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Yes - respect and good wishes to all on the front line dealing with this. Especially those coming out of retirement - who if retired by age are presumably much closer to the brown trouser end of the risk scale than the shrug it off end..
 
So, just came back to the supermarket. Fear is now everywhere; people are grabbing whatever non-perishable foods they can find, TP, hand saniters et cetera. Dude in front of me made off with 25 kilo (50lbs) of baking mix. Oh well, I got what I came for.

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So, just came back to the supermarket. Fear is now everywhere; people are grabbing whatever non-perishable foods they can find, TP, hand saniters et cetera. Dude in front of me made off with 25 kilo (50lbs) of baking mix. Oh well, I got what I came for.

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Nice selection - what's in the tins?
 
If you go back and examine my initial statement on the topic of WWII, a comment which started this whole tangent going, it can be plainly seen that I was expressly and exclusively pointing to an episode, a simple powerful example, in our shared history when people were particularly brave in the face of extreme adversity. An example of heroism, nothing more, nothing less.

That is how I read it.
 
Yes - respect and good wishes to all on the front line dealing with this. Especially those coming out of retirement - who if retired by age are presumably much closer to the brown trouser end of the risk scale than the shrug it off end..

Indeed, Respect to those doctors.

In times like this we see the worst and the best of humanity. While doctors in the most risk group voluntarily come out of retirement to help in any way they can, police is now disbanding thousands of idiots from the beaches.
 
The cans are extra-strong beer, the cartons are wine. Bottom right is chocolate and underneath that coffee. :)

Excellent.

Well I just popped in to our local M&S to pick up some Chinesey cook at home stuff.

Saw one old boy with a surgical mask that had definitely seen better days and one woman who was wearing a handkerchief bandido stylee - everyone else looked business as usual.

All the shelves were fully stocked apart from the bog roll section but that was right next to the kitchen roll section which was overflowing in the aisles - so if needs must..
 
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Not doubting your research but that figure isn't something I've seen quoted.

Following yesterday's Cobra meeting the following things are on rotation on BBC news today;

Capacity now for processing up to 2000 tests per day - requirement now based on symptoms - you won't now have to have been to an infected area to qualify for test
Don't call 111 if you have symptoms - look it up on the internet
Self isolate for 7 days (mild cases will be shedding much less virus after that period) if you have any symptoms including new persistent cough or fever
If after 7 days you are worse then call 111
One infected person is apparently more likely to infect lots of others at small gatherings than they would at large gatherings (regarding sporting and large events)
Blanket closing schools not considered effective yet as kids would mingle anyway elsewhere and many would end up at grandparents with parents unable to get time off work
Schools don't go on trips abroad
Over 70s at risk - step away from the Cruise liner!

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This statement makes me worry even more. I think it's safer to be in a place effected by an organization not calling itself Cobra... if GI Joe taught us anything it's, "Knowing is half the battle!" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...coronavirus-delay-boris-johnson-budget-sunak/ 🤣 They're insidious!! Cobra strikes at the heart of Britain!! 🤣
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Who would be the leader of Cobra in Britain?!
 
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This statement makes me worry even more. I think it's safer to be in a place effected by an organization not calling itself Cobra... if GI Joe taught us anything it's, "Knowing is half the battle!"
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For me Cobra is synonymous with this;

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Just heard announced all bars and clubs in Berlin closing from mid next week!
 
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For me Cobra is synonymous with this;

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Just heard announced all bars and clubs in Berlin closing from mid next week!
Maybe that guy was drinking one of those while planning all of this!! ><

That or Britain knows something they aren't telling us...
 
Excellent.

Well I just popped in to our local M&S to pick up some Chinesey cook at home stuff.

Saw one old boy with a surgical mask that had definitely seen better days and one woman who was wearing a handkerchief bandido stylee - everyone else looked business as usual.

All the shelves were fully stocked apart from the bog roll section but that was right next to the kitchen roll section which was overflowing in the aisles - so if needs must..

Panic in the Netherlands and Belgium happened due to government announcement. Officially we distinguish three phases: 1) No Corona in our country, 2) It is around but we are containing it, and 3) Containment failed, lets mitigate it. We went to 3) officially. This was of course no surprise to anyone paying attention, but to the vast majority of people it was a sudden realization that this was a serious issue and not a funny problem for 'filthy Chinese' and 'overly touchy Italians''. Hey ho.
 

How have I not seen endless jokes about this?
 
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We understand your outlook.

The US does more than any other country on a global basis to improve living standards and provide emergency relief services. Not to mention keeping sea lanes open for trade. And as is the prevalent attitude in Europe, what the US contributes to the world is largely unappreciated. WE literally re-built Europe and Japan after WWII and established Pax Americana. Yet we get no appreciation for the stability and contributions we make to the world. So it is.

Your propensity to use the generalities brush underscores an incredible misunderstanding of the typical American who fought in WWI when the US was more rural and agrarian. Most simply answered the call and did so unselfishly. Not "ALL" but most. And post WWII when all the world was open for conquest if we had so desired, we rejected any notion of expansion and assisted around the globe to relieve the suffering from the devastation of war.

Your lack of gratitude and appreciation for what took place in order for you to sit at a computer and make these statements is astounding.

We don't do these things for gratitude and appreciation - though it would be nice - we do these things because it is the right thing to do.

Yes , we've made mistakes here and there, not all Americans are of the same monolithic ideology - but I'll let history speak for itself.

American exceptionalism is not a delusional myth - it's the historic reality since 1940. And you and your continent are beneficiaries.
You are wrong.

I do not lack judgment and gratitude. On the contrary, I very often admire America.

However, Washington had planned to impose a protectorate status on France at the end of the war— as for the future losers, Italy, Germany and Japan— governed by an Allied Military Government of Occupied Territories (Amgot). This American military government of the occupied territories would have abolished all sovereignty, including the right to beat money, on the model provided by the Darlan-Clark agreements of November 1942.

It was necessary that the General Charles de Gaulle to impose the independence of the France to keep the control of the French Empire.

As in the Gulf in Kuwait, In Iraq, in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere, the Americans see in priority their interest.


American exceptionalism is not a delusional myth - it's the historic reality since 1940. And you and your continent are beneficiaries.

Believe it, the America are very well established economically in Europe ...
 
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I would also say all those japanese bombs falling on the Pearl Harbor naval base also helped put things in motion from the US side, much more than being "the right thing to do". And yes, US profited immensely from post-war loans to europe, but that's only fair - europe needed cash, US loaned that cash, and lots of of it. Mind that I'm not one of those "anti-american" types, nor am I trying to start any flame war between the US and europe, both have done great things and both have done mistakes. I do appreciate the US contribution (and Russia's) to turn the tide of the war. And I actually like a lot of things about America's way of life, most especially the value most of it's citizens place on their individual freedoms, I truly wish more europeans shared some of that sentiment too instead of realying so much on being herded by governments.
Very lucid, Pearl Harbor was the trigger.

And the Americans certainly did not want to leave all the opportunities on the European continent, to the Soviet Union ...

The Americans are not angels

They are business people who intervene somewhere if there is an interest for them.

This does not remove their quality and courage.
 
Can we stop discussing unrelated events and hogging credits for previous generations' valiant efforts? Every country has had its fair share of heroic and inspiring individuals; we are not those people so instead of asking for recognition or points I propose we all use these individuals as inspiration and encouragement. I also suggest the time for bragging about which country is bestest is after the crisis, and if anyone is after bragging rights feel more than welcome to make personal contributions anyway you can see fit.
 
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