Hardware & Technical 760 or 670?

S.H.A.D.O

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a big "Sorry guys" to the Frontier moderators for probably posting in the wrong area.


but I need an answer quick like. I am buying a new GPU tomorrow and need advice asap!

Current gpu: 650 GTX

Options: 670 GTX (used) or 760 GTX (new) (both are at the top of my price range!)

Which of the two cards would be better for Elite, yes thats all that matters :D
 
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Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Jenner
I think Hardware and Technical forum would be the place for asking this.

I have a 680 and Elite runs perfectly maxed out at 1920x1200.
 

S.H.A.D.O

S
Jenner said:
I think Hardware and Technical forum would be the place for asking this.

I have a 680 and Elite runs perfectly maxed out at 1920x1200.
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You're right it is the right place, I was just desperate for a quick answer, sorry and thank you for being kind and not telling me off.

I think a 680 is higher than those two but as you can imagine when it comes to gpu's I'm no expert :p
 

Surfinjo

Surfinjo
Buy the new unit.

I have one of those. Excellent.

You don't say which manufacturer is making your 760 GTX. Mine is made by Asus.
 

Surfinjo

Surfinjo
Jenner said:
I think Hardware and Technical forum would be the place for asking this.

I have a 680 and Elite runs perfectly maxed out at 1920x1200.
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May I ask, do you know anything about changing the settings in Graphics cards?

I have a 760 with the Asus GPU Tweak It provides for tweaking the following:

GPU Boost Clock 1072

Max GPU Voltage mV 1200

Memory Clock MHz 6008

Power Target% 100

GPU Temp Target C 80

Fan Speed % 29 (Set to Auto)

Frame Rate Target (FPS) 0

Display Refresh Rate Hz 60

I'd prefer to have some background information on these settings and what they do before fiddling, but I can't find anywhere with reliable information.

Would appreciate any information you can supply. :)
 

Davevti

Davevti
Asus don't actually make the card you know! They just make it look pretty and add an aftermarket cooler most of the time.
Get the one with a good warranty and priced nicely, I've seen certain companies adding 30% just for the name.
 

Amaze

Amaze
S.H.A.D.O said:
a big "Sorry guys" to the Frontier moderators for probably posting in the wrong area.


but I need an answer quick like. I am buying a new GPU tomorrow and need advice asap!

Current gpu: 650 GTX

Options: 670 GTX (used) or 760 GTX (new) (both are at the top of my price range!)

Which of the two cards would be better for Elite, yes thats all that matters :D
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I don't know about the 670 but I have a 760 and I am happy with it.
If you are restricted in price like I was and are using a single screen you should find the GTX760 good enough for E: D.
 

Surfinjo

Surfinjo
Davevti said:
Asus don't actually make the card you know! They just make it look pretty and add an aftermarket cooler most of the time.
Get the one with a good warranty and priced nicely, I've seen certain companies adding 30% just for the name.
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Nope.

The old wives tale that they are all the same is simply not true.

I was involved in electronic design and installation in the 70s and early 80s.

Two component might have the same catalogue designation for example, but the difference comes in the permitted tolerances between brands and even within brands. I don;t know what the markings are now, but when I was involved the different qualitys for a specific manufacturer were generally indicated by a suffic letter, A B C ect. The different manufacturers also were very different. The best back then were American and British, European can next, Russian came next then Far East, which tended to be cheap crap.

The quality of the components used in the manufacture will have a huge effect on performance. This is especially evident in PSUs where the best, Corsair, OCZ can easily out perform cheaper manufacturers.
 

Davevti

Davevti
Surfinjo said:
Nope.

The old wives tale that they are all the same is simply not true.

I was involved in electronic design and installation in the 70s and early 80s.

Two component might have the same catalogue designation for example, but the difference comes in the permitted tolerances between brands and even within brands. I don;t know what the markings are now, but when I was involved the different qualitys for a specific manufacturer were generally indicated by a suffic letter, A B C ect. The different manufacturers also were very different. The best back then were American and British, European can next, Russian came next then Far East, which tended to be cheap crap.

The quality of the components used in the manufacture will have a huge effect on performance. This is especially evident in PSUs where the best, Corsair, OCZ can easily out perform cheaper manufacturers.
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To some extent I agree, but I have seen countless breakdowns of many modern components/GPUs etc and they are pretty much the same.
Companies get stock of reference cards from AMD and Nvidia then design 'their' product on top of them, this is no wives tale, its fact.

In rare or premium versions of certain cards I agree that a lot of backwards engineering and redesign is involved, new PCBs, better quality capacitors, resistors etc but you will most likely not find them on lower end/spec cards, custom coolers at the most.

I'm not sure of the practice's in the 70s and 80s but it would not be viable to remake every card that comes through their door nowadays.
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
S.H.A.D.O said:
Thank you for that but I have one very newbie question, what does 'Discrete' mean in that list?
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I believe that the term "Discrete" is used because the current GPUs are of real small computers independent and work almost independently of the main computer (CPU, RAM etc.).
 

S.H.A.D.O

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Well thanks for all the help guys, I've just this minute ordered my new card!

My budget was £150-£170 but I've broke my bank and dug out all the pennies behind the couch and I just paid £220 for a Gigabyte 770 GTX. OUCH!!!!

I'm broke now and this flipping game is costing me an arm and a leg. was going to buy a new PSU too but with going for the more expensive gpu it means I will have to make do with my current 570watt psu or at least until the end of next month or so.

Thank you for all your help, now I need to go clean the pennies out from under the carpet to buy a coffee :D
 
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