What to do when an account is left logged in

As far as your ship is concerned there is no such thing as "Inactivity".
Yeah, sure. I more meant for ED itself. You know, like the way your laptop goes to sleep when you don't touch it for 30 mins or whatever you have it set to.

I know I should be able to set my PC to hibernate (or whatever) like it sounds like the consoles do but for some reason this isn't reliable on my computer and by the sounds of it wouldn't actually work anyhow.
 
If the computer sleeps, the client will disconnect.
Oh, okay. This must have failed then.

My PC does have a tendency to not hibernate properly and I've never been able to work out why. It may have something to do with running a Plex server on this system as well or something.
 
Oh, okay. This must have failed then.

My PC does have a tendency to not hibernate properly and I've never been able to work out why. It may have something to do with running a Plex server on this system as well or something.

Most OSes will only allow a system that has AC power to automatically go into sleep/hibernate if nothing is running. Running a server, or a game, definitely counts as activity that would keep a system out of sleep.

The game itself has no inactivity timer...it doesn't really need one as it uses next to no bandwidth when not connected to another peer. Unless something is wrong, you'll only get booted when the weekly server reset comes around.
 
If you had a full tank of fuel, then your ship is unlikely to have blown up due to lack of fuel even after two days (especially an AspX). Supercruise doesn't use that much fuel. I suspect something else happened (maybe you'd stopped in the orbital path of a planet ;) ).

A Windows computer won't go to sleep if there is a game running. Certain other applications prevent this (media player does too). You should always log out of/close down games directly - not sure how you could mistake this in E: D, really.
 
If you had a full tank of fuel, then your ship is unlikely to have blown up due to lack of fuel even after two days (especially an AspX). Supercruise doesn't use that much fuel. I suspect something else happened (maybe you'd stopped in the orbital path of a planet ;) ).
My anaconda uses 2.75/h in supercruise. With 64t, that's less than a day.

Depends very heavily on ship type and fuel tank.
 
A Windows computer won't go to sleep if there is a game running. Certain other applications prevent this (media player does too).
Yes. I think it's actually the X-56 that prevents Windows from hibernating but who knows, ED itself could well be preventing it too. I've tried to look into it before but was never able to get to the bottom of what was really going on.

You should always log out of/close down games directly - not sure how you could mistake this in E: D, really.
Well, yes. And obviously I usually do but somehow, this time I must not have.

As I say, I'm not sure how it happened but it appears I must have switched applications or something, minimised ED, then after a time the monitors probably switched off, or possibly I locked the desktop or something. I don't really know what happened but clearly I must have somehow gone to bed without realising ED was still running in the background.

Obviously I normally exit the game properly as it's never happened to me before, and to be honest I couldn't find anyone else that this's happened to either. Presumably it must happen to others but I couldn't find any discussion of it, which is why I started this thread.
 
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In the case it's still the same PC and ED installation, there's a chance that that death is still in the logfiles. You could either read them yourself (they're plain XML, so somewhat readable), or install one of the applications that read them and present them in a friendlier manner - I use EDDiscovery.
 
In the case it's still the same PC and ED installation, there's a chance that that death is still in the logfiles. You could either read them yourself (they're plain XML, so somewhat readable), or install one of the applications that read them and present them in a friendlier manner - I use EDDiscovery.
Oh, that sounds fascinating. I'll look into that.
Didn't realise it was even possible.

Thank you.
 
Oh, okay. This must have failed then.

My PC does have a tendency to not hibernate properly and I've never been able to work out why. It may have something to do with running a Plex server on this system as well or something.
To be perfectly clear:
As long as the game is running and you are not in the title screen, your ship is present in the galaxy and will burn fuel.
There is no pause button or anything even when you're in the menus after logging into solo/private group/open. Same goes for alt+tabbing to the desktop, or your computer going to sleep mode.

Only way you're not in game space, is to quit to title screen or quit the game. There's no other way.
 
Oh, that sounds fascinating. I'll look into that.
Didn't realise it was even possible.

Thank you.
Okay, so I downloaded and installed ED Discovery and I have to say it is a fascinating tool, though I can't help but feel i have a lot to learn 🤩

Anyway, I went to the "History" tab, and this is what I see:
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I'm doing my best to make sense of this, but is this saying that I entered Supercruise at quarter past midnight, did an FSS Scan a minute later, then did nothing till I automatically exited Supercruise (presumably due to running out of fuel) at 5:40 pm and promptly died some 7 minutes later?

I take it I finally discovered myself that I had died the following evening at 6:30 pm and logged out.


How do I get an estimate of the value of the scans I lost? I appreciate it's been lost but more for curiosity's sake than anything I'd like to know How much it was.


Thanks.
 
Yeah, I guess it's mainly the explore data, and the fun of discovering the codex items, not to mention the achievement of venturing out and back again.

Of course I can attempt to do it again but it's just kind of galling to be blown back to Sag A through a failed logout.
I think I had to retrace steps from Colonia once going via Sag A then back to the bubble. It wasted a few weeks of my time.
In my case it was all my own fault. 😬
 
I'm doing my best to make sense of this, but is this saying that I entered Supercruise at quarter past midnight, did an FSS Scan a minute later, then did nothing till I automatically exited Supercruise (presumably due to running out of fuel) at 5:40 pm and promptly died some 7 minutes later?

Correct. When you ran out of fuel, all systems shut down, including FSD (dropping you down to normal space) and life support. I assume you're running a D-rated life support system to save weight, as most explorers do; this only has 7 mins 30 sec of oxygen. When the oxygen ran out, you died. When you died, your ship self-destructed and you were sent back to the nearest/last starport.

In other words, as far as the logs can tell, you simply went AFK for two days.

How do I get an estimate of the value of the scans I lost? I appreciate it's been lost but more for curiosity's sake than anything I'd like to know How much it was.

I think it's that "Estimated Values" tab in EDD. Though your having died may have cleared it; not sure as I've never tried to use it.

If you are linked to EDSM, then EDSM will also give you an "estimated scan value since last docking", in Dashboard -> Exploration. Unfortunately, since you're resurrected in a space station after death, I think the figure it returns will be "0".
 
The last time I played a week ago something came up and I had to immidietly leave the computer. I came back 18 hours later and still logged in in game. Luckily I was docked. Biowaste happens...
 
...In other words, as far as the logs can tell, you simply went AFK for two days.
Thanks for confirming.

Unfortunately, since you're resurrected in a space station after death, I think the figure it returns will be "0".
I actually haven't resurrected as of yet.

When I came back and saw that I had died it gave me the option to re-buy and teleport back to the last station but I logged out rather than accepting (or declining). I did this because I had read that once you do actually re-buy it clears your data but until you do it's still somewhat accessible.

I think it's that "Estimated Values" tab in EDD.
I believe that tab lists constants that are used in the calculation. I haven't really been able to workout what they do exactly but I'm guessing you can tweak these values to give what you believe would be a more accurate estimate:
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In any event it's definitely not telling me anything I understand.
 
Okay, I have now found there is also a "Visited Stars" tab available. This page seemingly has a long listing of star systems that I have scanned along with what appears to me estimated values, and helpfully it has a "Last docked" option in the 'Time' field. Summing all the values listed with the "Last docked" option selected nets a value of 15,323,527.

So I assume this means I had an estimated value of 15M credits in scans (not including first to find bonuses etc) at the time I blew.
 
So I assume this means I had an estimated value of 15M credits in scans (not including first to find bonuses etc) at the time I blew.

That's actually not that much, given what exploration is paying these days.

Tend to agree with Eckee myself. I'm sympathetic but devs probably have better things to do than complicate code with a dead man's switch running at all times. When you leave dock your ship - and your data - is your responsibility and while you can extend tank life by dropping out of cruise and powering systems off you didn't do that. You just found a new way to run out of fuel.

Should support give us our ship back every time we meet the rebuy screen? Ultimately you were killed by a game mechanic, not a bug.

edit: Head canon? ...
Commander got laid up with a virus and was unable to provide ship maintenance. Ship developed problems and automatic escape pod deployed. Commander was rescued to a station some months later and moved on with the credits he had in hand.
 
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