first discovered by Validating

C Yeager

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Help I'm on my first really big Exploration trip about 8000+ light years from the bubble. I really want to get some first discovery tags but everything seems to say "first discovered by validating".

So my questions are:

1) Is this just because I have to return to the bubble and sell the cartographic data before I am attributed the find?

2) Is there really a Cmdr Validating (I seriously doubt it)?

3) Is this a database glitch that it does not have access to?

4) lastly I read years ago this was a glitch with Xbox migration but thought that was fixed. could it be related?
 

C Yeager

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Thanks Alkibiades and Para Handy I appreciate clearing this up.
I can now continue exploring with some confidence that when I return to the bubble I will get some tags.
 

Esteban

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I've seen that too (validating). I've also seen blanks where info would be shown.
Does this mean that someone's been there and that it's now about who get's back first? (as opposed to you truly being the first one to ever be there)
 

Faded Glory

Faded Glory
Just to say, Validating does not mean it's not been tagged.

I saw a system on my way back to hand in my data with Validating. I charged the FSS just for fun as if the system were unscanned it would mean that I'd tag the stars. Got back and when I checked the system it was credited to a real player.

I'd say that if you can see a body in the system map (out in the black) then it has been discovered and the data handed in, otherwise you'd not see it. ;)

@Esteban - Again, if you can see a body in the system map, then it must have been discovered as that's how it works now. Undiscovered systems (or bodies in a system) do not show up in the system map for you until you scan them with the FSS. After you do scan a system you will be able to see bodies in the system map, but the discovered by tags will be blank, and assuming that you get back and sell the data, your name will be put in there.

It's certainly possible that someone has scanned it and will beat you back to sell the data, but I'd have to say it's a vanishingly small likelihood. As in I've explored quite a bit (have over a billion credits in exploration data) and it has not happened to me once that a system that I had scanned and cared about ended up being tagged by someone else.
 

Esteban

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Faded Glory said:
Undiscovered systems (or bodies in a system) do not show up in the system map for you until you scan them with the FSS
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Thanks for that clarification. I have noticed that behavior in the system maps during my first two exploration forays out of the bubble and wondered about that distinction. That verification is very helpful.

Happy travels...
 

Faded Glory

Faded Glory
You're welcome.

And just in case you don't know, when you first jump into a system, if your scanner remains empty until your FSS completes its passive scan, then that system is unexplored, but if bodies appear immediately, it means another player has already scanned it and sold the data.
 

Major_Tom_Wilkinson

Major_Tom_Wilkinson
2) I was at different parts of the galaxy and ran into many systems discovered by Validating. The odds were too great for that to happen. But at first I thought, whoa.
 

sinisalo

sinisalo
C Yeager said:
2) Is there really a Cmdr Validating (I seriously doubt it)?
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I checked Inara and there's a ship called that, but no commander (which doesn't rule it out, only fails to prove it). I'm out in the black and have come across this a number of times. I assumed it meant someone has very recently submitted the data and it's err, vaildating.
 

Red Anders

Red Anders
Commander Validating is branching out, he had the third highest bounty in my home system yesterday 😁

I expect he will be ganking outside Jameson soon.
 

STRONTIUM DOG

STRONTIUM DOG
when I was 1st to discover an earth type world that could support life It was a special moment for me
like winning the jackpot on an online fake money fruit machine with twelve fruit's rollers lol
 
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CunningStunt

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I though CMDR Validating was a placeholder for data from various platforms before they are all merged into the main galaxy data. So if a CMDR on Xbox scans a system and sell the data it will say Validating until the xbox and ps4 galaxy data is merged into the PC galaxy data, then it is replaced by the CMDRs name. Same with bounty tables on station news.
 

STRONTIUM DOG

STRONTIUM DOG
I believe that to be a complete fiction apart from maybe first time discovery's although they say its one big galaxy maybe for pc players there is no way they all cross platform and correlate together still if someone could prove via a screeine that fist time discovery's lets say 5000 ly away from sol is the same on the x box that would prove me wrong
in fact I don't even think the pc player game data all correlates imo
still I don't care either way because things seldom change no matter what anyone does and that is the fact of the matter agggh this unfortunately is a steady state universe...………...
 
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AFAIK that's a Database conversion quirk that occurred when cross-platform CMDR Names somehow got filtered out for some post-processing (automatic conversion failure cases).

Unsure if that's due to UniCode, special Characters used in CMDR names or simply a plain processing/script error.

But anyway, if you see 1st Discovered by "Validating", it means it's been discovered by another CMDR from another Platform (for all I know) with some undisclosed CMDR label issues.
No idea if that'll ever get fixed.
 

Cmdr Nemo

Cmdr Nemo
FalconFly said:
AFAIK that's a Database conversion quirk that occurred when cross-platform CMDR Names somehow got filtered out for some post-processing (automatic conversion failure cases).

Unsure if that's due to UniCode, special Characters used in CMDR names or simply a plain processing/script error.

But anyway, if you see 1st Discovered by "Validating", it means it's been discovered by another CMDR from another Platform (for all I know) with some undisclosed CMDR label issues.
No idea if that'll ever get fixed.
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I believe the validation process works like this. Anyone believing they have made a first discovery must actually be the first to successful sell the data prior to anyone else whom believe they have made the same discovery. The process isn't as fast as one would like because there are so many player's utilizing a variety of platforms. Though I may actually have been the first to discover something, if I don't sell the data prior to anyone else using the same or a different platform whom may have made the same first discovery. It's not the fastest process, but it's the fairest.
 

JonathanBurnage

JonathanBurnage
What I don’t get is why I see it on my own discoveries that I made ages ago. It comes and goes as well. Sometimes they’ll all be ‘Validating’, then after a while my name appears again.
 

STRONTIUM DOG

STRONTIUM DOG
any one on there way to colonia or back to sol please detour to PLAA AESCS JT-Q C18-57 A1 supposedly first discovered by me STRONTIUM DOG
I seriously doubt your map will read the same
still the best form of data preservation we have is to carve it into rock until proven otherwise so go tell the spatans
 
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SMcA

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STRONTIUM DOG said:
any one on there way to colonia or back to sol please detour to PLAA AESCS JT-Q C18-57 A1 supposedly first discovered by me STRONTIUM DOG
I seriously doubt your map will read the same
still the best form of data preservation we have is to carve it into rock until proven otherwise so go tell the spatans
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There thou beholdest the walls of Sparta, and every man a brick. 👁👁

I'm sure I did that test years ago and validating is what it says it is. My S/shot with validating was validated into a commanders name.
 
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