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[Synkreto]

If 5G is linked to the spread of Covid 19, it's time to accelerate research on 6G and eradicate 5G.



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5G IS a Problem . But its just like with the Pandemic...a lot of the theories as to what is going on, how, and why, and why it is a Problem...are nonsense . But people feel inclined to buy into the nonsense...instead of simply digging in, and then finding out that 3G already was/is a Problem...well, mobile phones in general . No matter what any kind of media anywhere claims otherwise, there has/is solid research being done on the dangers and harms of our well loved communicators .

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[Patrick_68000]

5G IS a Problem . But its just like with the Pandemic...a lot of the theories as to what is going on, how, and why, and why it is a Problem...are nonsense . But people feel inclined to buy into the nonsense...instead of simply digging in, and then finding out that already was/is a Problem...well, mobile phones in general . No matter what any kind of media anywhere claims otherwise, there has/is solid research being done on the dangers and harms of our well loved communicators .

I read that in ten years 6G will be 100 times faster than 5G.

But 100 times more harmful too ?



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[Synkreto]

I read that in ten years 6G will be 100 times faster than 5G.

But 100 times more harmful too ?



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IF there is still a need for mobile networks in 10 years, and the possibility still exists ( see this paper published by NASA : https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/23jul_superstorm )...it would probably be Elon Musk's Starlink or something similar that satifies global needs ?

 

[jasonbarron]

5G IS a Problem . But its just like with the Pandemic...a lot of the theories as to what is going on, how, and why, and why it is a Problem...are nonsense . But people feel inclined to buy into the nonsense...instead of simply digging in, and then finding out that already was/is a Problem...well, mobile phones in general . No matter what any kind of media anywhere claims otherwise, there has/is solid research being done on the dangers and harms of our well loved communicators .

Oh, no doubt about that. All of the radiation from our wi-fi and cell phones cannot be good for our bodies, not to mention all of the other forms of energy beaming around that we utterly take for granted. Without having anything conclusive on 5g (yet), I'd simply argue from the basis of: nobody has hardly researched it's effects so how can anyone possibly discount its negative side effects and physical consequences? There seems to be a whole lot of eye rolling and guffawing going on from the high gray matter crowd, but it just seems illogical to me to so quickly discount it simply because the various governments of the world are salivating at a chance to shove it down our throats whether we like it or not, and we should just accept that like good little children because "government bureaucracies know what's best for us."

There's a cult of acceptance here that's looking sketchier and sketchier to me with each passing day.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Oh, no doubt about that. All of the radiation from our wi-fi and cell phones cannot be good for our bodies, not to mention all of the other forms of energy beaming around that we utterly take for granted. Without having anything conclusive on 5g (yet), I'd simply argue from the basis of: nobody has hardly researched it's effects so how can anyone possibly discount its negative side effects and physical consequences? There seems to be a whole lot of eye rolling and guffawing going on from the high gray matter crowd, but it just seems illogical to me to so quickly discount it simply because the various governments of the world are salivating at a chance to shove it down our throats whether we like it or not, and we should just accept that like good little children because "government bureaucracies know what's best for us."

There's a cult of acceptance here that's looking sketchier and sketchier to me with each passing day.

I can assure you that G5 has nothing to do with spreading viruses, which is what David Icke claims. I can also assure you there are no shapeshifting space lizards infiltrating the governments either, despite that being what David Icke claims. So when you proudly claim you listened to David Icke and found his 'theories' plausible in any sense then yes, I roll my eyes. You don't need to be an expert or extremely intelligent to realize the comical absurdness of what that bloke says. Whether there are any dangers to G5 in general is a topic that is 1) not relevant here, and 2) best raised without first bringing up someone like David Icke if you want to be taken seriously by anyone.

Anyway, I'm back to cleaning the house. Want to make a good impression on our reptilian overlords, being the good little child that I am.

 

[Synkreto]

I can assure you that G5 has nothing to do with spreading viruses, which is what David Icke claims. I can also assure you there are no shapeshifting space lizards infiltrating the governments either, despite that being what David Icke claims. So when you proudly claim you listened to David Icke and found his 'theories' plausible in any sense then yes, I roll my eyes. You don't need to be an expert or extremely intelligent to realize the comical absurdness of what that bloke says. Whether there are any dangers to G5 in general is a topic that is 1) not relevant here, and 2) best raised without first bringing up someone like David Icke if you want to be taken seriously by anyone.

Anyway, I'm back to cleaning the house. Want to make a good impression on our reptilian overlords, being the good little child that I am.

When I read "...back to cleaning the house. Want to make a good impression...", I was thinking youre expecting someone .
Hope you really recover soon man !

 

[Ian Skippy]

When I read "...back to cleaning the house. Want to make a good imperssion...", I was thinking youre expecting someone .
Hope you really recover soon man !

Thanks, but you really have to be prepared. I've been told that WW3 is imminent, the Global Elite is about to take over everything, space lizards are on the prowl and who knows what will happen when Antifa starts the civil war across the pond. So I don't know exactly who is going to knock down my door and drag me away, crying for merci, but you better believe that those boots will not find a speck of dust on my floors. When I let the forces of Evil enslave me, I at least will have the dignity to do it in a civil manner.

I will, of course, insist the doers of Evil keep 6ft distance at all times though, as is proper. They are evil, not barbaric.

 

[ZeroAi]

s being co-opted to create exactly the situation you are worried about regarding a depression and poverty. Just know that, even though you'll never hear this in the media, there are tens of millions of people who feel exactly as you and will risk death to go back to work. Personally, I work in a field that courts severe injury and/or death on a nearly daily basis in the first place, so the mindset of going back to work no matter what comes very naturally to me. I make allowances to the virus in order to make sure I don't spread it, but beyond that I make no concessions to it whatsoever. I'm working until this passes or I'm kicking up daisies, period. That's how I keep the wolves away from my family.

Great points, and I feel the same way about working! Stay safe, and here's wishing you great heatlh!

I thought that too- until the college reduced my department from 60 to 17. I was #21.

Man, I'm so sorry!

Not sure if you are in the USA, but if you are, unemployment is at 100% for the short term, so here's hoping we can get to a new normal soon and get folks back to work before the unemployment runs out!

PS - Did the college offer any of the students refunds? My son's did not, and if I learned they let instructors go instead of moving online, I'd be taking them to court for a refund...

 

[Han_Zen]

Anyway, I'm back to cleaning the house. Want to make a good impression on our reptilian overlords, being the good little child that I am.

Be careful. What looks clean and tidy in three dimensions, may look a complete mess in the 4th.

 

[Ralph Vargr]

Great points, and I feel the same way about working! Stay safe, and here's wishing you great heatlh!




Man, I'm so sorry!

Not sure if you are in the USA, but if you are, unemployment is at 100% for the short term, so here's hoping we can get to a new normal soon and get folks back to work before the unemployment runs out!

PS - Did the college offer any of the students refunds? My son's did not, and if I learned they let instructors go instead of moving online, I'd be taking them to court for a refund...

Unknown. I got reduced in 2012, BTW, so this pandemic is just my normal state of being...

Here in Missouri, everything is pretty much shut down.

 

[Morbad]

The evidence for low-energy microwaves (non-ionizing and non-thermally significant radiation) causing illness in humans is quite sparse, and worrying about non-occupational exposure to any RF or microwave radiation, from a health perspective, is almost completely unfounded. Also, wide exposure to frequencies in the same range as 5G bands long predate modern mobile networks.

Anyway, the idea of microwaves, rather than SARS-CoV-2, is somehow responsible for or related to COVID-19 is as patently stupid as fluoride in water causing AIDS.

Not sure if you are in the USA, but if you are, unemployment is at 100% for the short term, so here's hoping we can get to a new normal soon and get folks back to work before the unemployment runs out!

There is broad unemployment in some sectors in some areas, but most of the labor force, in most of the US, is still working.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Be careful. What looks clean and tidy in three dimensions, may look a complete mess in the 4th.

Oh hell no. My grandparents lived in 3D, my parents lived in 3D, I live in 3D. If them space lizards don't like that, they can go back to their own hole dimension.

 

[Ian Skippy]

PS - Did the college offer any of the students refunds? My son's did not, and if I learned they let instructors go instead of moving online, I'd be taking them to court for a refund...

FWIW: my university fired nobody and moved to a fully online model. We're currently shipping out free loaner laptops to students in lockdown who don't have proper access to the online environment. They get to keep them as long as we cant open the lecture halls. People who feel they are struggling with their thesis due to this may cancel and get a full refund for those credits so they can try again next year if they prefer.

 

[Synkreto]

Oh, no doubt about that. All of the radiation from our wi-fi and cell phones cannot be good for our bodies, not to mention all of the other forms of energy beaming around that we utterly take for granted. Without having anything conclusive on 5g (yet), I'd simply argue from the basis of: nobody has hardly researched it's effects so how can anyone possibly discount its negative side effects and physical consequences? There seems to be a whole lot of eye rolling and guffawing going on from the high gray matter crowd, but it just seems illogical to me to so quickly discount it simply because the various governments of the world are salivating at a chance to shove it down our throats whether we like it or not, and we should just accept that like good little children because "government bureaucracies know what's best for us."

There's a cult of acceptance here that's looking sketchier and sketchier to me with each passing day.

It IS difficult to see through all the smoke . People tend to base their ideas of what is going on on bits of information . Sounds smart...but if Beau Lotto is correct, Information is meaningless . Context is everything !

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768PXeWeILo

( thats Neuroscience, NOT Computer Science though . And ofc there is debate about this XD ) .

The whole accepting and/or rejecting bits of information, or tales of "reality and truth", is something we can not live without . We do discriminate, all the time, most of it happens unbeknownst to us . But, we have the option to examine whether our ways of dealing with the world, as well as our ways of understanding anything "new" that happens, to us or in the world, is based on experience only . This becomes more important when we have to deal with something we...do not have any experience with . Like a Pandemic .

Its very common for people to simply accept bits of information that fit their internal narrative, which is mostly based on the past .

 

[Synkreto]

Thanks, but you really have to be prepared. I've been told that WW3 is imminent, the Global Elite is about to take over everything, space lizards are on the prowl and who knows what will happen when Antifa starts the civil war across the pond. So I don't know exactly who is going to knock down my door and drag me away, crying for merci, but you better believe that those boots will not find a speck of dust on my floors. When I let the forces of Evil enslave me, I at least will have the dignity to do it in a civil manner.

I will, of course, insist the doers of Evil keep 6ft distance at all times though, as is proper. They are evil, not barbaric.

Honest man, another large scale War would not be to amazing or surprising...4 riders and all, all of this has happened before, and it will happen again...pandemics have the potential to cause wars due to all the nonsense coming with them ( like people or states actually stealing life saving stuff from others XD .) .

A sufficient supply of "I will get through this" spiced up with a slight overdose of gallows humour seems some good medicine right there .

 

[jasonbarron]

So, regarding my premise from the other day where I said "It's been three weeks, why is there no sign of a pandemic in my area, such as a surge in my regional hospital and bodies piling up in reefer vans?"

When the official clock started ticking my position was that by 21 days from the first official cases in my region we would know one of two things: either the covid 19 scare was real and deadly, or it wasn't. If it was real, there would be verifiable evidence. If it wasn't real there would be no evidence. This headline gives the next clue on how the "no evidence" aspect will be spun:

What California is doing right in responding to the coronavirus pandemic

California's efforts to stem the spread of the virus have been bold and controversial -- but appear to be working.

www.cnn.com

Now we are to believe that stay at home orders and various infringements on our civil liberties were the equivalent of a magic bubble that protected us from the time a governor waved his magic wand and said "Covid begone!" They can jerk us around like puppets, take away all of our rights, ignore the Constitution in the name of a global emergency and turn around and say "See! We ordered you to stay home and lo and behold the virus is not ravaging you like it is other places!"

Other than local officials co-opting a few deaths and saying they're "covid related" there will be no pandemic here...because the lockdown was soooo effective that the virus never found it's way into any of my cities 15 elder care facilities, or churches, or premature infant wards. Nope, the government waved it's magic wand, we complied and as long as we keep complying we'll all be safe.

 

[Synkreto]

The evidence for low-energy microwaves (non-ionizing and non-thermally significant radiation) causing illness in humans is quite sparse, and worrying about non-occupational exposure to any RF or microwave radiation, from a health perspective, is almost completely unfounded. Also, wide exposure to frequencies in the same range as 5G bands long predate modern mobile networks.

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IIrc, it is not about the level or intensity or even the frequencies....the network pulsing seems to be causing issues .

 

[Morbad]

There are plenty of evidence, I even posted it here on the forums. Let me look around.... where did i put it. Brb

At the risk of dragging this topic out further and providing fuel for absurd misinterpretations and conspiracy theories, this paper is the best collection of evidence I personally recall for the idea that non-thermal RF may be responsible for some degree of human health issues:

https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/12103008105187/nonionizing%20radiation%20international%20perspective%20Belpomme%20Hardell%20Carpenter%202018.pdf

There are mechanisms by which non-thermal intensities of RF radiation can cause oxidative damage and there are some correlations between exposure that is well below regulatory limits and certain illness or disease. This stuff should not be dismissed out of hand, and the basic premise that exposure limits in current regulations may well be significantly too high is entirely plausible.

However, it's also important to point out that a lot more research is needed; many of the correlations shown are still dubious; and that the lower levels of exposure being demonstrated to have possibly relevant effects are still generally higher than what people are commonly exposed to. The greatest source of exposure is also extremely unlikely to be a tower/station, unless you live within a literal stone's throw of it. One's own phone is far and away the greatest source of exposure to microwaves that most people experience.

IIrc, it is not about the level or intensity or even the frequencies....the network pulsing seems to be causing issues .

Intensity is always important, and the sort of interactions that are possible are dependent on frequency vs. intensity, as frequency dictates how far waves will penetrate into and be absorbed by different substances.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'network pulsing', in this context, other than an intermittent increase in intensity.

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

2020 really sucks.

Coronavirus: Why more rats are being spotted during quarantine

Hungry rats unable to feed off restaurant leftovers are coming on to the streets and nearer homes.

www.bbc.com

Yeah. Rats.

Desert Locust Outbreak at Crisis Point, Industry Body Says

A desert-locust plague in the Horn of Africa has reached critical proportions, according to Gro Intelligence, a privately funded commodity data and analysis service.

www.bloomberg.com

And locusts. Don't forget the locusts.

On the bright side the fires in Australia are easing up.

After more than 240 days, Australia's New South Wales is finally free from bushfires

The Australian state of New South Wales is officially free from bush fires for the first time in more than 240 days, according to the area's fire service.

edition.cnn.com

So not even mentioning the virus...

(The last few pages on lizards and 5G are unbelievable. I know one guy IRL who talks like that, and the less said the better.)

 

[sewerratuk]

2020 is going to get a whole lot worse with the biggest global recession for generations starting to come into effect already