ANNOUNCEMENT Elite Dangerous: Odyssey Announcement

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Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
Mad Mike said:
I have to disagree . I think NMS in VR is great. I refused to buy it without VR but ordered day 1 the moment the patch dropped. . But to each their own (that said I don't play in steamVR. I never use it if there is an option. Shame it's not native oculus mind you
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I had it before Vulkan was introduced in the experimental channel, the OpenGL engine was excellent! Vulkan pancake did gain a few FPS without sacrificing any clarity or depth, even the initial VR offering was pretty good, if a stuttery mess, but it has improved in some ways, just not far enough to be rated as PCVR in comparison to most VR games. (but then - ALyx...)
No problem with you disagreeing with me Mike, it is a very subjective matter. The game itself, particularly in 4K pancake (sorry :) ) is massively different and scales beautifully to resolution.
Agree that it would be great if it had native Oculus support (y)
 

Skelotec

Skelotec
No VR!?

EDF make the same mistake as everyone else.
They think for VR the controllers must be usable in the game.

But a VR shooter with 4DoF would suffice.
so that you can then play wonderfully with mouse and keyboard (Nostromo).
The I am in the game perspective, is all that counts.
In my opinion you don't need 6DoF and the controllers for VR-shooters as hands in the game.
 

[VR] Orodruin

[VR] Orodruin
Maggie_Oz said:
You have both setups, VR and normal, so you have the choice to either right now.
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Again a fallacy on your part. You certainly keep them coming. In order to make something playable, I would have to invest in a new screen as I currently play games exclusively in VR. So no, you cannot make the assumption that VR players have both setups available to them.
 

[VR] Orodruin

[VR] Orodruin
Maggie_Oz said:
I'm not sure what you mean by that but I am guessing you think that if I tried VR I would never be able to play in any other mode.
I can assure you that isn't the case. Visuals are a very low priority for me, which is one of the many reasons I am unlikely to ever make the, quite significant, investment in VR.
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So just because visuals are not high priority for you personally, you feel comfortable telling everybody to whom visuals do matter that they are not allowed to be upset that visuals are changing for the worse?
 

[VR] Orodruin

[VR] Orodruin
Maggie_Oz said:
Your computer doesn't have a screen? How do you open programs and things ?
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Of course it does. However, that screen is chosen particularly for the task of opening programs and has not seen an upgrade in several gaming computers that have cone and gone. It is certainly not a screen anyone would want to play games on unless they simply do not care in the slightest about visuals. To me, playing Elite is - to a large extent - about visuals. If it wasn’t I would still be playing ASCII based games.
 

Maggie_Oz

Maggie_Oz
Orodruin said:
Of course it does. However, that screen is chosen particularly for the task of opening programs. It is certainly not a screen anyone would want to play games on unless they simply do not care in the slightest about visuals. To me, playing Elite is - to a large extent - about visuals. If it wasn’t I would still be playing ASCII based games.
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Ok so that's a personal choice you've made.
 

Rybodhi

Rybodhi
Getting away from VR I am really really looking forward to Elite Feet!
Playing on a screen this afternoon and I was loven it!
Will invest in TrackIR and am looking forward to the future.
Starting to see things in a positive light...

Officially over the VR Odyssey negativity...

Saying that am still zissed with FD for been so tight lipped all the time but thats no biggy.....
 

[VR] Orodruin

[VR] Orodruin
Maggie_Oz said:
Ok so that's a personal choice you've made.
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A choice that directly contradicts your assertion that all VR players have the choice of gaming on flatscreen without further hardware investment. Could I run the game? Of course I could start it - I have a PC, but a 9” monitor would be sufficient to just run the game. Would it be worth it? No.
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Orodruin said:
Again a fallacy on your part. You certainly keep them coming. In order to make something playable, I would have to invest in a new screen as I currently play games exclusively in VR. So no, you cannot make the assumption that VR players have both setups available to them.
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Bit of a segue but how are you finding that? My games pc is currently booked up to my TV in my man cave but it's something I have thought about (I haven't actually had a pc monitor for over a decade). I would not do it for CV1 it's not high enough res but I was thinking once HP reverb G2 came out of it may actually be practical to ditch the screen all together.
Indeed for me that is the compromise FD should consider IF nausea and issues with locomotion with legs is genuinely their concern. That way the rest of the game plays in proper vr, but go on foot and it's does a hellblade VR like zoom out to a size configurable cinema screen to play in 2D.
 

Maggie_Oz

Maggie_Oz
Orodruin said:
A choice that directly contradicts your assertion that all VR players have the choice of gaming on flatscreen without further hardware investment. Could I run the game? Of course I could start it - I have a PC, but a 9” monitor would be sufficient to just run the game. Would it be worth it? No.
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It doesn't contradict anything, as you say you can play the game
You just choose to want something different and that fine, but no one is forcing that on you.
 

Ethaidan

Ethaidan
StarLightPL said:
As with forums, it's a sample of users. Statistics tell us that samples are representative. There's a whole section of math dedicated to statistics and math couldn't care less about biases - it's just numbers.
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No, that is not even remotely close to true. Maths, itself may not care about bias, but statistics is all about bias - in particular, ensuring that any sample used in a statistical analysis is as free from bias as possible. Only then can a sample be regarded as statistacally relevant and representative of an overall population. An open poll on reddit, specifically designed to make a point (raging at FDev, and inflating the % of VR users) with specific members of a population (VR users) directed to and encouraged to participate is about as unbiased as you might get.

An incredible amount of effort in proper professional polling/statistics goes into finding, vetting, and evaluating sample populations that are as representative as possible of the overall population. You might as well point to a US election survey poll at the RNC and then proclaim that 90% of all Americans support Trump.
 
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