Why are you repeating yourself? This is just a reformatting of the other post denigrating me, taking me out of context and perceiving everything I say through your personal filter of grief for whats happening in your country and a desire to have a "bad guy" to project on. And if you scroll back a post or three you'll see where I responded to that. Modify your tone with me or quit engaging because I'm done being nice.
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We DO have serious problems, out here in reality. Lesser concerns are being steamrolled by trucks of dead people going out, passing ambulances on the way in as the global economy stalls and crashes.
How about we focus on that instead?
Just hit ignore for now, you can always come back in 3 days, weeks or months.
( Or in my case, never.
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☣We DO have serious problems, out here in reality. Lesser concerns are being steamrolled by trucks of dead people going out, passing ambulances on the way in as the global economy stalls and crashes.
How about we focus on that instead?
Just hit ignore for now, you can always come back in 3 days, weeks or months.
( Or in my case, never.
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I'd be doing good too if the government poured ridiculous sums of money into my pocket whenever I had a bad year.
I know a lot of people hate the US, and that’s alright, Angles are not born there, survivors are. We’re slow sometimes but when the wheels of mighty Industrial machine starts turning it will crank out whatever we need.
The cure will most likely come from the US, as it still have the capacity to do it in volumes needed to get this thing under control.
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I hope people learned something out of this when it’s over, because it will be over at some point and the fallout will be economical for many, I foresee big changes in the US financial system, it could also be the case many other places. The EU will be weak after this, mostly because it could not support countries like Italy and Spain, the population will ask question, likewise in France, the seed of exit is there, the next elections will be interesting.
This virus is relative mild, the next one could be much much worse, ending you life in hours and not weeks and it could take everyone down not just the weak of the population.
The society will never be prepared for that, and we see now how longtime it takes to react, we still have power and water, there is not really a supply chain issue, what if goods cant get to the stores, what if you can’t get electricity or water, how would the masses react?
I know how, the primate instincts will kick in and you will have chaos.
In my family we are now making a plan where my place will be the assembly point, that would be around 20 people, we need to expand the beds here and build more, we got the land so no worries, however it was only me out of these 16 people (we’re 4) who was prepared and now the rest realized they basically is in a very bad place and nowhere to go if SHTF.
I never ever expected this would happen in my life, never, it’s surrealistic and feels unreal, however it did and you can only imagine if the situation was much worse what society would be like now, there would not be one my internet friends.
Well enough doomsday talk from my side today, I will go check the compound feed the critters and go to bed.
The cure will most likely come from the US, as it still have the capacity to do it in volumes needed to get this thing under control.
Abbott Launches Molecular Point-of-Care Test to Detect Novel Coronavirus in as Little as Five Minutes
Abbott (NYSE: ABT) announced today that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for the fastest available molecular point-of-care test for the...
I hope people learned something out of this when it’s over, because it will be over at some point and the fallout will be economical for many, I foresee big changes in the US financial system, it could also be the case many other places. The EU will be weak after this, mostly because it could not support countries like Italy and Spain, the population will ask question, likewise in France, the seed of exit is there, the next elections will be interesting.
This virus is relative mild, the next one could be much much worse, ending you life in hours and not weeks and it could take everyone down not just the weak of the population.
The society will never be prepared for that, and we see now how longtime it takes to react, we still have power and water, there is not really a supply chain issue, what if goods cant get to the stores, what if you can’t get electricity or water, how would the masses react?
I know how, the primate instincts will kick in and you will have chaos.
In my family we are now making a plan where my place will be the assembly point, that would be around 20 people, we need to expand the beds here and build more, we got the land so no worries, however it was only me out of these 16 people (we’re 4) who was prepared and now the rest realized they basically is in a very bad place and nowhere to go if SHTF.
I never ever expected this would happen in my life, never, it’s surrealistic and feels unreal, however it did and you can only imagine if the situation was much worse what society would be like now, there would not be one my internet friends.
Well enough doomsday talk from my side today, I will go check the compound feed the critters and go to bed.
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stay safe and healthy, no one did, best wishes to your family
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There has been an outbreak of insults and personal attacks which has resulted, in some cases, in quarantine actions.
We are all affected by the current situation, and it creeps closer every day, but please try to contain frustration and not descend into finger pointing and insults. As jasonbarron points out, we are all in this together.
Enforced Quarantine is a real option, at least in this thread!
We are all affected by the current situation, and it creeps closer every day, but please try to contain frustration and not descend into finger pointing and insults. As jasonbarron points out, we are all in this together.
Enforced Quarantine is a real option, at least in this thread!
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Indeed it is.
Now on a really generic note:
Let's not delve too deep into despair.
If you keep checking https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ 10 times per day, do yourself a favor and check once per day the homepage of worldometers https://www.worldometers.info/
Unless WW3 will start due to SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19, we will still be in time to meet and greet the 8 billions population mark.
I actually expect quite a boom in population by the end of the year which can be an unexpected result of the quarantine.
I know it's hard, but try to keep the spirits up.
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'On a long enough timeline the survival rate of everyone drops to zero'.
I'd be doing good too if the government poured ridiculous sums of money into my pocket whenever I had a bad year.
Well, actually during the financial crisis and the 10 following years, the expanding monetary base overwhelmingly favored the wealthy and in general those who could afford to invest in the stock market. At the very least, in the U.S., now about the quarter of the $2T fiscal stiumulus goes right into the pockets of Average Joe.
Fully agree on this view. Cancer kills 10 million a year.
Oh don’t get me wrong, this is nothing compared to other things in our society, as I said, what will people do if something much more deadly occurred?'On a long enough timeline the survival rate of everyone drops to zero'.
Well, actually during the financial crisis and the 10 following years, the expanding monetary base overwhelmingly favored the wealthy and in general those who could afford to invest in the stock market. At the very least, in the U.S., now about the quarter of the $2T fiscal stiumulus goes right into the pockets of Average Joe.
Fully agree on this view. Cancer kills 10 million a year.
Coronavirus: Robots use light beams to zap hospital viruses
Demand has surged for robots equipped with powerful ultraviolet lights that can kill viruses.
www.bbc.com
Exactly what we need!
Robots. With frikkin lazers in their heads!
For real.
I said it would happen, predicted the timeline, but that was theoretical.
There was no understanding of it the way we are learning now.
Yes it is 2020, and Blade Runner dystopia is well predicted in fiction, but now I am literally making plastic gas masks in the kitchen, and watching a horrendous countdown tick tick tick along as thousands of strangers die, but every one is a tragedy. It could be my family next.
So far, the rich industrialized world has faced it. Wait till India and Africa get in the firing line, and the collapse you mention might just materialize.
I may be jumping into the conversation at the wrong point, but all modern medicine is brought about by capitalism- there is no large scale health structure in the world that develops its own medicines any more but has to buy it.
I wonder how much debt the US can accrue (since the debt ceiling never goes down). The EU will see this as a lesson for closer co-operation, but the biggest problem will be Italys economy which was bad before this kicked off. Germany will grumble, and recently the Dutch gov have been accused of being misers regarding financial help over Eurobonds. Unless Macron does something truly stupid I can't see Le Pen getting in. If anything you might see a lurch to the left.
The one to watch is the UK, how is a centre / right gov that swung to the left going to find itself again? It has not even exited the EU yet, and the population will be rattled about CV and want more action on the NHS they (the gov) tried so hard to kill.
10,000 in the hospital perhaps, but in retirement homes ? at home ?
Italy reports their death count just passed 10,000.
It's one thing to calculate the numbers, and quite another to live through the unfolding of the actual thing.
I say that because for the moment in France they only announce the dead in the hospital (Around 2300 to date).
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10,000 in the hospital perhaps, but in retirement homes ? at home ?
I say that because for the moment in France they only announce the dead in the hospital (Around 2300 to date).
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The problem is each country reports in a different way. The UK changed how it reports recently for example, as well as not reporting certain deaths as CV 19 related- its hard to build a coherent picture if everything is subtly different.
Yes and we can also assume that there are many deaths at home without a "post-mortem" autopsy ?
In France for next the week they will start counting the deaths of retirement homes with a weekly report.
We will therefore have 2 balance sheets. 1 for the hospital and 1 for the retirement homes.
It will also be necessary to know those at home ...
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The number of cases of contamination with coronavirus in Germany increased by 8% in 24 hours to reach 52,547, including 389 fatal cases, show statistics published by the Robert Koch Institute for Infectious Diseases, federal health authority.
64 new deaths have been recorded in the last 24 hours, an increase of 19%.
It seems that the virtuous Germany will also have its share of the burden in the coming weeks.
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64 new deaths have been recorded in the last 24 hours, an increase of 19%.
It seems that the virtuous Germany will also have its share of the burden in the coming weeks.
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Last week in the Netherlands the prevailing sentiment was that we don't need other countries, that we were smarter, less panicky, more mature and calm in the face of a crisis. Right now the only question on most of our minds is whether Germany will come rescue us.
For most, the question whether we are 'better together' has been quite resoundingly answered. New questions have replaced it, with the most urgent ones dealing with the recent trends in healthcare policy. The last 15 years we have increasingly went in the direction of semi-privatisation. Right now we are wondering if the much praised 'efficiency' may have come at the cost of resilience and robustness.
But these are questions we'll answer when the dust has settled.
For most, the question whether we are 'better together' has been quite resoundingly answered. New questions have replaced it, with the most urgent ones dealing with the recent trends in healthcare policy. The last 15 years we have increasingly went in the direction of semi-privatisation. Right now we are wondering if the much praised 'efficiency' may have come at the cost of resilience and robustness.
But these are questions we'll answer when the dust has settled.
Only recently?
True! But inside the EU you have the 'thrifty' group and the Dutch are firmly in this camp. Before CV19 there was disagreement over filling the Brexit void, and now the EU want govs to buy Eurobonds to support weaker EU economies- the Dutch were not happy.
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