you have this real 'it doesn't affect me so screw everyone else' attitude. you've got your way dude, what more do you want? just be happy about that and let those of us who are disappointed express that
ANNOUNCEMENT Elite Dangerous: Odyssey Announcement
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you have this real 'it doesn't affect me so screw everyone else' attitude. you've got your way dude, what more do you want? just be happy about that and let those of us who are disappointed express that
It appears to be the latter, but I would love to be wrong!
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Being disappointed and having a tantrum are not the same. We are talking about adults, presumably financially secure given the cost of gaming vr pc. Its unbecoming and gives the lot of us a bad image. It doesnt affect anyone unless they choose to let it be an issue. All of this belly aching is mostly over speculation. Its sickening
According to some German game site with some info on Oddysey, apparently walking on ships is not in this update. Instead we'll deploy on ground as we do with the SRV currently.
I'm hoping that is not correct, but we'll see. Not a deal breaker, but kind of a bummer.
No VR, Odyssey is no point of getting for me then? The main why Elite Dangerous is the game i have stayed with and played the most for years is because of VR support.
The thing i have been dreaming about for years was to stand on a planet in first person in VR looking at the vistas. Guess that is out of the window now.
So the people who bought on Oculus Store won`t get the option to upgrade to Odyssey now?
VR needs to be a option for Odyssey, i`m one of those people with a strong stomach who never get motion sickness in VR.
I`m very torn on this, i hope VR will come later.
As it stands now with the drop of VR support im not sure if i will even play Elite when Odyssey release.
When i play on a screen ive never been able to get the scale of the game as i do in when i play VR.
The thing i have been dreaming about for years was to stand on a planet in first person in VR looking at the vistas. Guess that is out of the window now.
So the people who bought on Oculus Store won`t get the option to upgrade to Odyssey now?
VR needs to be a option for Odyssey, i`m one of those people with a strong stomach who never get motion sickness in VR.
I`m very torn on this, i hope VR will come later.
As it stands now with the drop of VR support im not sure if i will even play Elite when Odyssey release.
When i play on a screen ive never been able to get the scale of the game as i do in when i play VR.
And THUMPER
Have you spent much time in VR (via friends)? Initially I was a little shocked by the low resolution etc, but I really struggle to enjoy 2D games now. I bought Witcher 3, played for a few hours and quickly headed back to VR. Recently bought Control and it's the same story. Both are great games and both look beautiful at 4K on highest settings, but VR has been a complete paradigm shift for me. I'm just not interested in 2D games anymore.
Very disappointed by Frontier's choice of direction.
Frontier: I’ve spent a lot of money on a VR PC and I love ED in VR: get the new era working in VR and I’ll pay double the current cost of Odyssey.
Replace "VR" with "Open-only Power Play", or "meaningful PvP", or "Cobra Mk4 for PS4 players" and take a guess
Speaking of the latter, any word if PS4 players will get the Cobra MK4 in Odyssey?
Eh, they promised either of those? Well, except for ps4 because who cares?
Can you link the posts or claims please? No sarcasm here, i've stopped playing many years ago and probably missed that. Came back to try out VR because i finally got a top notch PC, heh, what an irony.
With over 3000 hours already in-game Frontier's confirmation of 'No VR in Odessey' is now a game-breaker for me. Especially as the small team developing No Man's Sky incorporate VR professionally and easily into their planet side activities. I don't know what to say other than I'm very disappointed by the obvious lack of comparative skills and capabilities of the Frontier Fdevs. I, perhaps like some other VR users on here, will probably feel that the time has come to free ourselves of the upcoming restrictive shackles of ED and venture to support other competitive Space Sims that are, even by today's standards, considered so much more progressive.
I'm not someone who gets a kick out of logging onto forums to complain, but as a fan, I feel like I've got to say something here.
After playing this game for 431 hours, for me personally (as well as my three buddies that are also regular players), VR support isn't a feature. It's a core element of the game.
Removing it for Odyssey (or temporarily removing it without any guarantee that it will ever be added) is akin to removing the thumbsticks from my xbox controller and asking me to play Halo.
Elite will always be first and foremost an EXPERIENTIAL game. It's all about the feeling of exploring space, being put realistically inside a ship for combat, etc. Nothing fulfills that more than putting my head inside a spaceship.
To say that I won't play elite anymore without VR isn't a threat, or whining, it's just a reality (and from the comments above, I'm sure that it's also the reality of thousands of other VR first players).
Even worse, I'm genuinely not clear on what the value proposition of Odyssey even is. Space legs has always been a feature that sounds great on paper but starts to fall apart as you think about how it could be implemented. The features they're describing (viewing sunsets, exploring planet surfaces etc) are by and large things that are ALREADY IN THE GAME.
What Elite really needs is new systems to motivate players. New mission types. New ships. A deeper world to explore. Look at Star Citizen. They've been trying to implement this FROM THE GROUND UP in their game, and look how far (or not far) they've gone.
If you guys implement his as a shallow combat add-on that destroys VR compatibility for thousands of fans, you're not just gonna lose a chunk of your paying customer base. You're also going to lose some of your biggest and most vocal fans.
PLEASE commit to supporting VR for all future game features. It's in your interest, along with the interest of the community at large.
After playing this game for 431 hours, for me personally (as well as my three buddies that are also regular players), VR support isn't a feature. It's a core element of the game.
Removing it for Odyssey (or temporarily removing it without any guarantee that it will ever be added) is akin to removing the thumbsticks from my xbox controller and asking me to play Halo.
Elite will always be first and foremost an EXPERIENTIAL game. It's all about the feeling of exploring space, being put realistically inside a ship for combat, etc. Nothing fulfills that more than putting my head inside a spaceship.
To say that I won't play elite anymore without VR isn't a threat, or whining, it's just a reality (and from the comments above, I'm sure that it's also the reality of thousands of other VR first players).
Even worse, I'm genuinely not clear on what the value proposition of Odyssey even is. Space legs has always been a feature that sounds great on paper but starts to fall apart as you think about how it could be implemented. The features they're describing (viewing sunsets, exploring planet surfaces etc) are by and large things that are ALREADY IN THE GAME.
What Elite really needs is new systems to motivate players. New mission types. New ships. A deeper world to explore. Look at Star Citizen. They've been trying to implement this FROM THE GROUND UP in their game, and look how far (or not far) they've gone.
If you guys implement his as a shallow combat add-on that destroys VR compatibility for thousands of fans, you're not just gonna lose a chunk of your paying customer base. You're also going to lose some of your biggest and most vocal fans.
PLEASE commit to supporting VR for all future game features. It's in your interest, along with the interest of the community at large.
This was exactly what I expected, too. Feels like an incredibly tone-deaf move on their part.
And if all the dev focus shifts heavily towards the new expansion(s), neglecting what will now be the "base" game, then I will be pausing ARX purchases, other than the weekly earned ones.
It's a non-reveal livestream, not dedicated to Odyssey
Fair enough, they did just cover VR in the livestream (no further news to share for a while). I'll wait in hope.
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Sure you are correct it's a minority. Just like it's a minority who use a wheel and pedal setup in a rally game. Those who do however make very expensive purchasing decisions based on support in a game and don't expect support to be removed down the line.... I will tell you 1 thing with certainty tho... The vast majority as in 99%who bought it on the oculus store bought it for VR and had they known by doing this they would have been locked out of the expansions how many would have bought it I wonder ?
No VR for Odyssey? Honestly, I don't see the point in buying Odyssey. If I have to wait for the ed VR version in 2022 (and I'm not sure it will happen), I would look at Star Citizen. If I have to change the game, it will be for SC, more modern and more advanced. But none of them have RVs ... yet. 
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I did warn you...
How "Space Legs" should be implemented (in my opinion)
ED already has a completely functional zero-g physics and collision engine, a functional variable-g physics and collision engine, and a way of transitioning between them well. The engine is perfectly capable of handling the same realistic gravity the series has had in lore for decades and it has...
I did warn you...
No VR....
This feels like being ganked by FDev after coming from a several weeks exploration trip. Ganked successfully.
Well done.
While the statement was "not supported on launch", I sense something of a "never" behind the lines.
The first joy of the news of a new expansion was almost immediately switched to huge disappointment.
VR players are just not worth the effort.
I will continue playing ED until the expansion is available, but cannot imagine myself continuing afterwards. I would feel robbed. Or a second class person.
This feels like being ganked by FDev after coming from a several weeks exploration trip. Ganked successfully.
Well done.
While the statement was "not supported on launch", I sense something of a "never" behind the lines.
The first joy of the news of a new expansion was almost immediately switched to huge disappointment.
VR players are just not worth the effort.
I will continue playing ED until the expansion is available, but cannot imagine myself continuing afterwards. I would feel robbed. Or a second class person.
It might have been once, clearly we are now in the era of appealing to the masses, hence the addition of an FPS element at the expense of more traditional elite features.
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