No clue about other nations, but we have something called 'passive draft'. Some folks (among them me) get a letter from the state that we have been 'provisionally drafted'. We don't have to do anything, but the government can call upon us whenever they deem it needed for the country. You cannot appeal against it or reject it.
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No clue about other nations, but we have something called 'passive draft'. Some folks (among them me) get a letter from the state that we have been 'provisionally drafted'. We don't have to do anything, but the government can call upon us whenever they deem it needed for the country. You cannot appeal against it or reject it.
Every male (though this is about to get more inclusive) from age 18 to 26 in the US is legally obligated to register for the Selective Service, and even without such a system the Militia Acts allow for conscription of all males from ages 18 to 54 in certain emergencies.
It's still far easier to call up those who have served before.
If I were Fauci, I'd quit. Retire to "spend time etc" .
Let Trump and co. run the show, and let the supporters encounter the "expertise" first hand.
It'll be fine.
Business Insider reports 2300 sailors from the US carrier are now in quarantine in Guam, at hotels. Those would be negative tested men, who have been exposed.
Positive cases don't need a "quarantine", they would be in "isolation" if the report is being strictly accurate.
Boris Johnson is back at Chequers, looking a bit shaky, but on the mend.
Strangely, that gives me a sense of encouragement, 4400? miles away.
I cannot stop my father from leaving his home. Anybody else having trouble with older relatives? Every time he makes a trip I have to reset the 14 day limit, so he might die of old age before we see him, at this rate.
This lockdown is killing my arteries. We are eating cheese and eggs again, and nowhere to go walking. So she had me help to make a macaroni pie, which is a baked version of mac'n cheese, and keeps cardiologists on their yachts.
Positive cases don't need a "quarantine", they would be in "isolation" if the report is being strictly accurate.
Boris Johnson is back at Chequers, looking a bit shaky, but on the mend.
Strangely, that gives me a sense of encouragement, 4400? miles away.
I cannot stop my father from leaving his home. Anybody else having trouble with older relatives? Every time he makes a trip I have to reset the 14 day limit, so he might die of old age before we see him, at this rate.
This lockdown is killing my arteries. We are eating cheese and eggs again, and nowhere to go walking. So she had me help to make a macaroni pie, which is a baked version of mac'n cheese, and keeps cardiologists on their yachts.
Pretty desperate to run cover for Fauci, eh? I do agree, though, that he'll be on the way out soon. The sooner the better.
If I were Fauci, I'd quit. Retire to "spend time etc" .
Let Trump and co. run the show, and let the supporters encounter the "expertise" first hand.
It'll be fine.
I'd hope for a solution that would not endanger anyone, regardless of political affiliation, though. But that man served under Reagan, Bush sr., Clinton, Bush jr. and Obama. He got the Medal of Freedom for his efforts during the AIDS crisis by Bush jr. He is the walking definition of a lifelong non-partisan servant of the country. It is just sad to see this happen to him. Not surprising, but sad nevertheless.
Instead of crapping on the Dr Shiva discussion out of hand, maybe you should have at least heard him out. I swear, it's not that you guys aren't "intelligent" but you've turned that intelligence over to the cult of establishment acceptance with a zealotry that's no different then practitioners of some whacky pseudo christian doomsday cult; for all practical purposes, you're exactly what you mock. Anything that challenges your viewpoint of the establishment needs to be almost hysterically shouted down. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
Yeah, I predict President Trump will be showing him the door pretty soon. Dr Birx might be following him on the way out. These guys look at the American population like we're a tank full of white mice good for nothing but performing in whatever social experiment they can whip up. I'd still like a good explanation for why my regions numbers have almost literally frozen in place for the last two weeks.
Yeah, I predict President Trump will be showing him the door pretty soon. Dr Birx might be following him on the way out. These guys look at the American population like we're a tank full of white mice good for nothing but performing in whatever social experiment they can whip up. I'd still like a good explanation for why my regions numbers have almost literally frozen in place for the last two weeks.
Sure.
But that situation reminds me so much of repeated events in hospital that go like
Him: "I'm going to reattach the hand"
Me: "But the window has expired, it'll go gangrenous-"
Him: "You fool! I AM A GREAT SURGEON! "
Me: "Ok then, your case."
"Greatness" vs reality. Fauci isn't elected. It's not his "case".
But that situation reminds me so much of repeated events in hospital that go like
Him: "I'm going to reattach the hand"
Me: "But the window has expired, it'll go gangrenous-"
Him: "You fool! I AM A GREAT SURGEON! "
Me: "Ok then, your case."
"Greatness" vs reality. Fauci isn't elected. It's not his "case".
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I gotta say, I think part of the problem is that, having gotten used to the current situation, a lot of people have time to sit and think up ways to politicise it.
We've got black-rights activists moaning that C19 is racist, nationalists demanding that we isolate ourselves from the rest of the world, feminists shreiking that it's misogynist, conservatives whining that it's "leftist" (Steven Crowder, I'm afraid I'm looking at you) and lefties screaming about how Conservatives are trying to kill off all the poor people.
And, of course, even doctors and scientists have their own agendas and are affiliated with groups that also have their own agendas.
Seems like the trick is to focus on the practical issues right now and ignore any ideologically-motivated bullpoop until after people stop dying.
We've got black-rights activists moaning that C19 is racist, nationalists demanding that we isolate ourselves from the rest of the world, feminists shreiking that it's misogynist, conservatives whining that it's "leftist" (Steven Crowder, I'm afraid I'm looking at you) and lefties screaming about how Conservatives are trying to kill off all the poor people.
And, of course, even doctors and scientists have their own agendas and are affiliated with groups that also have their own agendas.
Seems like the trick is to focus on the practical issues right now and ignore any ideologically-motivated bullpoop until after people stop dying.
You might be on to something. I think what everyone needs to do right now is just watch this video and send up a thank you to the genius who invented air conditioning:
I'm surprised Fauci wasn't driven out sooner. Trump's administration is one where only abject sycophants seem to survive long and sycophants make terrible advisors.
Less than I was expecting. Other than my wife's grandmother, all of our family seem to be taking things seriously.
COVID-19 is none of these things, but the same cannot be said for the preparations (or lack thereof) for it and responses to it.
Many political issues are practical obstacles to saving lives. Hell, even the argument that lives are most important is an ideological position.
Less than I was expecting. Other than my wife's grandmother, all of our family seem to be taking things seriously.
COVID-19 is none of these things, but the same cannot be said for the preparations (or lack thereof) for it and responses to it.
Many political issues are practical obstacles to saving lives. Hell, even the argument that lives are most important is an ideological position.
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@Ian Skippy I know that I'm totally bumming you with my ignorant attacks on Dr Fauci, my irreverent, backwards, tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theories implying that "something just isn't adding up" and even going so far as to be critical of our governments rolling all deaths for whatever reason into total covid morbidity rates. I've even had the vulgar audacity to question what's happening in the hospitals in New York, prompting you to show me the tough love of shaming and scorning me for daring to walk a different path. Since you were so profoundly disappointed in me that you even had to scornfully comment that "I'd be sharing videos claiming that the people in the New York hospitals were "paid actors" or words to that effect, I just want you to know that that's a line I would never cross. I offer the following video as proof of this last claim, showing the doctors on the front line of this terrible battle where it's all hands on deck and as real as it gets:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQP5wRAJVnI
I have read that the soldiers will be grouped in small groups to different places in the region.
However, operations will be carried out meticulously from the Toulon naval base.
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I forgot that we have to add 200 people on the frigate that accompanies the aircraft carrier.Not a surprise.
The problem will tend to occur on any ship with many people in close proximity. Passenger aircraft being an even worse thing. Also true of ground mass transit.
The risk to the service workers is recognised, but the military/sailors on ships can't just pop out and walk home. It's a real problem when they do hit ports, triggering waves of epidemic in Japan, Australia, and here to a lesser extent.
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Shh, don’t be saying things like that round here, these type of people are of high standing and whatever they say is the truth, they are all above having hidden agendas, the very thought
Very true. When all of this started it was pretty A-pollical and it was sort of nice watching political enemies not fighting for the sake of it (at least here in the UK where all the pot-shots ended and the opposition parties gave constructive criticism and even support). I think relentless criticism from the media (the press in particular really) has forced a return to the norm. The bickering is back and along with it the attempted point scoring.
I read some drivel in the Guardian the other day about the virus and 'English exceptionalism' and on the other end of the spectrum we have the Daily Mail simultaneously trying wind up readers because people some are breaching the lockdown, whilst implying that enforcing the lockdown is turning us into a police state.
I don't really think most people in the UK are harking back to day of Empire or particularly annoyed about the police dispersing idiots having parties. Most people seem to understand that if we follow the rules, the sooner this will all be over (and the same in most countries I'd imagine). Slowly but surely peoples agendas are creeping back in; which is a shame because we haven't stopped the virus yet.
People are entitled to wind down, take a break and distract themselves from a miserable job. If you are having a tough day do you try to have a laugh somehow or watch videos about genocide or other terrible subjects? There are plenty of videos on YouTube of people making fun of horrible situations as a way to cope with them. I don't see why this is should be any different.
I think these are the kind of things you get up to when you're super bored and have a whole lotta time on your hands.
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I mostly just shared the video for a laugh, but I really doubt that all those people coming up with sweet tik tok Brittany Spears inspired dance moves happen to be working in wards and hospitals filled to capacity with people choking to death on their own mucus and needing to be hauled outside to temporary mortuaries because the hospital is at 300% capacity. What those videos show is a bunch of people who are frickin bored out of their skulls. Hours and hours with almost nothing to do, so they're screwing around killing time.
I'm all about the gallows humor, but to honestly think that the healthcare officials having to triage all of the elders in effected areas are out there singing and dancing like that is just a bit too ghastly for me.
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