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So it's hard for you to understand people have been led to think buying Arx to show their support is a form of investment when they're promised hypothetical new features they may one day enjoy...
Elite Dangerous is no longer FDev's "Baby"
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So it's hard for you to understand people have been led to think buying Arx to show their support is a form of investment when they're promised hypothetical new features they may one day enjoy...
I don't spend much of my time worrying about what stupid people think. Anybody who thinks buying Arx represents anything other than buying Arx falls into that category I'm afraid. I don't see too many of them though. People buy Arx to buy cosmetics not to show their support - if someone needs to headcanon it to justify spending money on for ship paints that's fine, but it doesn't change the reality of the commercial transaction.
Why post on videogame forums then?
What's ing tedious with knights is, you cant answer to one before another come with his own disjointed set of nonsense, or their sneaky editing.
Dont lay all eggs in one basket is what I answered. And not even to you. Put all your game pocket money on buying Arx to enjoy the "awesome" cosmetics, and dont you dare buy another spacegame like House of the Dying Sun, Eve valkyrie, Everspace, X4, Outer wilds, NMS, Star Citizen or anything even remotely worked on. Do invest your money as you so wish. No one cares.
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There are so many answers I could give to you that would see me eat a ban lol. Let's just go with 'because video game forums aren't entirely filled with stupid people.'
Saying you buy something to support the game is usually just people feeling like they wasted money
LOL like 'I bought the Razor paints with wobbly edges for my Corvette TO SUPPORT THE GAME!'
Your post only included the first line until you edited the rest in after I replied to it, so you hardly have room to talk.
As for disjointed nonsense, I'm not the one suggesting that anybody who thinks 'that paint looks nice I think I'll spend three quid on it' is somehow being hoodwinked by FDEv into falling for their evil plans, rather than just making a really simple purchasing decision about something that costs less than a pint of beer. Some people might think they're investing in the future of the game and/or the company for sure but then some people think the earth is flat.
As I've said before on here, the most tedious thing by far is being called a white knight for holding a position which is just not absurdly negative.
Despite saying that you don't care, you seem to care a great deal though. Certainly enough to try to make a decision to buy Arx seem ridiculous by attempting to frame it alongside never spending a penny on any other space-related computer game, because yeah that's obviously the choice people are faced with isn't it?
Also it's great that you have a months out of date blue store button avatar to show just how little you care about other people's spending decisions, it really increases your plausibility.By the way, good luck with buying in for Star Citizen with the cash you'd save from a couple of three quid ship paints. I think that will get you about a 160 x 160 fragment of a jpeg
Edit: I edited the post to include this edit just for the fun of it.
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Why would I care about the economic condition of your poor friend who want to argue about the definition of "investment". And why would he be offended to be called a whale if he didnt spent a dime on stuff he says stupid people are buying for any reason?
Still not following you.
Whatever position you think you hold, it just doesnt seem comfortable at all.
I didn't say stupid people are buying them, I said people are stupid if they imagine they are doing anything other than purchasing a cosmetic item when they purchase a cosmetic item. I don't mind a discussion but don't try to twist my words, firstly it's impolite and secondly you're not bright enough to do a good job of it.
You also seemed to miss the point that I'm not saying 'BUY ARX!!!' or 'DON'T BUY ARX, IT'S FOR SUCKERS!!'. I'm saying buy it, or don't buy, it as you wish. Just don't buy it and fool yourself that you're doing something other than simply buying currency to buy cosmetic items because you want them.
Whether Arx (and whatever you buy with it) represents value for money is entirely subjective anyway, since the only value they have to begin with is the value a player attaches to the way their spaceship looks in a computer game.
What is uncomfortable about treating buying something in this game in the same way as buying something in any other game, or in real life. Look at the item, weight up its cost against its desirablity and/or utility and decide whether to buy it or not based on that. I mean that's the way I've bought everything for the last 40 years or so, is there a different way that nobody ever told me about?
Oh and just to clear something up for you, Leo didn't suggest you stop calling me a whale because I'm offended by it. He suggested you stop doing it because it makes you look like a berk. You might want to thank him for trying to help you out.
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So tell me Einstein, how exactly is one supposed to do if they want to support Elite's chaotic development, if it's not by buying additionnal accounts and Arx? What's your "position" about that huh?
Well I'm kind of a traditionalist so I support the game by buying game updates when they release them.
They don't particularly need me to buy cosmetic items to support the game because they've released one of the year's top 50 sellers on Steam in each of 2016, 2018 and 2019 and the money from those seems to be keeping the fires burning just fine. I'm sure they're thankful for the money people spend on cosmetics, just as they're no doubt thankful for the money people spend on their games, but they're just selling stuff to people who want to buy it. It's not a transaction that requires an emotional element of some kind to be involved.
And your teaching skills wont improve with bacon, but good appetite.
Humm I see. So you suggest people should buy Jurassic World or Planet Zoo to support Elite Dangerous develoment, maybe?
Cunning.
I'm suggesting you should buy anything from Frontier that you want to buy, but just realise that you're not 'supporting' anything. You're just buying a game. Even when you bought E D you weren't 'supporting' E D. You were buying a game. The only people who 'supported' the game's development were the kickstarter backers and their 'support' was the kickstarter buy-in, not anything they might have bought from the shop after release.
Sure FDev are going to be looking at how much they make from cosmetic items for this game because it would be commercially idiotic for them not to, but a decision to buy some stuff for the game is not an expression of support anywhere other than in the purchaser's head. At the other end of the pipeline, it's figures on a balance sheet.
If people actually want to support software development as opposed to just buying a game, my advice would be to find a bedroom coder working on a dream project that you believe in and support them because without someone's cash, that game will probably never get made.
However I can guarantee you that FDEv made more money from Planet Zoo than Elite last year, so it's an indisputable fact that the money spent by anybody who bought it will be paying for continuing development of Elite, just as the cash anybody who bought Planet Coaster spent was used to pay for the development of Jurassic World Evo. When the Elite update goes on sale at at he end of the year the cash raised will be spent on whatever they're working on at the time.
Again, you seem to think this is some bizarre concept that I've dreamed up. It's not; it's running a business. They don't take the three quid I spend on an Anaconda paint and put it in the Elite Dangerous piggy bank to only be spent on Elite Dangerous development. Probably a good job too because I don't think the end of year update would be too impressive if it was being paid for just from the ship paint money from 2019 and 2020.
So they're apparently more focused on Planet Zoo/Jurassic Park and making park games filled with exotic animal wildlife eh?
Hmmm. Here's a win - win solution: Use ED as a test bed to add all the flora and fauna from Planet Zoo and Jurassic Park.
Planet Zoo/Jurassic Park fan base would benefit from FDev using the ED player base to beta test any new features. ED fan base benefits from having new RNG POI and exotic RNG alien wildlife on planets. Which would make a nice addition to the boring looking 'Goids that are supposedly coming in the 2020 update.
And finally space leg cynics can finally justify the use of this long awaited feature. As Cmndrs will be happily interacting with the new alien wildlife DLC in these innovative ways:
- doing selfies with animals
- playing roadkill games in their SRVs in GTAO style
- psychotically hunting and killing wildlife on foot, SRV, and in their ships regardless of whether the animals are supposed to be docile, domesticated or not
FDev just needs to think outside the box a bit IMO.....