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I'm not trolling at all. If after 2 hours of gameplay and a fairly minor setback due to not focussing on the game your position is
Then it probably isn't the game for you. There are much greater challenges ahead.
YOU suggested throwing the game away, not me
The best place to adjust settings are the various tutorials/training missions not only because they don’t affect your ship in game but because they are repeatable so you can clearly see the effects of what you did.Thanks for that.
Okay I opened the settings I never stepped away from the keys. I was actively exploring the UI, adjusting graphics, audio and controller settings. I understand the sentiment that there is little difference. Beyond that. If I need to consider myself afk any time I don't have my path of travel in FOV; Saving key #2 the chat. (which as of yet is still out of contrast for reading) The sub assemblies have terrible peripherals, it wouldn't be an issue to glance left and run a scan while actively piloting, without running into things, if I were sitting in the cockpit actual. The UI makes the process unrealistically difficult in this regard.
you can best access them from the main menu but they are also available from in your cockpit via the right hand menu but it is best to have your ship in a safe place first.
Look, I tried to make my original post clear that I was not definitively scrapping the game. While I admittedly took part in making some exaggerative and even sarcastic remarks conveying my frustrations. I came for discussion, on a topic of a game I am very interested in. Not because I need someone to "show me the light!" so that I can have "the will to command again!" -_- So, if all you are willing to offer in the discussion is negativity, I kindly ask that you sow your discord elsewhere.
Instead of devoting your energies to disputation on the forum, if you had just accepted it as a learning experience and got back in your rebuy or started again you would be well past the progression that you were at when you messed up.
Seriously, there are many things in the game that will wind you up (collective you) but the overall magnificence more than makes up for its foibles.
Get back in there and enjoy yourself.
Hi Op o/ .
1st sorry for you , it seems you had some bad experience with the docking computer. As many have stated before, you should try to learn how to dock manualy as it is way faster , and IMO great fun.
2nd Elite unfortunatly heavly relies on 3rd party software for many details, but i recommend you to check theses later ( when you feel you need it) on reddit / google/ these forums.
3rd crime and punishement are made in some wierd way as some newcommer feel heavly punished for really small mistake while hi-end griefer know how to avoid the system and are nearly unpunished. But lets be honest unless you are really unlucky being arrested / put into detention wont happen alot if you play the "clean" side.
Just to help you understand , at some point in the game people started to take really big ship and were blocking starport entry to annoy other or to deliver a message.
This is why station are a bit angry when you stay to long in the wrong place.
4th : I totaly understand why and support creation of some journal were you could see what leaded to your death IN GAME , and think it is a great idea.
Lastly , if you enjoyed your 1st 1hour and 50 min , I'd advise you to give it a second try as for me and many other , it is a great game.
(Also to people that nearly trash talk , a newcomer that have 2 hour in game and take the time to make a post at the forum, not being "IM DEAD THIS GAME IS TRASH OMG", please grow up, as I understand elite is for you an "elite" game, totaly discouraging new players because they point out their experience and not actually help them is really lame and not an "elite" attitude.)
1st sorry for you , it seems you had some bad experience with the docking computer. As many have stated before, you should try to learn how to dock manualy as it is way faster , and IMO great fun.
2nd Elite unfortunatly heavly relies on 3rd party software for many details, but i recommend you to check theses later ( when you feel you need it) on reddit / google/ these forums.
3rd crime and punishement are made in some wierd way as some newcommer feel heavly punished for really small mistake while hi-end griefer know how to avoid the system and are nearly unpunished. But lets be honest unless you are really unlucky being arrested / put into detention wont happen alot if you play the "clean" side.
Just to help you understand , at some point in the game people started to take really big ship and were blocking starport entry to annoy other or to deliver a message.
This is why station are a bit angry when you stay to long in the wrong place.
4th : I totaly understand why and support creation of some journal were you could see what leaded to your death IN GAME , and think it is a great idea.
Lastly , if you enjoyed your 1st 1hour and 50 min , I'd advise you to give it a second try as for me and many other , it is a great game.
(Also to people that nearly trash talk , a newcomer that have 2 hour in game and take the time to make a post at the forum, not being "IM DEAD THIS GAME IS TRASH OMG", please grow up, as I understand elite is for you an "elite" game, totaly discouraging new players because they point out their experience and not actually help them is really lame and not an "elite" attitude.)
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Ah, one of the oldest - and still unfixed - bugs comes back around to bite. For the 100.000th time (likely far more than that).
Short Version
Cause of Bug :
Age of Bug : Over 5 years, been there forever. Bug-Reported many times but never fixed.
The introduction of the Advanced Docking Computer has amplified the bug, as it transforms the own Ship guidance into an NPC basically - with the exact same logic flaws as regular NPCs and the same outcome.
Previously with the regular Docking Computer, all that would happen was that the own Ship would remain stuck outside until the Docking Clearance Timer ran out.
Annoying but technically no harm done. The Standard Docking Computer killed Player Ships in multiple other ways
Welcome to ELITE... Don't ever expect Docking Computers to operate correctly all the time. This has never worked, not in >5 years. Not once.
They can be useful - but always check for signs of failure and be ready to intervene. They're not "AFK safe" by any means, far from it.
Short Version
- Station Instances populated by Players can quickly trigger a bug that'll cause NPCs normally departing the Station to stall and go AWOL (they'll sit "lost" and passive inside the Station or do weird stuff until the Station destroys them)
- attempting to depart a Station with the Advanced Docking Computer these days will queue the own Ship behind other NPCs... including stalled ones, meaning the own Ship will remain stuck until it is destroyed as well
- manual intervention (leaving the Station manually) is mandatory to prevent undue loss of time and/or eventually loss of own Ship under these circumstances
- notably, this bug will typically not occur when alone all the time or i.e. in Solo Mode
Cause of Bug :
- failed Island Merges and Transfers to a new host, causing NPC script malfunctions on one or more NPCs in the Instance
- lack of sanity checks on NPC scripts to detect such a stalled condition
Age of Bug : Over 5 years, been there forever. Bug-Reported many times but never fixed.
The introduction of the Advanced Docking Computer has amplified the bug, as it transforms the own Ship guidance into an NPC basically - with the exact same logic flaws as regular NPCs and the same outcome.
Previously with the regular Docking Computer, all that would happen was that the own Ship would remain stuck outside until the Docking Clearance Timer ran out.
Annoying but technically no harm done. The Standard Docking Computer killed Player Ships in multiple other ways
Welcome to ELITE... Don't ever expect Docking Computers to operate correctly all the time. This has never worked, not in >5 years. Not once.
They can be useful - but always check for signs of failure and be ready to intervene. They're not "AFK safe" by any means, far from it.
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Instead of devoting your energies to disputation on the forum, if you had just accepted it as a learning experience and got back in your rebuy or started again you would be well past the progression that you were at when you messed up.
Seriously, there are many things in the game that will wind you up (collective you) but the overall magnificence more than makes up for its foibles.
Get back in there and enjoy yourself.
Disputation is always a good use of energy, sharing experiences with other allows us perspective, I was perceiving frustration, and sought out those that were in a mindframe of logic. To have " just accepted it" is too much of an "It is what it is" response IMO, and frankly just not how I go through life. Thanks for your view of this one, I'm not done yet, hope to see you out there CMDR. o7
Never do that in an area where there is danger, taking off, docking, even using the DC, anywhere around other players and NPC's, flying over planets and moons, even just sitting on the surface of a planet in the bubble can be dangerous, in SC in the bubble, although I do that quite often out in the black far away from civilisation. What I mean by taking the eye off the ball is being in a situation where you can't see the radar and have view through the canopy, it's a spaceship, fly it as if every moment could be your last.
Thanks for that.
Okay I opened the settings I never stepped away from the keys. I was actively exploring the UI, adjusting graphics, audio and controller settings. I understand the sentiment that there is little difference. Beyond that. If I need to consider myself afk any time I don't have my path of travel in FOV; Saving key #2 the chat. (which as of yet is still out of contrast for reading) The sub assemblies have terrible peripherals, it wouldn't be an issue to glance left and run a scan while actively piloting, without running into things, if I were sitting in the cockpit actual. The UI makes the process unrealistically difficult in this regard.
Most of us cope.
Regarding glancing left (or up, down or right - there are five additional UI screens in your cockpit, four of which can be influenced by the pilot - plus the main screen, which can show station services or other stuff like powerplay, codex or engineers which you can select from the right screen), there are two major options:
- the screen comes up (and gets the focus) automatically by looking at it. That's an option that is more often selected by flatscreen players
- the screen comes up and gets the focus when you press a specific button (per default 1-4 on the keyboard IIRC). That's the option more often selected by VR pilots.
Stay alert. Learn to dock. Save lives.
That way, you won't violate the lockdown with unwarranted trips to detention centres.
Regardless of attitudes to the harsh punishments for docking violations, they just don't happen when you're doing it yourself.
That way, you won't violate the lockdown with unwarranted trips to detention centres.
Regardless of attitudes to the harsh punishments for docking violations, they just don't happen when you're doing it yourself.
Hey, no problem. It's actually the best advice in this thread.
You're new to the game, we all were at one point, but... there was no starter area, and this whole auto docking thing, I don't remember having the opportunity for that, and I'm grateful for that.
After doing the tutorials, I do remember taking nearly the entire time allowed trying to dock after my first mission, and by the time I had run as many as you, my docking time was down to a solid 2-3minutes - a fraction of the time you sat in a queue waiting for the ADC to sacrifice you.
So ya, sounds like you need to throw off those training wheels and actually learn how to fly your ship.
Some times autopilot just messes up, and you need to override it. Keep eye on counter telling you your docking/undocking remaining time. If you run under minute take over and do manual docking/undocking. Otherwise, yes station will kill you, and you get punished. (That one minute rule is my own idea, enough time to do it properly...)
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In my experience since coming back it doesn’t ... maybe for a minute to leave but I have always been docked straight away on request so maybe put in a ticket to Frontier?
I wonder if in fact the OP had overridden the DC more than just the once, as they said "...Curious, I bump the throttle again..." - overriding the DC then re-engaging it by zeroing throttle does not reset the timer (I just checked to be sure) so maybe the OP lost their place in the queue by doing so? In any event, all it needs is for someone to muck the queue up, be it stalled NPC or a commander stuck in the toast-rack for the timer to run down.