Unquestionably, the heroism here in the adversity.
And an undeniable reference to the parallel market and authentic solidarity between people in wartime.
Lol, black market toilet paper dealers. What a time to be alive.
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Lol, black market toilet paper dealers. What a time to be alive.
business 
But could carry virusIt's known, the money has no smell.
use gloves and UV light just to be sure, here we just barter stuff, no money needed, I got eggs, and you got milk ..... I like it that way.
Some are already contaminated for a long time and do not feel the need to wash their hands.But could carry virus
Regarding milk and eggs, here we have the possibility of making an egg caramel cream without spending money.
Love the pictures of supermarkets.
"All the frozen vegetables are gone!"
"Errr, I see piles of fresh vegetables over there?"
"But they aren't frozen, they will spoil!"
That is so weird, I too make up stories about imaginary strangers just so I feel better about my self!
"All the frozen vegetables are gone!"
"Errr, I see piles of fresh vegetables over there?"
"But they aren't frozen, they will spoil!"
That is so weird, I too make up stories about imaginary strangers just so I feel better about my self!
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The court appointed psychiatrist already spoke to you about doing that.
Many people don’t have enough food at home and shop day by day, not made up it’s a fact.Love the pictures of supermarkets.
"All the frozen vegetables are gone!"
"Errr, I see piles of fresh vegetables over there?"
"But they aren't frozen, they will spoil!"
That is so weird, I too make up stories about imaginary strangers just so I feel better about my self!
Meal by meal in some more extreme cases.
Kitchenless property was a great new fad a while back, don't know if it caught on.
Maybe I underestimate the appetite of Americans, but even when you have absolutely no food you will be fine for 'a few hours'.
A few days isn't hard at all. Most people have never experienced anything like genuine hunger though so they'll go bonkers immediately.
True. But likely this won't take place in a modern city?
I could do 5 days myself, but that drops white cell count and reduces immune status, so definitely a bad idea now.
The biggest problem we are having is convincing 70 plus aged people that they do NOT know better than everybody else and to park their wrinkly butts at home.
My daughter is completely recovered, went shooting last week and took home a silver, so that's good. I lost 8 pounds, got gaunt, and look like my grandfather. Still no idea if it really was coronavirus, but in a pandemic, it's a fairly safe assumption?
On the bright side, we could easily get parking at the Italian pizza place for some reason. Not that we'd be going anywhere.
Immunity might last just a paltry 2 months, so ha, I can get it again. Good times.
Panic buying strips the shelves, supply chain disruption from borders shutting means they can't restock some stuff a subsequent riot means local transport stops moving and it takes a few days to restore order. Its certainly conceivable. Storage space isn't profitable so most shops don't have very much at all, they order in what they need to restock the shelves and have very little out the back.
People had to be told to stop calling the cops and members of parliament when KFC ran out of chicken for a week in the UK.
That's good news.
Meanwhile, in other news :
Germany kindof explodes overnight in # of infected . Acc. to this soucre
interaktiv.morgenpost.de
3.953 infected by now . This is about doubling the #, over night . But, its not bad news. We had 1, 2 days last week where we increased by a factor of 5 in # of infected overnight. Still, only 8 dead, which really IS good news . The country is starting to shut down . Schools and kindergardens closing Monday not only in 2, but afaik in all Federation States .
Voices get louder of people demanding to shut our Borders, too...as more and more countries around us do . Stores start showing signs of not being able to restock stuff immediately anymore...but in general, most important food and household supplies ( besides Disinfectant and toiletpaper ofc. ) seem to still be coming in at a rate that allows at least some restocking . Sure, some store may be out of say pasta or rice...but within a 10 mins walk, you will find a few stores that still have plenty . Similar with other goods, it seems most shortages seen in Supermarkets and other Shops are simply due to different resupply/Restock patterns . I also think is it is possible that some chains by now only restock the shelves in intervals, so that people buying bulk do not immediately grab all the supply of the day .
Since I have a drivers license, and have access to 2 cars ( I do not own one, just friends allow me to use theirs when I need ), and spare time, I started phoning around Family and friends end last week, telling them if they want to go bulkshopping to get prepared, just call me, I will find the time . So, was on a 3hrs trip this morning with a friend who does not have a Car to stock up for her, husband and 3 year old son . It was scary realizing neither her nor her husband had a real understanding of what is going on despite what daily news tell them ( which are good and informative, but do not REALLY give you an understanding of the Situaton by themselves ), I thought people in general were more aware . To see the shock creep up in her face, simply caused by the empty shelves we saw, and having to shop in a few different shops to get all the supplies she wanted, was a bit scary . But then I was glad we did this together, 'cos she dropped into a "oh, and I need THIS, and THAT, and some more of THAT, too" state of wanting to buy unnecessary or useless stuff, which I was able to prevent her from buying . And, I remembered I was like that for a day or 2 not too long ago .
We are starting some kind of support and contact network later today, so that say being able to go bulkshopping is not dependent on me, so that friends who do not have a car have direct access to the friends that do ( not all of those people know each other personally yet, so for the last few days, I was kindof the middleman in terms of having a car and time available, and its just better to NOT have the necessity for that ) . The idea is to not only work together on shopping, but over time to create some kind of supportstructure out of that...not big, ofc not, am looking at about maybe 12-15 people atmo, including 2 families .
Grade 3 Protective overalls arrived yesterday . Grade 3 Virusprotecting NitrilGloves will come monday or tuesday . HOPEFULLY, the halfmasks, filters and Goggles will arrive next week...the supplier has not told us we are not getting the stuff yet, so we assume we will get it . 10l of destilled water stand in my room, will go out later to get the Ethanol . 3% Hydrogen peroxide I will be able go get from Pharmacies still, but the glycerol turns out to be a Problem...having spoken to a pharmacist in town earlier today, that is the stuff they are really short on atmo, so they can not sell any to private people . I just hope I can get all the necessary stuff together in time to be able to go out when it really hits us .
What is stressing is that I know I am late . I hesitated too long, and if not for a close friend kindof "giving me nudge", I might even have hesitated further . By now, me and my roommate are stocked up ok . Nothing expert prepper 3 months like, but we can go for about 2 weeks at this moment, and I am constantly increasing our Stock in small amounts here and there, as to leave things for others to buy . So I am not buying say 20 packs of toiletpaper at ONCE at ONE shop...I buy 3, 4 over the course of a week, and each at a different shop . Same with food and other stuff . But, had I acted acc. to what I knew, I would have had the PPE and supplies to keep it maintained etc. by now . There is also quite some stuff that I want to get which I just can not afford at this moment .
I am worried about quite a few people in my country . Ofc, the politics and other talking heads do not get tired of emphasizing that we need to protect and take care of the elderly, sick and weak...and I am GLAD that is what they say endlessly everywhere, because a) its ofc true and b) its psychologically important . But, I am wondering about the homeless, the people and families on Hartz IV or similar ( I guess what is called social welfare ) . I mean, the unexpected expenses of getting prepared really quickly has made quite a dent in my and most of my friend's funds . In the Sense of, peple have spent their money for the rest of the month within a day . Good, since now you are stocked up . Bad, what if you need other, or more Stuff ? So I am wondering, what happens to those people in my country who literally have Zero funds to spare ? I am thinking, maybe there is a good proprtion who buys bulk as to buy cheaper anyways, but I suspect not many . And, that still leaves homeless people . Not a single word yet anyhwere for what is done for that portion of the population which is also very vulnerable to the disease imho . I am trying to figure out a way to get answers to these questions, and maybe even get stuff started on an official level . I guess I "could" start doing something myself, but honestly, I dont think I have enough time and resources. So, I need to find out what is being done, and if - as I fear - not much, I hope I can find ways to make at least communal authorities to look that way .
I am also wondering how it is that in most shops, cashiers do not even wear gloves . Mail delivery personnel also not . I need to find a way to let someone who can actually get it done know to get that sorted really quickly, I guess I am calling the health administration of my town later today or tomorrow...
Good Luck everyone . Stay safe .
Germany kindof explodes overnight in # of infected . Acc. to this soucre
Corona Zahlen: Karte für Deutschland + weltweit
So ist die Corona-Pandemie ausgelaufen: Fallzahlen für Deutschland, die Bundesländer und Kreise - sowie die Entwicklung in den Ländern weltweit im Zeitverlauf auf einer interaktiven Karte.
3.953 infected by now . This is about doubling the #, over night . But, its not bad news. We had 1, 2 days last week where we increased by a factor of 5 in # of infected overnight. Still, only 8 dead, which really IS good news . The country is starting to shut down . Schools and kindergardens closing Monday not only in 2, but afaik in all Federation States .
Voices get louder of people demanding to shut our Borders, too...as more and more countries around us do . Stores start showing signs of not being able to restock stuff immediately anymore...but in general, most important food and household supplies ( besides Disinfectant and toiletpaper ofc. ) seem to still be coming in at a rate that allows at least some restocking . Sure, some store may be out of say pasta or rice...but within a 10 mins walk, you will find a few stores that still have plenty . Similar with other goods, it seems most shortages seen in Supermarkets and other Shops are simply due to different resupply/Restock patterns . I also think is it is possible that some chains by now only restock the shelves in intervals, so that people buying bulk do not immediately grab all the supply of the day .
Since I have a drivers license, and have access to 2 cars ( I do not own one, just friends allow me to use theirs when I need ), and spare time, I started phoning around Family and friends end last week, telling them if they want to go bulkshopping to get prepared, just call me, I will find the time . So, was on a 3hrs trip this morning with a friend who does not have a Car to stock up for her, husband and 3 year old son . It was scary realizing neither her nor her husband had a real understanding of what is going on despite what daily news tell them ( which are good and informative, but do not REALLY give you an understanding of the Situaton by themselves ), I thought people in general were more aware . To see the shock creep up in her face, simply caused by the empty shelves we saw, and having to shop in a few different shops to get all the supplies she wanted, was a bit scary . But then I was glad we did this together, 'cos she dropped into a "oh, and I need THIS, and THAT, and some more of THAT, too" state of wanting to buy unnecessary or useless stuff, which I was able to prevent her from buying . And, I remembered I was like that for a day or 2 not too long ago .
We are starting some kind of support and contact network later today, so that say being able to go bulkshopping is not dependent on me, so that friends who do not have a car have direct access to the friends that do ( not all of those people know each other personally yet, so for the last few days, I was kindof the middleman in terms of having a car and time available, and its just better to NOT have the necessity for that ) . The idea is to not only work together on shopping, but over time to create some kind of supportstructure out of that...not big, ofc not, am looking at about maybe 12-15 people atmo, including 2 families .
Grade 3 Protective overalls arrived yesterday . Grade 3 Virusprotecting NitrilGloves will come monday or tuesday . HOPEFULLY, the halfmasks, filters and Goggles will arrive next week...the supplier has not told us we are not getting the stuff yet, so we assume we will get it . 10l of destilled water stand in my room, will go out later to get the Ethanol . 3% Hydrogen peroxide I will be able go get from Pharmacies still, but the glycerol turns out to be a Problem...having spoken to a pharmacist in town earlier today, that is the stuff they are really short on atmo, so they can not sell any to private people . I just hope I can get all the necessary stuff together in time to be able to go out when it really hits us .
What is stressing is that I know I am late . I hesitated too long, and if not for a close friend kindof "giving me nudge", I might even have hesitated further . By now, me and my roommate are stocked up ok . Nothing expert prepper 3 months like, but we can go for about 2 weeks at this moment, and I am constantly increasing our Stock in small amounts here and there, as to leave things for others to buy . So I am not buying say 20 packs of toiletpaper at ONCE at ONE shop...I buy 3, 4 over the course of a week, and each at a different shop . Same with food and other stuff . But, had I acted acc. to what I knew, I would have had the PPE and supplies to keep it maintained etc. by now . There is also quite some stuff that I want to get which I just can not afford at this moment .
I am worried about quite a few people in my country . Ofc, the politics and other talking heads do not get tired of emphasizing that we need to protect and take care of the elderly, sick and weak...and I am GLAD that is what they say endlessly everywhere, because a) its ofc true and b) its psychologically important . But, I am wondering about the homeless, the people and families on Hartz IV or similar ( I guess what is called social welfare ) . I mean, the unexpected expenses of getting prepared really quickly has made quite a dent in my and most of my friend's funds . In the Sense of, peple have spent their money for the rest of the month within a day . Good, since now you are stocked up . Bad, what if you need other, or more Stuff ? So I am wondering, what happens to those people in my country who literally have Zero funds to spare ? I am thinking, maybe there is a good proprtion who buys bulk as to buy cheaper anyways, but I suspect not many . And, that still leaves homeless people . Not a single word yet anyhwere for what is done for that portion of the population which is also very vulnerable to the disease imho . I am trying to figure out a way to get answers to these questions, and maybe even get stuff started on an official level . I guess I "could" start doing something myself, but honestly, I dont think I have enough time and resources. So, I need to find out what is being done, and if - as I fear - not much, I hope I can find ways to make at least communal authorities to look that way .
I am also wondering how it is that in most shops, cashiers do not even wear gloves . Mail delivery personnel also not . I need to find a way to let someone who can actually get it done know to get that sorted really quickly, I guess I am calling the health administration of my town later today or tomorrow...
Good Luck everyone . Stay safe .
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It's too bad when I and a few others like @lysan started advising people over five weeks ago to start reasonably preparing their larders for more than the usual 1-3 days amount the typical person has at any one time we were called a 'panic inducing hoarders' who were going to "strip store shelves and screw everyone else over" or words to that effect by a few choice members of this forum. Ironically, it's that attitude that is directly leading now to the real panic buying, store shortages and brawls in the parking lot over the last flat of bottled water that we're hearing about now. If people had practiced common sense preparatory measures before there would be no need to over-react now. Self preservation 101.
@Synkreto glad to hear that you are getting yourself situated as best as possible. You sound like a resilient person with his/her head screwed on the right way.
When you and others were already adivising others to get prepared, I was still in a State of ignorance . It was the "Some numbers and a shortage" Thread that made me aware a bit more...still, I hesitated . About 2 weeks ago, I started to really dive into the Situation, by getting all the Information I can, keeping tabs on the Situation on a daily basis etc . Really getting prepared only started about 1 week ago . As well as my friend giving me the nudge to start doing that, it is you guys I have to thank for having woken up almost in time .
All the best man . Stay safe .
Love the pictures of supermarkets.
"All the frozen vegetables are gone!"
"Errr, I see piles of fresh vegetables over there?"
"But they aren't frozen, they will spoil!"
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh quiet!..... Let them be...
In times of crisis, other people's idiocy is simultaneously our worst enemy and our best friend.
I'm just looking forward to finally getting some serious D & D time in with the kids; maybe we'll finally get to the end of the Curse of Strahd campaign that we started almost a year ago!
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