I think the Safest place will be in North Korea 
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Naval Base Guam is quite large and well equipped, relatively speaking, but that many crew would be hard to isolate anywhere and are already overwhelming Guam (both the base and the island).
It's about 5-7 days to Hawaii and another 5-7 to the US west coast.
A week from Guam to California would best the current record, probably by a couple of days. It's one thing to be able to reach ~33knots and quite another to keep up that pace on an actual ocean for a week-plus.
This is a really, really good Article of a swiss Prof.Dr.med. Dr. h.c. Amongst some Switzerland specific remarks, he presents a LOT of insight and knowledge re the Pandemic . First the original text, 2nd a Link to the google translated text ( thanks Morbad ) :
www.mittellaendische.ch
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COVID-19 - eine Zwischenbilanz oder eine Analyse der Moral, der medizinischen Fakten, sowie der aktuellen und zukünftigen politischen Entscheidungen
DMZ – FORSCHUNG / MEDIZIN / POLITIK ¦ GASTKOMMENTAR von Prof. Dr. med. Dr. h.c. Paul Robert Vogt Überlegungen eines besorgten Schweizer Bürgers Vorwort: wieso nehme ich überhaupt Stellung? Aus 5 Gründen: 1. bin ich mit meiner Stiftung «EurAsia Heart – A Swiss Medical Foundation» seit mehr als 20...
www.mittellaendische.ch
COVID-19 - eine Zwischenbilanz oder eine Analyse der Moral, der medizinischen Fakten, sowie der aktuellen und zukünftigen politischen Entscheidungen
DMZ – FORSCHUNG / MEDIZIN / POLITIK ¦ GASTKOMMENTAR von Prof. Dr. med. Dr. h.c. Paul Robert Vogt Überlegungen eines besorgten Schweizer Bürgers Vorwort: wieso nehme ich überhaupt Stellung? Aus 5 Gründen: 1. bin ich mit meiner Stiftung «EurAsia Heart – A Swiss Medical Foundation» seit mehr als 20...
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This is a really, really good Article of a swiss Prof.Dr.med. Dr. h.c. Amongst some Switzerland specific remarks, he presents a LOT of insight and knowledge re the Pandemic . Unfortunatley, I do not know how to create an URL for a Version translated into english, if someone would be so kind to tell me, I will edit this post to link to the translated page :
COVID-19 - eine Zwischenbilanz oder eine Analyse der Moral, der medizinischen Fakten, sowie der aktuellen und zukünftigen politischen Entscheidungen
DMZ – FORSCHUNG / MEDIZIN / POLITIK ¦ GASTKOMMENTAR von Prof. Dr. med. Dr. h.c. Paul Robert Vogt Überlegungen eines besorgten Schweizer Bürgers Vorwort: wieso nehme ich überhaupt Stellung? Aus 5 Gründen: 1. bin ich mit meiner Stiftung «EurAsia Heart – A Swiss Medical Foundation» seit mehr als 20...
Just paste the link into Google and copy the "translate this page" shortcut.
Edit: forum itself is mangling the URL, but anyone capable of using Google will be able to get it translated.
Edit2: Manual URL tags worked...
https://translate.google.com/transl...d-zuk%C3%BCnftigen-politischen-entscheidungen
Excellent, thanks, edited my above post .
3 new confirmed cases. Quarantined cruise ship idiots. Seriously, they went on that ship during the pandemic while the Diamond Princess story was on the news every day. This spoils our zero cases run.
Supply change: Japan to fund firms to shift China production
Japanese manufacturers have been starved of key components from China since its factories closed due to the coronavirus.
Japan is pulling companies out of China. They won't be the only ones.
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Why not ask the actual captain?
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If you actually read the link you shared, you'd see the captain raises the exact same concern I mentioned re: billeting ashore and doesnt answer the question I raise: where you put the crew.
The why is fairly clear cut. Its the closest US base to their station, and they'll be the only CVBG available that can achieve objectives out there at the present time until a replacement could MAYBE be put to sea at short notice.
It's a pair of bad choices here, and yes, the people on Guam are at risk.
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Its a lot further than that. Transiting across the Pacific is an absolute chore, and they wont be able to do it at top speed, but cruising which (rule of thumb) is about 12-16 knots.
Also remember, its not just a case of withdrawing the carrier: her escort and support ships will need to sail with her as well.
It isnt sadly. The fact its a 'home port' for SSNs, but relies on a sub tender to service them shows the infrastructure isnt great. My memory of the place was a big warehouse region with a small staff.
The only thing I can see that its got going for it is that I'm sure the Seabees that use it actually have boots on the ground there, so they could throw together temporary accom at a pinch.
Ah yes, complete forgot about the support ships. But if it really needs to such a ship can get there in a week more or less on its own, no? In any case, my bet is they are at Guam because there simply isn't a serious alternative rather than any special properties of Guam itself. Especially if support ships cant keep up (and I have literally no clue, so defer to your experience) I don't think it is a serious proposition to have an 8 billion dollar carrier on its own with a crippled crew suffering from a poorly understood virus set out for a week+ long journey basically in the middle of nowhere.
What I find interesting about this latest twist in the conversation (aside from the curious fact of so many people from Europe interested in an American war ship), is how many people seem to be total experts on all things naval...yet I'm pretty sure only one person offering opinions here actually has any experience with the navy. I thought you guys' expertise was limited to medicine, epidemiology, social policy, all aspects of science both applied and theoretical, being able to predict the climate 100 years from present and reproductive justice. Color me impressed. Starting to feel kind of depressed with my first grade education.
Theoretically, yes.
Doctrinally speaking however we're talking about the USN, not RN, French or Spanish/Italian Navies. They would never let a carrier sail on its own anywhere. Its not a case of those ships being able to keep up (they're designed to sail as a battlegroup to support the jewel in the crown), more something the USN would never do due to their doctrine.
Mechanically speaking running that length of time flat out would absolute wreck the propulsion plant (not the reactor) and lead at best to a very expensive and lengthy maintenance period.
As I said in an earlier post, she'll be in Guam with the rest of her BG due to an emphasis on trying to balance the covid issue with operational requirements.
Worst comes to the worst, they can then cram everyone back onboard, get any replacements flown into guam and deploy to their station if the brown stuff hits the fan.
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Some interesting material and perspective with Dr Shiva:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf-qv9o8nq8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0BqRPFh1C7VI5UHMhPnmKDF6MCBepL5t84Sp-3GqImmENqPZ9aX8edmx8
Sure, of course they did. How else do you expect the deep state to act other than by discrediting him? Personally I think he's right on the money. I like how that wicki entry acts like this is ancient history
Man, imagine being the guy who simultaneously defends Fauci as 'one of the most important people' while simultaneously spreading the garbage-tier alternative facts of fauci-attacking Ayyadurai. Oh lord, I am starting to become concerned that Antifa might side with the space lizards when Jason's imminent American civil war explodes into his equally predicted WW3, while the CCP uses G5 to spread COVID19! 2020 is gonna be wild, yo!
And just when you think we've hit rock bottom, you get this:
Remarks by President Trump, Vice President Pence, and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force in Press Briefing | The White House
James S. Brady Press Briefing Room 1:52 P.M. EDT THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much everybody, and good afternoon. Today is Good Friday. And this Sunday
Maybe someone can find a high school teacher to explain the greatest leader in the world why a virus won't respond to antibiotics.
I guess when your education comes from reading wicki blurbs you can be forgiven for thinking the way you do
Ha, its already out there. Not going to link to it
I enjoy it when he attacks other people's educational background. You know you are just one question away from a mod's intervention.
I'm fairly confident that the mods have forsaken us at this pointI enjoy it when he attacks other people's educational background. You know you are just one question away from a mod's intervention.
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