And, the red "boop" light came on....
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The hospital I brought my mother into again now has decisively ramped up their procedures and protection.
Hardly anyone seen walking in or walking out without at least basic protection.
The treatment Station has been moved to another floor in order to maximize capacity for the ICUs and/or other patients that require strict separation from Covid19 cases.
All desk personnel now has large, protective plexiglass shields. Handover procedures now fully in effect right at the entrance, cutting down the traffic of non-essential persons within the Hospital to an absolute minimum.
So looks like the officials there have finally realized what I knew 2 months ago, at least noone is asking stupid questions anymore.
The plexiglass shields have rapidly become widespread for all types of businesses here that are still open, plenty of local manufacturers with the machinery and stockpiled have changed their production lines to custom-make those plexiglass shields.
Contamination levels in my local, small regional area are developing rapidly though and likely won't slow down for 1-2 weeks, which doesn't look too good.
Could be worse - but not good, looks like a classic pattern as seen almost everywhere else.
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The plexiglass shielding has popped up here also, everywhere . It such a genius solution .
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Beijing is using lies to undermine America’s standing; the U.S. should fight back with science and truth.
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No . What people are saying is, you can not ignore that from the time the Data in your pic until the day you posted it, the number of Deaths has doubled . You also can not ignore that at the moment your Data was sourced, already about roughly 3 Billion (!) people were under some kind of lockdown of some form, some for longer, some not so long yet . And the global spread still accelerates, and the increase in #of death globally is still accelerating . If you keep an eye on the numbers, you will witness how # of deaths to SARS - CoV -2 catches up .
In short : to even try and make a point using your pic is futile, and useless .
Even if your second statement was true : would, or do you find that anyhow acceptable ?
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A lot of opinions being shared, some with theatrical eye rolling and strenuous shakings of the head. It's all besides the point. Assuming you're social distancing and isolating correctly, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks. All of the histrionics are superfluous and eminently unhelpful. This is happening. It's happening to everyone, everywhere. If someone wants to try to find hope or alleviation from pain or just a silver lining in all the bad news what's it to anyone else? It doesn't change what's happening, it doesn't hurt anyone and it doesn't really matter.
Isolation and self distancing was never about "not getting it yourself." It's about limiting your opportunities to transport it elsewhere. Every man woman and child has to resolve themselves to catching this at some point and facing it down, and this being the case we're bound to all have different ways of processing our pain, fear and confusion.
Isolation and self distancing was never about "not getting it yourself." It's about limiting your opportunities to transport it elsewhere. Every man woman and child has to resolve themselves to catching this at some point and facing it down, and this being the case we're bound to all have different ways of processing our pain, fear and confusion.
I do not see that, at all . Not for Sweden, not for Norway, not for Denmark . Would be interested in how you get to your conclusion .
I have a good friend that is a board certified Internal Medicine physician. My wife and I described the "colds" we had in February. He said it likely was Covid-19.
Seems like we may have already had it and recovered and moved on.
But all anyone can do is use rational good sense by keeping your home clean and disinfected, and minimizing contact with others.
Everyone dies. It's just a matter of when, what and where.
Don't Panic
Seems like we may have already had it and recovered and moved on.
But all anyone can do is use rational good sense by keeping your home clean and disinfected, and minimizing contact with others.
Everyone dies. It's just a matter of when, what and where.
Don't Panic
Yeah, I'm about 50/50 sure that I had it, too. Pretty anecdotal I know, but I got sick in early February and I ticked all the covid symptom boxes. I didn't get tested, so it might have been the flu of course. Interestingly, I started comparing notes with my sub contractors and a lot of them had similar experiences, including two who had went to get tested for the flu and their results came back negative.
Big agree on your advice on not panicking: the worse the situation is the less appropriate or helpful it is to panic. There is no scenario where panic is anything other than an accelerant on a fire.
89 cases
5 deaths
Increasing by 1 to 2 cases per day.
Universal health care, free.
Lockdown at 2 confirmed cases that went to 5 that day.
Third World Country? Beginning to wonder. Maybe we have it better than most.
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Bad news:
4324 new cases and 563 new deaths in the United Kingdom: including 2 teenagers, a 13-year-old boy, and a 19-year-old man
The 13 year old is reported to not have suffered from any comorbidities .
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In other news, speaking to the civil unrest preparedness I was talking about last week:
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They would not open up if the numbers are not going down.
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All desk personnel now has large, protective plexiglass shields. Handover procedures now fully in effect right at the entrance, cutting down the traffic of non-essential persons within the Hospital to an absolute minimum.
So looks like the officials there have finally realized what I knew 2 months ago, at least noone is asking stupid questions anymore.
The plexiglass shields have rapidly become widespread for all types of businesses here that are still open, plenty of local manufacturers with the machinery and stockpiled have changed their production lines to custom-make those plexiglass shields.
Same here
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"...may gradually lift lockdown after easter if..." =/= "opening up" . Article from 2 days ago ?
Denmark acc. worldometers, as of April 1st, 2020, 18:34 UCT +1
Total Cases : 3.092
Active Cases : 2.987
Cases which had an outcome : 105
Recovered/discharged : 1 (1%)
Deaths : 104 (99%)
Look at the Graphs for Denmark . I would not exactly they say are doing good, or numbers are going down really .If anything, its picking up speed .
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Q1 death total in US about 4k
Globally about 44k
Assuming Q1 and Q4 are likely the worst time frames for infectious disease, we're looking at about 16k in US and 200k worldwide?
Edit: Perhaps 4 Million cases by year's end @ 2 - 5%
For the year - 80k - 200k Globally ?
And the majority are elderly or have other health issues?
Out of a global population of nearly 8 Billion? Less than .025% ???
Globally about 44k
Assuming Q1 and Q4 are likely the worst time frames for infectious disease, we're looking at about 16k in US and 200k worldwide?
Edit: Perhaps 4 Million cases by year's end @ 2 - 5%
For the year - 80k - 200k Globally ?
And the majority are elderly or have other health issues?
Out of a global population of nearly 8 Billion? Less than .025% ???
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Infection rates must decrease if there is less human contact; that is simple. But we won't see the effect till all the already infected incubating cases emerge. So there is a minimum 2 week lag from onset of isolation measures.
Seeing a decline is NOT a reason to reverse the measures that have started to work. We need an epidemiologically calculated target rate. Do not know that math.
The worst thing would be premature lifting of restrictions, and having to start over. Followed by excessively long restrictions that cause preventable economic damage.
Not so easy to get it right. Like defusing a bomb.
I suggest that we all ask Larry Kudlow, and do this.
Source: https://youtu.be/MFc4MxupCNM
Seeing a decline is NOT a reason to reverse the measures that have started to work. We need an epidemiologically calculated target rate. Do not know that math.
The worst thing would be premature lifting of restrictions, and having to start over. Followed by excessively long restrictions that cause preventable economic damage.
Not so easy to get it right. Like defusing a bomb.
I suggest that we all ask Larry Kudlow, and do this.
Over the last 7 days, the curve of new cases points up, sharply .
As per a Financial Time article ( paywalled, opening it from a google search [ denmark coronavirus ICU beds ] worked for me ) , they had like 6.6 ICU beds per 100k pop on March 15th, 2020 .
As of time of edit :
Serious or ciritical : 145 cases .
They will sadly experience the breaking their HealthCareSystem's back within 2 weeks . Ways to avoid this : incrase ICU beds ( dunno ). Miracle .
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