warn about the Virus/disease potentially going pandemic and in the course become endemic, or the other way round, or whichever way it takes - which, btw., is the reason for all the "Panic" . If you look at the confirmed cases and confirmed deaths, you are not getting the real numbers, not of how many people are infected with SARS - CoV -2, neither of how many people have died due to SARS - CoV - 2 . People may have died of a Heartattack - having been caused by an infection . Unless dead people are specifically looked at for the Virus, we do not know how many people that Beast has really killed - we only know how many people were actually "witnessed" to have died by the pneumonic disease - CoViD -19 .

An unknown number of infected people is spreading the Virus for weeks already, likely all over the Globe . Nobody knows how many people that Virus has killed .
 
The Irish government has decided to cancel the parades in Dublin and the country's second city, Cork, for St. Patrick's Day on March 17 due to the coronavirus epidemic.

A scandal here !

:eek:

You think that is something? Our bold government has shown decisive leadership by doing the unthinkable.

They recommend people to not shake hands.[/quote]

btw, with 'our government' I mean the Dutch government. The Belgian government has not done much yet, as we haven't had one for over 400 days and counting. :p
 
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