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Not a good move Frontier - Fleet Carrier upkeep
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I really do think this needs a bit more forethought. Decommissioning an entire carrier seems inappropriate, when in space it's far more likely that the crew would just up and leave. I think that's the better approach here - a crew needs to be hired and paid to operate the carrier, and if they don't get paid they leave. This leaves the carrier non-operational until a new crew is hired.
scratches head, no the one we are supposed to think with I mined. Started mining to buy new ships. Kept mining when I heard FCs were coming, because I knew they weren't going to be cheap.
I went on 1 mining trip every week. The trip took me 2 evenings because of my available play time...
So no, it isn't about exploitation. It's about making the right choices. I wanted an FC. I mined for the funds so I can buy one.
See how that works?
I really wish companies would not make announcements like this without providing viable information that explains how they intend to support this type of infrastructure. I will assume that when you travel 500 light years there will be things in place for you to discover to drive this game forward that are different than what we're already seeing? Commerce in this game is currently a mess, the mission system a mess, the dashboard or your cockpit if you prefer looks like I'm playing a game from 1986, I mean you can't even change the color of your HUD. How in the heck do you guys expect me to believe that you can actually pull this off and make this viable and make an announcement like this without any information about how you intend to propagate this infrastructure, this is crazy.
In my humble opinion if you were smart you would have fixed the game you currently have. If you look on the web you're going to quickly find that there are other companies that are working on games that are going to do what you can't much better because you're working on the wrong stuff, use the resources you have to fix the mess you currently got. You know I'll apologize in advance because I know this is going to generate some angst but I just can't be kind about this, this is just a poor decision and a bad direction fix the current problems then leap 500 light years....
In my humble opinion if you were smart you would have fixed the game you currently have. If you look on the web you're going to quickly find that there are other companies that are working on games that are going to do what you can't much better because you're working on the wrong stuff, use the resources you have to fix the mess you currently got. You know I'll apologize in advance because I know this is going to generate some angst but I just can't be kind about this, this is just a poor decision and a bad direction fix the current problems then leap 500 light years....
Sooooo much this ^.
George Carlin one time said to think about how stupid the average human being was...and then to take a moment and realize that half them are dumber than that.
I'll freely admit that when I saw that Fleet Carriers were going to cost five BILLION credits I literally laughed out loud. And then I hear that there is "upkeep." And I had reactions and thoughts...but they were all tempered by, "Hey, let's wait and watch the livestream and see."
So much opportunity for wasted outrage, I suppose. Eh, I'll carry on.
Fly aimless, CMDR's. o7
Do not worry the devs know we will need a holiday from the game from time to time!
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It's incredibly funny that despite being repeatedly told that full details on Fleet Carriers are coming next week, some CMDRs have panicked themselves into thinking that their Fleet Carrier will get wiped along with all 5b Credits
well, i think it's still a valid concern. if you sell a used car, you obviously don't get paid what you paid for when you bought the car new. only getting back 4 billion for a carrier that you paid 5 billion for, is still something one can be concerned about. this would be in line with how ship purchases work. the difference being, you decide to sell a ship and the carriers will be decommissioned after a certain inactive period.
Ok my entire list of owned ships since 2015 gp is 1 cobra3. List doneThat's true. Now let's tally up all those upkeep costs for every ship you have ever owned, plus costs for docking in every station you ever docked and deduct it from your account. Hopefully you don't fall too far into the negatives, after all you just agreed Frontier should delete all your ships to pay your debts.
Job well done then!
I did, one moment I was on the bus with 5billion and when I got off there it was... gone!, and I certainly wasn't going to chase the bus down the road!
I'm not sure a concern about an assumption based on lack of info can be classed as "valid"
After 5 years you'd think Frontier would understand the playerbase by now.I'm not sure a concern about an assumption based on lack of info can be classed as "valid"
Community management has never been their strong point.
Cool. Glad we all agree that this would totally ruin the feature and that there's no possible way that Frontier are such idiots as to implement something like this. I think we can all rest assured that these various publications are misreporting how fleet carriers are going to work, so we can all calm down because OF COURSE nobody would ever design something so obviously worthless and obnoxious.
Press Release recent news | page 1 of 595 | Game Developer
www.gamasutra.com
"Carriers decommissioned and sold for parts" = lore("despawn from game, refund CMDR")
It's incredibly funny that despite being repeatedly told that full details on Fleet Carriers are coming next week, some CMDRs have panicked themselves into thinking that their Fleet Carrier will get wiped along with all 5b Credits
What misreporting have various publications done on fleet carriers? Their articles are based on the press release which I linked - here it is again:
Press Release recent news | page 1 of 595 | Game Developer
More fool FDev for listening to requests for infoAfter 5 years you'd think Frontier would understand the playerbase by now.I'm not sure a concern about an assumption based on lack of info can be classed as "valid"
Community management has never been their strong point.
He's intentionally misrepresenting your point and sarcastically responding. I.e. "the only way you could possibly be right and it's not terrible is if the information is wrong and there's no upkeep at all, therefore either you or the articles are lying".What misreporting have various publications done on fleet carriers? Their articles are based on the press release which I linked - here it is again:
Press Release recent news | page 1 of 595 | Game Developer
The idea that there might be a middle ground between the upkeep requiring oppressive levels of grind to maintain a carrier and no upkeep at all is apparently one worth his derision.
While speculation and discussion is great, let's stop short of making thought-out 'informed' judgements about the upkeep situation considering we know next to nothing about
how it works
how difficult it is
how time-intensive it is
what you lose
how you go about losing it
what the carriers can specifically do
how this affects the upkeep situation
One thing I've noticed here is the term "weekly". This makes me think they're shooting for something that will function the way MMOs' various weeklies structures do, as far as player retention is concerned.
how it works
how difficult it is
how time-intensive it is
what you lose
how you go about losing it
what the carriers can specifically do
how this affects the upkeep situation
One thing I've noticed here is the term "weekly". This makes me think they're shooting for something that will function the way MMOs' various weeklies structures do, as far as player retention is concerned.